The blockbuster weight loss drug sold as Ozempic and Wegovy [has, on 21 March, gone] generic in countries that are home to 40 percent of the world’s population, significantly lowering the price of a costly medicine that had been largely unaffordable to nearly all but the wealthiest people. On Saturday, Novo Nordisk, the company that until now has had a monopoly on selling the drug, will lose patent protection in several of the world’s most populous countries. The first generic versions are expected to arrive in India as soon as this weekend. In the coming months, the generics are also expected to become available in China, Canada, Brazil, Turkey and South Africa.
What would you say to someone who weighed about 28.5 stone, suffers with chronic lower back pain that limits movement, inflammation causing limited range of motion caused by the excessive weight, knee problems which limit ability to climb stairs and do things like squats or stand from kneeling or from the floor who eats uncontrollably to get a dopemine fix because they cant get adhd medication because of NHS wait times and lack of in person clinics, which are needed due to hypertension and irregularities on ana ECG and doesnt self medicate with weed anymore due to legality l, access and health issues.
Can’t exercise effectively due to weight, can’t lose weight to get help with excessive eating due to inability to exercise effectively. Catch 22. I am fucked.
Do i not qualify as having a legitimate reason to take weightloss medication to get me into a place where i can move properly. My quality of life is shit and i have done everything to try to fix it. I have an exercise bike but cant use it for long due to pain in my knees and shins, started swimming to ease the load on my knees but couldnt get any room in my local pool to exercise due to lane swimmers, all the dedicated classes take place whilst i am in work or too close to my finishing times. I need to travel 40 minutes to a pool that does a class at the right time for me. Have kids and house to help with. I took a weightloss course with NHS but lost nothing because it was a pile of crap course that didnt adress the issues people have with weight and only told us all what we already knew and offered a single 40 minute class a week doing low impact exercises in 2 minute bursts.
I started taking mounjaro which i pay out of my arse for, and i have lost 2 stone so far. On track to lose even more. Starting to exercise again. Feel better overall. Cardio is better, can walk further than 30 metres without needing to sit down. Back pain is still here but hopefully will ease off.
Ive never been this big in my life, always a bit chunky (like 14-16 stone in my teens to early 30s) stopped smoking and piled it on over a year.
Its not so black and white.
I’d question your mental health.
Ok so putting aside the fact that i talked about having ADHD and it being a big contributor to my eating habits. I list a bunch of physical health problems and how they dorectly impact my ability to lose weight and you question my mental health?
I think its clear that in terms of mental health, you are the one with problems. You are narrow minded, you have a bit of a god complex based on your other comments in this thread, you are arrogant and seemingly ignorant to all of it. What kind of person does it take to give a bad opinion, have that opinion challenged with genuinely good points but still turn around and “no you” it back to me?
The only thing your comment fails to address is everything i said. Its clearly unintelligent, backing down, goalpost moving trash.
everything I want to say to you will be removed
exactly. if that’s your impulse… you probably need some better mental health habits and emotional regulation.
I have my own health problems. I am not here blasting other people about them and how horrible and unfair my life is because of them… why is that you think?
because you don’t care for other people but will whine about other people not caring enough to lose weight
nobody is here “blasting” you they are speaking from their own experience with weight loss and all you had to say was to question their mental health
yeah i lack emotional regulation, like that’s a thing for me and people with my condition, at least i know my faults
I don’t care for random internet strangers and people in the vague abstract mass of humanity, yeah. It’s fucking weird that anyone thinks that is legitimate caring. It isn’t. It’s just a proxy for grand standing and ego-stroking.
I don’t care about their experience. It has no impact on what is a massive public health issue. The world is not about them and their individual experiences. And their inability to see usually means they are a egotistical nutjob who thinks everything is about themselves and their personal feelings… which actually is the type of people who give a shit about nobody but themselves.
Randomly going into vivid detail abut all your personal problems to vent at some stranger you feel has aggrieved you in a public space is insane and hostile behavior. I’m sure if I randomly went up to you and started screaming at you about my personal health issues, you’d find that very offputting and offensive and you’d wonder if I was off my meds.
it’s weird that you think that is just egostroking, that’s where we differ
and you would be amazed by town hall meetings! it is exactly as you said! random people you don’t know come in a public space to share their grievances and complains
but hey, if you don’t care about their experience then why should i care about anything you say? im out!
or, perhaps, they wanted to show you a different perspective you do not know without aggression
I’ve met tons of whiny people my entire life who write essays about their problems. I don’t need to hear from more of them. I understand lemmy is full to the brim with them though, who have delusions of grandeur because they PC game with linux or something, and yet they can’t seem to struggle with basic adult tasks. weird how that works.
when it comes to making aggressive assumptions about what you read, it is your responsibility to pull yourself up by the glasses.
you do realize he mentions ADHD? i’m sure you don’t mean to but your comment implies the mentally ill can just pull themselves up by their bootstraps
Then treat it.
I am more than familiar with people like him. I have had relationships with people who made endless excuses, and refused to manage their conditions, and then of course, told me it was my fault. As if I was supposed to magically cure them of all their mental and physical issues… that they actively embraced and enhanced by poor habits and recreational drug use.
When it comes to mental and physical health, yes you do have to pull yourself up. Nobody can do it for you. Nobody can fix my health problems for me. It’s my responsibility to manage them. Or I suppose I could just give up, and be a twat about it and incessantly whine to whomever will listen to my self-imposed misery. And go around taking random internet comments as personal attacks on myself… lol
Read my post properly and you might see why treating it is a problem.
You need to stop ignoring the bits that counter your argument because it is making you look ignorant.
And i can’t get over that whole point you are trying to make about people (me in this case) making it all about themselves when you are doing exactly that. You are imposing your narrowminded and ignorant view poi t on everyone else. Hilariously, no one agrees. You are on your own on this one.
Please do us all a favour. Read and critically analyse this comment thread. Be self critical, look at it from a view point that is not your own. And understand that my offering a personal anecdote, in contrary to your view is not “an attack” it is not me taking your nonsense as a personal attack on me. It is just me trying to introduce some nuance. Something you may not know.
Isnt the point of these message boards to have discussions with real people from around the world? Are you really on a social media platform pretending you don’t care what other people think?
Wild that mate…
don’t worry nobody here is taking anything as a personal attack, you just repeat ableist rhetoric that is used to attack anyone with a handicap and i want to make that clear for anybody else reading it
be more of a .ml user. are you a tankie too? you think Chinese communism is going to magically improve your personal problems too?
I think they meant it.