Give me something juicy

  • Havatra@lemmy.zip
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    4 days ago

    We are breeding idiots.

    A lot to unpack here, but the primary reason is that “everyone” survives, is led into adulthood, and encouraged to start a family. From an evolutionary standpoint, we don’t have any sort of filter who gets to live and breed, and no “survival of the fittest”. This is not only about childbirths, but also about who breeds (and raises) children.

    Eugenics is not bad in of itself, but people consider it bad because they fear it will be forced upon them by racist/ableist powers. (Remember, a mother (and father) who chooses to abort if there is something bad unveiled through tests are also doing eugenics.)

    Not saying we haven’t had this “problem” in the past, nor that we have to do something about it. It’s more a statement that we have a lot of idiots around…

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      3 days ago

      “Survival of the fittest” isn’t that only the fittest survive and reproduce–it’s that they reproduce the most successfully, thus passing their genes on more than others do. This has both positive and negative consequences because there’s nothing smart about natural selection.

      It’s also worth noting that what traits are important for survival change. Unfortunately, being a sociopath with no physical or mental fitness could be the most beneficial traits as far as production goes.

      Evolution is neutral.

    • shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
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      people consider it bad because they fear it will be forced upon them by racist/ableist powers

      Yes, because this was normal thinking 150 years ago when eugenics was gaining prominence:

      At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world.

      Charles Darwin * The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex*

      Many people took this as, oh ya we should do that.

    • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
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      3 days ago

      Eugenics isn’t survival of the fittest though. It’s one group arbitrarily deciding whether another group deserves a chance to live.

      I get what you’re trying to say about “suvival of the fittest” but you’re butchering the most basic understanding of that phrase. Survival of the fittest isn’t a choice made by someone or a group of people.

    • Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone
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      3 days ago

      I’m with you, despite knowing it’s seen as wrong.

      A health issue that would have killed you at birth? No worries we have a fix for that. Shame your kid gets it next

    • Smoogs@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      It’s funny cuz Conversely I’m currently idealizing life is not life but a form of hell.

      If you’re under the belief you’re not the idiot to be here then you’re the tourist in idiot territory.

      Or perhaps you Thinking you belong here and that they should die and leave you alone means you’re the demon maintaining hell.

      Additionally I think we’re all idiots. We all have our moments. We all get to die at some point.

        • Smoogs@lemmy.world
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          3 days ago

          Nope. The world is being shat upon by a racist pedophile shitting diapers who was passively voted in. This is hell. I don’t want to know meet the person who is even remotely ok with this.