Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a US representative, said on Wednesday that she will oppose any future US military aid to Israel, including for defensive systems.
In a statement on social media, Ocasio-Cortez said that Israel was fully capable of funding “Iron Dome and other defensive systems”, and that “consistent with my voting record to date, I will not support Congress sending more taxpayer dollars and military aid to a government that consistently ignores international law and US law”.
Her remarks on Wednesday follow reports that she pledged to oppose any future military aid to Israel during a New York City Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) forum on Tuesday evening.
“Our allies who need our military aid must understand that we will provide it consistent with the Leahy amendment and the foreign assistance act”, Ocasio-Cortez added, referring to a law which prohibits the US from providing military support to army units that violate human rights.
According to City & State, which obtained a partial recording of the DSA forum, Ocasio-Cortez told members: “I have not once ever voted to authorize funding to Israel, and I will never,” adding that “the Israeli government should be able to finance their own weapons if they seek to arm themselves.”
Fuck yeah, hopefully AOC starts a fuck aid to Israel trend
Better late than never, but the left coalition of the party could have done this 75,000 Palestinians ago.
accurate estimate range about 300000 Palestinians. or about 1/6th
“I have not once ever voted to authorize funding to Israel, and I will never,”
She has though: https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024128, https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2023681, https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202428
It’s a much better track record than pretty much anyone else but this article and post is a pretty blatant attempt at reputation laundering.
Do y’all really fall for this so easily?
Which one of these you linked is providing funding to Israel?
In order:
H.R.5917
This bill extends the authority of the President to impose sanctions on foreign persons using human shields through 2030 and requires the President to impose such sanctions on each foreign person determined to be a member of Palestine Islamic Jihad and orders, controls, or otherwise directs the use of human shields. Currently, such sanctions are (1) required for users of human shields who are members of Hamas or Hezbollah or supporters of those groups, and (2) authorized for other users of human shields.
The President must also determine if a person named in certain congressional requests meets the criteria for such sanctions and report on whether the President intends to impose sanctions on that person.
Additionally, the Department of Defense must report to Congress on the implications of the use of human shields by Hamas, Hezbollah, and Palestine Islamic Jihad.
H.R.5961
This bill requires the President to impose property-blocking sanctions on foreign financial institutions and international financial institutions that process, participate in, or facilitate a transaction involving certain Iranian funds (namely, the approximately $6 billion of Iranian funds that the Biden administration permitted to be transferred from restricted accounts in South Korea to restricted accounts in Qatar to facilitate the release of five U.S. citizens detained in Iran).
H.R.6679
This bill imposes immigration-related penalties on certain non-U.S. nationals (aliens under federal law) who are involved with terrorism or attacks against Israel.
Under this bill, members of Palestinian Islamic Jihad or Hamas or who participated in or otherwise facilitated the October 7, 2023, attacks on Israel may not be admitted into the United States.
The bill also expands an existing admissions bar against officers, representatives, and spokespersons of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO). Under this bill, all PLO members are barred from admission into the United States.
The bill also prohibits any non-U.S. national who participated in or otherwise facilitated the October 7, 2023, attacks from seeking any immigration-related relief or protections, including (1) protection from being deported to a country where the individual’s life or freedom would be threatened, or (2) asylum in the United States.
Summaries are generally misleading.
Full text for H.R.5917: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/5917/text where it outlines the modifications to public law 115-348 which according to Sec. 3.d authorizes usage of the IEEPA to enforce sanctions.
Israel then directly receives defense spending to enforce those sanctions as well as indirectly being funded via any seized assets that are found in violation of those sanctions as “reperations”. Here’s an example of a $500Mil funding source.
H.R.5961 uses essentially the same mechanism but targets Iran specifically redirecting a large chunk of the $6B mentioned towards Israel.
You are correct that H.R.6679 isn’t about funding, but I still felt it was important to include.
Thank you!
H.R.4016, the Department of Defense Appropriations Act
Sec. 8067. Of the amounts appropriated in this Act under the headings “Procurement, Defense-Wide” and “Research, Development, Test and Evaluation, Defense-Wide”, $500,000,000 shall be for the Israeli Cooperative Programs: Provided, That of this amount, $60,000,000 shall be for the Secretary of Defense to provide to the Government of Israel for the procurement of the Iron Dome defense system to counter short-range rocket threats, subject to the U.S.-Israel Iron Dome Procurement Agreement; $127,000,000 shall be for the Short Range Ballistic Missile Defense (SRBMD) program, including cruise missile defense research and development under the SRBMD program; $40,000,000 shall be for co-production activities of SRBMD systems in the United States and in Israel to meet Israel’s defense requirements consistent with each nation’s laws, regulations, and procedures, subject to the U.S.-Israeli co-production agreement for SRBMD; $100,000,000 shall be for an upper-tier component to the Israeli Missile Defense Architecture, of which $100,000,000 shall be for co-production activities of Arrow 3 Upper Tier systems in the United States and in Israel to meet Israel’s defense requirements consistent with each nation’s laws, regulations, and procedures, subject to the U.S.-Israeli co-production agreement for Arrow 3 Upper Tier; and $173,000,000 shall be for the Arrow System Improvement Program including development of a long range, ground and airborne, detection suite.
This is what AOC voted on in regard to Israel and the Iron Dome.
MTG had offered an amendment that would cut the funding for Israeli defense and AOC voted against it, allowing the funds to remain in the bill.
Thank you!
Go further than that, claw back our tax money to pay for healthcare dammit
Give em a bill and charge interest every year.
If they don’t pay, most of the global economy still runs thru NYC, if we sanction their leaders and oligarchs instead of random ass “settlers” who don’t even have a bank account, we could apply real pressure for their government to pay.
Yep, let’s start playing Hard Ball. Stop giving breaks to economic predators and parasites.
Israel does not owe the US for weapons, because they are gifts. The nominally loans are immediately forgiven by state dept.
Yeah but it is what the US says it is. We could just state otherwise, you owe us, fuck you pay us. Not going to happen as they have our politicians compromised, with the CIA’s help it appears. How about some fucking court martials for helping foreign governments compromise our politicians? Death penalty.
forgiving a loan is a permanent contract. You can validly say that everyone who previously cancelled loans were traitorous scum, as a basis for conditions for future sales to Israel, and seizing assets of all “supposed Americans” of those who bribed the traitorous scum as restitution. But cancelled loans themselves are without legal restitution.
I prefer seizing the $10T of Zionazi agents and funding of Zionazi first rule over America to death penalties.
Idk what you are talking about. I said the US officials that helped compromise our citizens for a foreign country are traitors. You have a problem with that?
As far as forgiving loans, Israel wasn’t loaned anything, we gave it to them, that’s the whole point here. But yes, we have cancelled loans before, including in the Magna Carta
As far as forgiving loans, Israel wasn’t loaned anything, we gave it to them,
The contractual shenanigans of gifting weapons to Israel is that they are sold with a loan. The state department immediately forgives the loan.
the US officials that helped compromise our citizens for a foreign country are traitors.
I agree. I prefer seizing their and their donors wealth instead of death penalty.
They should owe though. It’s disgusting that we continue to gift weapons for a genocide while we refuse to fund things like universal healthcare here at home.
Based
Sombody guard her because Mosad already is planing to eliminate her.
Yeah I was about to say damn what a shame she was so young.
Support and protect this person and leaders like them. Fight for them.
I want to VOTE for her! Oh wait, I already do! Now want to vote for her for Senate (don’t let the door clobber you in the ass on the way out Schmuckie-boy!), and then President!
I mean… I would vote for her (to be POTUS) too, since I’m very much a democratic socialist. Unfortunately her chances of actually being the Democrat nominee are basically zero. And even if she did get that far, she would lose in the same way Kamala and Hillary did. Fence sitters and centrists seem incapable of voting for a woman. 🤷♂️
I would be elated to be proven wrong! Please, Universe! Prove me wrong on this!
Fence sitters and centrists seem incapable of voting for a woman.
It’s really disingenuous to boil it all down to a gender war. Neither Clinton nor Harris ran good campaigns.
Both were also victims of various forms of election manipulation and fraud, although Hillary’s campaign was especially godawful.
Israel should be disarmed.
Hey, it looks like you’re trying to write Destroyed.
It would force them to negotiate diplomaticly and lead to much more peace in the middle east
She was going to vote against it originally. Then supposedly Pelosi convinced her to change her vote. So she voted present.
It’s a difficult spot to be in, given that much of her support relies on the zionists in New York like Schumer, etc in her party… Donors too…
Im in her district. She doenst need that support. She is perfectly safe here.
Yeah it must be SOOO difficult to sacrifice tens of thousands of innocent civilians so that she can stay in power and not make her colleagues uncomfortable. Give me a break. She’s an evil Zio neolib like the rest of the Democratic Party. Crocodile tears
Oh, okay lol
She’s an evil Zio neolib like the rest of the Democratic Party. Crocodile tears
That’s literally MAGA speak with different slurs, lol
Her continued political career depended on clearing that up.
Problem is all of us on the left will not forget her past record and her choices time and time again to side with the status quo, Israel, and the imperialist, capitalist Democratic Party.
i agree. she has been a let down the past few years. she’s mucher better than most liberals, but she still has bent the knee to Israel in the past when her voice mattered
would be nice to do palestinian aid and recognize its not a forgone conclusion that it be annexed and if we for some reason do give aid lets at least limit weaponry we might give them and hey lets work to keep aid channels open to palestine. you know. all the stuff we were doing until 2025.
all the stuff we were doing until 2025.
Literally what? This is all stuff Democrats (including AOC herself) were flamed for not doing until 2025.
nope they were flamed for not doing more. we had limits on weapons and getting aid to isreal was a fight even though it got through. there was aid to plestine. we friggen made a dock to get around israel blockading areas. peoples memories are either miniscule or they edit them as it goes by.
This is historical revisionism.
we had limits on weapons
Literally one paused shipment. Big fucking deal.
getting aid to isreal was a fight even though it got through
The overwhelming majority regularly voting yes is not my idea of a fight.
there was aid to plestine.
There was aid during Trump’s term too. In both cases it was Israel dictating how much aid got through.
we friggen made a dock to get around israel blockading areas
A useless dock that was criticized for being useless the moment it was announcement and eventually was used by the IDF.
its not revisionist. the limits where on types and size of weapons. your reply shows it exactly. it was not good enough so lets just choose worse. before trump we were trying but now its just israel calling the shots. we friggin attacked iran. jeez just a bit after he took office the plans for the west bank as a vacation destination were thrown up. I just don’t get folks that can’t tell the difference between better and worse.
the limits where on types and size of weapons.
There were no limits other than a pause on one shipment of 2000 pound bombs. That is almost literally nothing.
before trump we were trying
Your thoughts and prayers don’t matter to the Palestinians Israel was starving to death.
Israel was always calling the shots with regards to Palestine; Trump is just more blatant about it. He’s also worse on Iran, but that’s a completely different conversation.
it was not good enough so lets just choose worse
That doesn’t have fucking anything with what we’re talking about. You made a claim about Democrats; you don’t get to deflect by talking about Republicans.
its completely what we are talking about. perfect being the enemy of good. The use of pause is pretty disengenous. yes it was paused until 2025 when trump took office which is what stopped the pause. your whole middle section again shows you can’t tell the difference between better and worse. I would never want you “working” to help me. this reminds me so much of obama care. that half a loaf has made things a bit better for me than the no loaf some people seem to prefer. don’t get me wrong I want the whole loaf but refusing to let anyone get the half to make a moral stand is not helping them.
AOC suddenly jumping out a window in 1,2,3…
meanwhile tankies are calling her (and me) a Zionist for saying the Iron Dome is not just used for protecting military assets and has protected civilians before 🙄
The problem is protection in this case also means protection from the consequences of their actions. As shit as it may sound there’s an active incentive to not causing problems when getting a city block leveled is a potential risk, the same thing can be said for the US which is protected by its relative remoteness from its foes.
So the Iron Dome isn’t just a defensive measure, it’s an emboldening one since it protects Israel from its consequences.
yes, I agree with this point - maybe not to the point of saying we should dismantle the Iron Dome from protecting civilians, but you are right that the Iron Dome acts as a kind of enabler - providing psychological safety to Israelis that undermines political will to end and avoid conflict.
But I’m not sure the civilians are necessarily the best targets in the first place - there have been massive protests against the current government, and I’m not sure we should really consider Israel a particularly democratic state.
Also, Israel has been genocidal for many decades now, including through decades under which many Israelis had to take cover under bomb shelters, so the Iron Dome is probably not the most relevant factor in whether Israel continues on its path.
I feel that the distinction between then and now is that the first generation of Israelis generally did have a reason to grit it out, a lot of them went through far worse than some bombing raids. But now only the youngest of them remain and even then they’re ancient, the majority of modern Israelis would most likely not like having to stick it out in a bunker due to their government being assholes.
But I’ll also admit my bias that I don’t think Israel should exist, the Arabs should’ve been allowed to level it decades ago. So my overall prevailing opinion on Israel is a vague sense of fuck it who cares blockade them and let em rot. So my opinion on any interaction with them is pretty much tainted by that constantly, meaning I’d only approve of the Iron Dome if they completely dearmed in totality and even then I may not care.
Point is I don’t think the Israelis should be traded with let alone given aid.
I agree the current state of Israel is illegal and shouldn’t exist, but political positions like this are separate from my view that most civilians are just normal folks and shouldn’t bear the primary burden - generally wars should be fought targeting military targets, not targeting civilians. I understand that’s a bit complicated when the conflict is asymmetric and one side is not a military as much as a guerilla resistance, their tactics do rely more on using terror to pressure political solutions in their favor.
But yeah, I agree with not funding Israel ✅ The US doesn’t have a special obligation to fund Israel, even if they have been a useful “attack dog” in the Middle East for us, I don’t think US intervention in pretty much most cases is helpful - the US is a big part of why Israel gets away with their crimes and is an unchecked genocidal, racist state.
The thing is that the Israelis don’t give a fuck about civilians and I am a firm believer in the golden rule even when it does bite me in the ass. So if they don’t give a fuck then neither should we, they want to do terroristic bombing campaigns then fine their civilians are valid now as well. You reap what you sow and all that.
But yeah we seem to agree at like 90 percent or so, it’s just where we draw the line and what we consider to be morally acceptable. You value civilians and I refuse to due to Israel not valuing them, though I would exterminate every settler community with the vigor of the US army in Vietnam but that’s more of a fuck them in particular thing.
You mean the massive protests supporting the right to rape Palestinians?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_hostage_deal_protests
I was talking about the massive protests against the gov’t handling of the post-October “war” in favor of a ceasefire and accepting a hostage deal
A key part of the protest movement, their demands are;
- Immediate release of all hostages, since their holding is contrary to international law and defined as a war crime and a crime against humanity.
- Immediate opening of a humanitarian corridor to supply medicines and necessary equipment to the chronically ill and injured and examination of all hostages by a doctor.
- Intervention and assistance of the leaders of the neighboring countries in favor of the immediate release of the kidnapped hostages.
There are no more hostages being held at this point.
right, these protests happened in the past:
On 1 September 2024, following the discovery of six hostages killed in the Gaza Strip, protest organizations declared a nationwide strike and day of demonstrations, with more than 500,000 people participating across Israel and abroad to demand a hostage deal.
A subsequent strike was announced on 17 August 2025, drawing hundreds of thousands of demonstrators.
Demonstrating to get hostages back is not the same as demonstrating to stop the genocide.
By definition, a Zionist is anyone who supports the development and protection of a Jewish nation in Occupied Palestine at the expense of Palestinian lives, land, and sovereignty. Any degree of that is Zionism. You are not an anti-Zionist if you support the development and protection of a Jewish nation on stolen, Palestinian land. Anti-Zionism isn’t a big tent kind of club. AOC, Mamdani, Bernie, and anyone else who supports the continued colonization of Occupied Palestine are Zionists.
Lay off defending this bullshit right now bro.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a US representative, said on Wednesday that she will oppose any future US military aid to Israel, including for defensive systems.
I’m an anti-Zionist, I’m going to continue defending not funding Israel, mostly because they are an illegal occupation with decades of history violating international laws and because they are genocidal and actively promoting racist and illegal settler-colonialism.
So no, I’m not going to stop defending my anti-Zionism, thank you.
You are talking up the iron dome which is what we are talking about and you fucking know it.
in what sense am I “talking up” the Iron Dome? the closest thing to this is that I don’t agree with the tankie dogma that the Iron Dome only protects military assets … the Iron Dome clearly protects Israeli citizens as well, and that fact doesn’t necessarily change much - in fact, I also criticized the Iron Dome’s role in protecting citizens as a kind of “enabler”, the safety it provides undermines political will to end and avoid conflicts (not that I want civilians to be treated as valid targets, but the Iron Dome does have problematic consequences this way).
If you don’t want to be thoughtful or read my comments in good faith, and you’re primed to conclude I’m defending Israel regardless, I don’t really care - you don’t have to read my comments, I’m not here to convince anyone of anything and I don’t need to convince you of my anti-Zionism; I’m happy to block you and move on with my life.
meanwhile tankies are calling her (and me) a Zionist for saying** the Iron Dome is not just used for protecting military assets and has protected civilians before** 🙄
that’s right folks, you’re a Zionist if your anti-Zionism doesn’t ignore facts enough, I guess 🤷♀️
To be fair, this is your parent comment and there’s not much to be thoughtful about until your later comments.
that’s fair enough based on just that one comment (maybe I’m just angry from previous interactions in which I have been accused of being a Zionist, banned, and then having what I felt was a reasonable examination of the facts deleted - not been the comfiest day for me)
maybe I just need to step away, it’s been a bad mental health day for me anyway
Hey that’s fair. I’ve had days where I needed to step away from the keyboard because I was getting too lost in going back and forth as well.
You and your mental health is more important than an internet debate :)
Thoughtful, ha ha. I have plenty of thoughts I can assure you, and Israel being protected from retribution from their abuses of the others is one of them. Israel is the Devil. Their population is fucked in the head, and as such, is the devil incarnate, metaphorically speaking. Literally they are Nazis.
last time i posted statistical facts about Israel from wikipedia my comments got removed from being pro-Zionist and antisemitic.
i love it.
Like what?
Seems you’ll be waiting a long time for those facts to show up. :/
“facts”
Shaming him into silence works just as well for me :)
Good for you. :)
This is a play on some of computer brand logo (I think) that I can’t remember. Someone please tell me what this is.
They’re an actual company. They make monitors.
Thank you
Only after Ana Kasparian called Lyin’ Zion AOC out on her lies on twitter. And love how she is bringing up the Leahy amendment now when she was fucking ride or die for Biden and Kamala despite the fact that they violated the Leahy amendment AND other US laws AND international law🙄 She’s a neolib Zio grifter whose sole purpose is to put a cap on leftward movement in the Democratic Party and their base🤮
