I know I’ll probably be downvoted for saying this, but there are a lot of really good managers out there. None of them, however, have a degree in business.
Upper management and middle management are the same picture.
All members of management don’t do the actual work and the only reason for their existence is to try to get the actual workers to do more stuff for less money.
So even though we all know that their jobs would be one of the easiest to replace with an LLM, what will happen is management will attempt to replace as many workers with LLMs to justify their “more for less” existence.
I have observed a strong correlation between managers whose emails are now obviously written by AI and those who have significant shortcomings.
middle and upper management and llm are incompetent, but llm would at least not have an ego about it
Middle management seems like exactly the kind of jobs that LLMs could actually replace and do a good job at.
We individual contributors do the actual creative work and make gears of industry turn.
The owners at the top will want to stay rich and stay in control because obviously being rich means they are “one of the good ones”
All the layers of hierarchy in between? Their main functions are to filter all the information about their department to send up the chain, or to take the marching orders from above and fill in the details for everybody below them. With some human margin of error. And that’s the best case scenario is somebody who actually does their job and does it well.
Filtering data into summaries, generating new data from simple high-level descriptions, and not doing it “correctly” or “optimally” but “believably?” I think we found the job LLMs were invented to replace!!
(in reality, I’d much rather see $100,000 salaries go to 100,000 human managers rather than the same $10 Billion be split between tech giants and shareholders, but it’s still funny)
Looking forward to when A.I. will replace CEOs
LLMs can easily replace managers and execs over anybody else. Honestly, the first things LLMs replace are scammers. Most execs are scammers too.
Managers would never fire themselves, though.
When two men in business always agree, one of them is unnecessary.
This quote has been attributed to many different people and it apllies here. You don’t need a manager that always agrees with AI
No way imagine your boss being an LLM 😭 truly nightmare fuel
Can go the other way too:
“Here is that report you wanted”
“Amazing work! You bring such a unique perspective and you personal style can really be felt!”
At least ot’s better than some managers
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.13548
LLMs respond like a sycophant because that’s what CEOs expect. They expect to be surrounded by Yes Men and people who compliment them before they give feedback. That’s why before you get an answer for a question, some LLMs will sometimes say “that’s a great question.”
You’ll notice the same thing in Trump’s cabinet. No one answers him directly, they provide him with a compliment before they give a response.
You mean Trump’s Cabinet is actually working with LLMs ??
On a serious note, do you know of any community on lemmy where we can express our rants against Trump ???
That’s interesting…
I tried a local LLM, & it was sooo … ideological-against-objectivity ( made me want to puke ) AND so sycophantic, the mixture made me unwilling to tolerate the damn thing on my machine.
I hadn’t understood that it was doing a mixture of ideological-&-sycophantic, but yes, that absolutely-was a dimension in what it was doing…
Thank you for identifying that current in them…
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This feels more like a shower rant than a shower thought…
Either way, I’m here for it
Sometimes I even sing…
Honestly most of the posts in this community don’t really fit the community
Welcome to the daily “screaming into hot water”-podcast.
My SO boss is soo into LLM and I swear this bloke only fights and say the things for worst outcome of the department. He caves on stuff that he should have died on the hill but something trivial not even worth an ok he will drag out with hell fire.
I’d still rather have the useless fuckwit manager because at least they’re some form of human vs a dumbass chatbot.
I have this exaxt situation. Vp runs literally 100% of his thoughts through a chatbot, which has conviced him that all his SMEs that actually do things are idiots. Hes slightly less of an idiot than the rest of his exectuve cohort, and has thus convinced all of them that we are idiots too.
Not better at all. The chatbot will not consistently fight you when you tell it that its wrong. The chatbot will not relent after being overwhelmed with actual data, then rszurfacd the idea again in 6 weeks, then relent again, then try again in 4 weeks, on and on. I have one project that haa been battered back 5 times now, imcludong habing staff quit and hiring new people that agreed it could not be done, and i know its still not over.
Have you tried to choke out an LLM? Because I have. It wasn’t easy.
Depends on how malicious the manager is
Gotta start at the top
That’s obvious to everyone except OP, who wants to start one ring above workers somehow
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Zero idea what any of that means…
My point was “managers” aren’t “the top” they’re literally one level above the bottom
And anything they’re tell the bottom ring to do, is because that’s what they were told to say.
I seem to have overestimated people’s work experience or critical thinking tho, loads of people seem to think of front line managers as “the boss”.









