• blinfabian@feddit.nl
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    12 days ago

    linux sucks because i was promsed a cute penguin but instead got some blue triangle???

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          11 days ago

          Yeah there are some, Jolla is another, but I already know I will lose all my banking and payment apps and will end up still having to use an android in addition.

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            11 days ago

            Might be able to sandbox those in android VMs. I can run my banking app in WSL surprisingly. It’s useless there but it does run.

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      12 days ago

      I’ve never owned an iPhone, but it’s not like Android is the land of freedom

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      8 days ago

      I have an iPhone because I don’t want full control. When I had android phones I would fuck with them until their death.

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      12 days ago

      I wouldn’t say it’s bad per se, but getting worse. If they go through with their app developer verification thing then it will definitively cross the threshold from “thin fucking ice” to shit

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        12 days ago

        Android is frustrating with the way it limits you from doing what you want within the os.

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    13 days ago

    “Linux is bad”, because it doesn’t provide have data collection and transfer to shady corporations with large PR umbrellas, out of the box.

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    12 days ago

    Android comes pre-installed on my device, with automatic security updates and manufacturer support for the likely lifetime of the device.

    I’d definitely use a Linux PC if it came out of the box ready to go like that.

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      12 days ago

      Did phone manufacturer finally decide to keep supporting their models after the first year/couple of years? Or did the “likely lifetime” of a smartphone dropped below that in the meantime?

      If anything, my experience with “manufacturer support” on android isn’t particularly stellar, with the only outlier being my current Samsung XCover, which is kinda cheating due to the thing being a rugged phone targeting companies and not the average joe, so the thing is built to last, both hardware and software side.

      On the other hand you do have a couple (maybe even three!) companies that offer linux pre-installed on their machines.

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      12 days ago

      I mean, it doesn’t magically appear on the device. You pay for the installation, it’s just included in the price of the device (with Windows you also pay for the license key, by the way). There are companies that’ll install Linux for you. Hell, pay me $30 and cover shipping, I’ll gladly set you up with, I don’t know, Fedora and even add a timer with notifications that’ll nag you about package updates, just like Android does.

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        12 days ago

        Yeah, I know that, the manufacturer has already installed the OS etc.

        What I want is a warranty and guaranteed manufacturer support, rather than me needing to figure out how to fix it.

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          12 days ago

          Outside of specialized B2B software, I never met a tech rep that would be helpful with an issue. Do you actually have experience where you’d call Google/Apple/Microslop and get help with their software? In Linux world, with many programs I can just go and nag the actual developer of the thing, which often works wonders.