More Americans say they think former President Trump will beat President Biden if they are their parties’ respective nominees for president, according to a new poll by The Economist/YouGov. Asked i…
In the primaries maybe, in the general you have 2 options, voting anything else increases the chance of a trump win. Which is objectively worse for everyone.
Hah, thanks, but the raw truth of it is that it’s probably too late in the cycle for a third-party candidate with an actual chance to emerge (and I don’t know who the hell would be a popular third party candidate in this environment). In a two-party system like our’s, you either have to win a primary of one of the two parties (which, unfortunately, will be one of the two octogenarians), or hit the ground fucking running like Ross Perot, who came out swinging at 30%+ in polling early in the year.
Unfortunately, as it stands now, with Trump’s supporters lockstep behind him, most third-party protest votes are likely to take from Biden, not Trump, and simply offer a better chance of a Trump victory. And that is… not a pretty future.
So then we really don’t have a democracy since we’re being forced to only vote for Trump or Biden, instead of other candidates we might align with better?
American politics is too binary to be actually considered democratic. This political system has obvious issues, the biggest one you just discovered for yourself.
If there is only a choice between a and b, with one of them being completely unacceptable, you end up being forced to vote for the other regardless of if they are only marginally better. Voting for a third party under that system is technically possible but only takes away votes from the less terrible choice.
How does that translate to “we don’t really have a democracy”?
If people didn’t want Trump, they could very easily vote for anyone but him.
But a lot of people want Trump. That’s the sad fucking fact of it. Which means that the best option is to coalesce around a single candidate in opposition who has the best chance of beating him - which most who aren’t Trump bootlickers have agreed, however reluctantly, is Biden.
We have a democracy. It’s just that half the people in it crave fascism, and the rest of us are trying to unite with whoever the fuck we can to stop it.
Guess the Dem party needs to work harder on actually giving voters something to vote for rather than something to vote against or they’ll lose. Voters won’t switch to vote Trump, they’ll just stay home.
Why in the flying donkey nuts do people think the only two options are elderly people gradually losing their marbles?
Jebus H Christ, there are other people you can vote for.
In the primaries maybe, in the general you have 2 options, voting anything else increases the chance of a trump win. Which is objectively worse for everyone.
Imagine wanting a Trump victory this badly.
I definitely don’t care for the orange turnip, but that doesn’t mean the only other option is Biden.
Anyone for Vermin Supreme?
Glad to see you here PugJesus, you’re awesome! Hell I’d rather vote for you!
Hah, thanks, but the raw truth of it is that it’s probably too late in the cycle for a third-party candidate with an actual chance to emerge (and I don’t know who the hell would be a popular third party candidate in this environment). In a two-party system like our’s, you either have to win a primary of one of the two parties (which, unfortunately, will be one of the two octogenarians), or hit the ground fucking running like Ross Perot, who came out swinging at 30%+ in polling early in the year.
Unfortunately, as it stands now, with Trump’s supporters lockstep behind him, most third-party protest votes are likely to take from Biden, not Trump, and simply offer a better chance of a Trump victory. And that is… not a pretty future.
So then we really don’t have a democracy since we’re being forced to only vote for Trump or Biden, instead of other candidates we might align with better?
Is this news to you?
American politics is too binary to be actually considered democratic. This political system has obvious issues, the biggest one you just discovered for yourself.
If there is only a choice between a and b, with one of them being completely unacceptable, you end up being forced to vote for the other regardless of if they are only marginally better. Voting for a third party under that system is technically possible but only takes away votes from the less terrible choice.
So democracy is already dead in the US. Got it.
How does that translate to “we don’t really have a democracy”?
If people didn’t want Trump, they could very easily vote for anyone but him.
But a lot of people want Trump. That’s the sad fucking fact of it. Which means that the best option is to coalesce around a single candidate in opposition who has the best chance of beating him - which most who aren’t Trump bootlickers have agreed, however reluctantly, is Biden.
We have a democracy. It’s just that half the people in it crave fascism, and the rest of us are trying to unite with whoever the fuck we can to stop it.
Guess the Dem party needs to work harder on actually giving voters something to vote for rather than something to vote against or they’ll lose. Voters won’t switch to vote Trump, they’ll just stay home.
“I don’t like the boring old guy, therefore, welcome, fascism!”
Thanks, me and all the other people to be herded into the concentration camps thank you for your stunning dedication to democracy.
Blame the Dems for not earning the votes if it happens.