The Army will now allow recruits to enlist up to age 42 and has removed a waiver requirement for those with a marijuana-related conviction.

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      Get ready for Russia-style meat-wave attacks. We’ll just throw the poor at them until they run out of ammo! It’s genius!

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    I’d rather snort cocaine right in front of the MEPS people and end up in prison than ever fight for this bastard.

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    They’re going to have to really redo their advertising if they’re going to attract stoners. All that advertising is about how you can see the world (and then blew it up) and get free training (in skills that are utterly useless outside of the military) and become a hero (by having your legs blown off).

    All of that sounds like way too much hard work. I just want to do my 8 hours and then go home. Also virtually every civilian job pays better. It’s amazing anyone joins up.

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      That should be a global policy. These old fucks can start fighting their own wars for once in history

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        And Trump will be following Russians lead.

        We lost 58,000 in Vietnam in over 10 years, and less than 5000 in Afghanistan in 20 years. Putin has lost 1.2 million in 4 years.

        Trump is going to fight a war like Putin, because he will see those deaths as a score, and the more people that sacrifice their lives for him, the more important he is in history. People talk about Hitler and Stalin because of how many people they killed, so if he wants to be remembered for all time, he has to get real dictator numbers for his war.

        BTW, when it becomes clear that he doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he is just sending American soldiers to die in an endless meat-grinder war, enlistments will end. Then he’s going to call for a draft, and literally enslave young American men to die for him.

        Running up the war dead because he thinks it makes him look more powerful is typical Trump logic.

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          Fascism is but a cult of death.

          In such a perspective everybody is educated to become a hero. In every mythology the hero is an exceptional being, but in Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death. It is not by chance that a motto of the Falangists was Viva la Muerte (in English it should be translated as “Long Live Death!”). In non-fascist societies, the lay public is told that death is unpleasant but must be faced with dignity; believers are told that it is the painful way to reach a supernatural happiness. By contrast, the Ur-Fascist hero craves heroic death, advertised as the best reward for a heroic life. The Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death.

          https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fascism

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            It’s the old propaganda strategy of making war, and dying in war, GLORIOUS and ROMANTIC.

            No, it’s just stupid, ESPECIALLY this type of war. This isn’t even being done for economic opportunity, which is evil, but at least understandable from a Capitalistic perspective, but this kind of war makes no sense. There is literally no reason or advantage to it. I think it was supposed to make Trump look tough or something, but it’s only made him look stupider - even to his own followers.

            And we haven’t forgotten the Epstein Files, we’ve just added this war to the list of his atrocities to attach to his name for all history.

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              He’s been claiming other presidents would attack Iran when their popularity dipped for the last 15 years. Not surprising he does it as his own tanks from the Epstein shit

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                Conservative presidents have always thought that being a war president cements your place in history. They were throwing that around quite a bit during the GW Bush administration.

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    I wonder if this will bring out all those big macho MAGAs, eager to fight for Dear Leader?

    Yeah. And Neil Breen will win Best Director next year.

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      They’d have to go to military fat camp first, and then enlisted into the crutch brigade, as copied from the current Russian model.

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      Have either of you ever been convicted of a Felony?

      Convicted…? No, no… Never convicted…

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    One of these things is good. Unfortunately, all of it is in service of getting warm bodies to participate in Operation Epstein’s Fury.

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      A draft would be a civil war, especially if they set it at 42.

      Nobody would fucking go, and we’d see ICE agents used to round up anyone “military aged” starting in poverty striken neighborhoods and eventually expanding.

      trump’s dumb enough to try it tho, so we’re probably gonna find out.

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        ICE agents kidnapping and killing people hasn’t started a civil war.

        I highly doubt that a draft would trigger that.

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          I suspect things would get interesting when you piss a shit ton of people off and then give them automatic weapons and explosives… Where do you think “fragging” came from?

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        You know that at very least Hegseth has been walking around with a half chub at the thought of reinstating the draft. We’re talking about invading multiple countries at any given time. All of the strong man dictators that Trump admires are in countries with compulsory military service.Then there’s the timing of the announcement that Barron is ineligible to serve because he’s too tall or some shit, the press secretary refusing to rule out a draft, and now this. I think they are seriously contemplating the possibility of a mandatory draft in the future.

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          Then there’s the timing of the announcement that Barron is ineligible to serve because he’s too tall or some shit

          I had to look that up. Apparently the limit is 6’8", and they claim he’s 6’9". Now, the kid is clearly a tall motherfucker, but how much y’all wanna bet he actually tops out at 6’7"? (6’9" is 205.74cm)

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            He might be five inches taller than trump really is, but that would put him at 6’4"ish.

            Not the unbelievable 6’7" that’s 5 inches taller than trump’s fake height.

            There’s a very real chance trump doesn’t know he lies about his own height so in his orbit everyone adjust so his 6’2" height can be rationalized. It explains why he can’t believe celebrities/athletes whose real (or close) height is well known.

            They dont play trumps adjustment game, so in his head it doesn’t make sense they’re so much bigger.

            When I played sports in college did the opposite when out at bars. Every guy shaved 4-5 inches off our height because we were tall enough someone would ask. And any guy not in on the joke would lose their shit because it looked like they were lying.

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                The joke wasn’t on our friends, it was on any dude that followed a girl over when she’d ask how tall any of us were. Which happened at least once a night at bars when we’d go out as a team.

                We all knew to give the “short height” and when she didn’t believe the first one, shed start asking everyone, getting heights that logically lined up until she’d ask anyone we didn’t know, who would tell her the real height, which sounded like an obvious lie.

                It was very chaotic, but especially for college age guys (at least back then) it really really fucked with people. If someone hears a group of guys is lying about their heights, they come over expecting a bunch of people adding a couple inches and eager to prove them wrong.

                But it was just some casual gaslighting for funsies.

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        Huh, so their logic is draft me, give me a gun, teach me to shoot, and throw a military parade birthday party.

        This is going to be one for the books.

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          Their logic is to draft you, put you in high vis hand-me -downs that have had their previous holes patched up, and put you on the front lines with rocks until his problem solves itself.

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        They will give you some free shit and people will flock like sheep. Or they will just snatch you off the street and instead of aligator Alcatraz it will be boot camp

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      Currently, it’s still voluntary, thankfully.

      But, I wouldn’t be sure considering who we’re dealing with.

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      It’s okay, just made a not so subtle reference to fragging. You’ll might be locked up but you won’t be murdering some innocent child who was born the wrong color!

      That’s my plan at least. Lol but the exasperated kind of lol not like a haha yknow

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      MP’s looking to enforce a draft will need to wear flak vests. The whole thing, including the bits and bobs that infantrymen typically throw away to save weight.

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      I’m all for the draft on one very strict condition; it has to be truly random with no way for rich kids to get mommy and daddy to buy them out of it or into a cushy assignment. When the rich kids have an equal chance of dying in oil wars, there won’t be so many oil wars.

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          I wasn’t really offering it as a solution to the current problem. I’m just saying that I don’t believe the current problem would exist if, for the past 10 years or more, rich kids were candidate fodder for the meat grinder.

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          As a women, I think if men have to, we should have to as well. That said, I also don’t think men should have to in the first place. If you can’t generate enough popular support for your war to get people to volunteer, then your war can get fucked.

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        When the rich kids have an equal chance of dying in oil wars, there won’t be so many oil wars.

        Are you sure? Considering anthropogenic climate change cascades, I highly doubt the rich care about their kids.

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          That’s a fair point, but I would argue that that’s far enough in the future for them to convince themselves it’s not real. Dear little Chet getting shot in the face by Muslims next week is probably harder to ignore.

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        it still wont be random, because will just target areas that dont have rich people, like only black or latin neighborhoods, and not rich ones.