Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a US representative, said on Wednesday that she will oppose any future US military aid to Israel, including for defensive systems.
In a statement on social media, Ocasio-Cortez said that Israel was fully capable of funding “Iron Dome and other defensive systems”, and that “consistent with my voting record to date, I will not support Congress sending more taxpayer dollars and military aid to a government that consistently ignores international law and US law”.
Her remarks on Wednesday follow reports that she pledged to oppose any future military aid to Israel during a New York City Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) forum on Tuesday evening.
“Our allies who need our military aid must understand that we will provide it consistent with the Leahy amendment and the foreign assistance act”, Ocasio-Cortez added, referring to a law which prohibits the US from providing military support to army units that violate human rights.
According to City & State, which obtained a partial recording of the DSA forum, Ocasio-Cortez told members: “I have not once ever voted to authorize funding to Israel, and I will never,” adding that “the Israeli government should be able to finance their own weapons if they seek to arm themselves.”
Its not something you get to doubt. Its just a thing that happened. I guess you don’t follow politics.
So you don’t know what a word/ concept means, and your position on the matter starts by doubting the thing exists. Telling.
I provided a link. Click it. Its not even text, you can just listen.
I guess you mean because MTG was anti-Israel first? Not because of the genocide, but because she’s a white supremacist anti-Semite? Yay MTG
I honestly don’t care why our representatives do what they do, I care about the material impact of the legislation they pass.
Example: If a Quiverfull MAGA crazy decides we need to fund childcare because women are just baby machines and childcare means they have more utilities to fight the “white genocide”. Fine. It’s fucking gross but let’s get childcare in place and move to the next issue. All we have to do is make sure it applies to everyone equally.
This is how you get stuff done.
The difference is I’m not looking to someone like MTG to lead, so the fact that her abhorrent methodology to arrive at the correct outcome is a canary in the coal mine compared to AOC who I am looking to lead based on moral convictions to fight difficult fights when needed.
Well she had her come-to-white-Jesus moment at the same time as she was resigning, so she’s not passing any legislation for you
Why are you talking at me like I support her?
Because to Blue MAGA, any criticism of a Democrat makes you the same as a conservative.
True horseshoe conisours.
I can’t speak for the person you are replying to, but I know that I’m constantly critical of the Democratic party. I get called “BlueMAGA” for saying people are stupid for sitting out in 2024 instead of voting for Kamala. It’s bullshit.
It’s a thought-terminating cliche. It doesn’t have any actual meaning, so they just use it as a cudgel to end discussion whenever anyone pushes back against their vapid bullshit.
I find that when people are throwing those accusations around - not voting for Kamala - it tends to be baseless and during a discussion where a leftist is being critical of Democrats. I know a lot of leftists did hold their nose and vote for Harris, but Dems and liberals aren’t keen on acknowledging that because they want to blame leftists for Harris’ terrible presidential campaign and loss.
Blue MAGA absolutely has meaning. It is blind sovereignty to establishment Dems and capitalism.
Stop trying to make fetch happen
Blue MAGA has been a term tossed around for a hot minute.
The phrase is old enough to start having sleep overs.
Hey I found the blueMaggot
Okay that’s just a cope. MTG was pro-Israel until 2025 while also being a raging antisemite; tying her current anti-Israel position to her antisemitism rather than political opportunism is, as I said, a cope to distract from AOC’s failure to do the same.
AOC included, but overall this criticism best applies to the overall Democratic party. In the game of politics, despite of what we know about MTG, yes, she outflanked the Democratic party on the genocidal Israel issue.
jfc, like, click the fucking link. Just click the fucking link. Its queued to the time stamp you need to be reminded of what happened regarding these votes. Its right fucking there. Just click it.
I can’t help people not knowing or remember what happened during house debates in 2021. I’m sorry if your memory isn’t good enough to remember what happened in the house four years ago. She switched her vote from No to Present in a 2021 package for funding Israel’s Iron Dome. She also voted for the resolution which redefined criticism of Israel as anti-antisemitism. Even later she voted against an amendment (led by MTG) to defund Israels Iron Dome. That last one specifically was her getting outflanked by MTG, because later, AOC goes on to vote against the entire bill.
This is how AOC justified it at the time:
This ends up being a completely unforced error since she went on to vote against the entire bill. Instead of taking a strong stance and being on the right side of an issue out the gate, she comes out as calculating, both sides, and then ultimately votes against when it wouldn’t stop it anyways.
Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib, Summer lee: They didn’t make those mistakes. AOC is pivoting, which is good. AOC was not good in acting as part of a unified front against the funding of a zionist genocide.
Say what you want about MTG, but she’s staying ahead of the messaging these days.
That’s easy to do when you’re full of shit
Again, she’s full of shit, but she did outflank AOC on this issue.
Feel free to explain how
The Dems are still clutching onto their AIPAC funds, aren’t they? Still fervently defending and funding Israel?
AOC is only now pivoting to the correct position. MTG got there before her.
So are Republicans. So why is AOC responsible for all Dems, but MTG isn’t responsible for all Republicans?
The Republicans will never stop supporting Israel and their genocidal ways. The Democrats like to pretend they aren’t as bad as Republicans while doing the same shit.
MTG was on the right messaging about Israel before AOC was. Period. That’s all I was pointing out to you, but apparently that’s difficult for you to understand.
Oh for fuck sake. So now we’ve got a bunch of people simultaneously talking down AOC for failing a purity test, and praising MTG? The fuck is wrong with you people?
No, I am praising AOC for finally getting her messaging right and acknowledging that even MTG got there before AOC did.
This is so typically you, zero explanation of what you mean, just more bullshit.
WTF? How was AOC flanked by MTG? That’s not a concept. You are absolutely useless to debate, it always leads nowhere with you.
This is outright false, there is no link in the post I responded to, also who the fuck would want to listen to an audio link for a simple point? A point you never care to substantiate, apart from some broad statement, that to me seems absolutely false and moronic.
The link is further up. Here it is again: https://youtu.be/pfECtut0STg?t=250
I’ve done it no fewer than 4 times in this thread. Dig around. AOC’s own words validates my claim. Its a good thing she’s changed, which is what this article was about, but she had a wrong position to begin with. And yes, MTG did outflank her on this, which is a strike against AOC’s ability to read the room. At the time, it came across as calculating and conniving. Even more strongly now.
Its a good thing AOC pivoted to this stance, but its a good pivot, if late and show poor political instincts.
This has zero bearing on your claim that MTG outflanked democrats and AOC, it’s like you are switching to a completely different debate.
Yes I agree AOC was late in realizing how bad Israel is, and has been for a long time, like in decades. But at least she and other Democrats are beginning to wake up.
Also to the defense of AOC, what she supported was a defensive system.
You shouldn’t be defending this act of hers. She was wrong when she supported it, and defending her is wrong now. If you are commenting or engaging in politics just to be a standard bearer or water carrier, you should disengage from the process because you do real damage in doing so.
No, it doesn’t, because its extremely relevant to AOC’s ability to form and execute on a political calculus. AOC getting outflanked by MTG isn’t up for debate, its just a thing that happened. Its quite literally the article we’re reading, that AOC has now adopted the stance that MTG outflanked her with, the unilateral disarmament of Israel. AOC shouldn’t have allowed MTG to get there first; it speaks to AOC’s questionable political instincts. If AOC is gunning for the top slot, she needs to get to the right position first, not later than someone like MTG.