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    This shithead’s genocide is going to birth a new generation of vengeful extremists out of the ashes of Gaza for the rest of the world to deal with in the future

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      By design. Fascists need an enemy to protect people from, in order to justify their cruelty. And they need a underclass to oppress, to demonstrate their power.

      If they can make one out of the other - why, that’s just efficiency.

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      Thus the cycle continues. Come the end of humanity, the last two people in the middle east will still be throwing rocks at each other.

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        The onion had ‘news from the future’ from several years ago and showed the last Israeli fighting the last Palestinian over a stray cat that wandered into the Gaza scrap

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    Ahhh there it is. The PM of Israel just said he plans to violate the treaties and annex Gaza and the West Bank. By ejecting these people from their homeland or just wholesale killing them, that’s fucking genocide. It really never was about Hamas. And Hamas still exists.

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    I hate him so much. Way before the Gaza war. He’s an alt right tyrant regardless of his religion.

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      Don’t call Zionists Jews.

      Zionists are a disgrace using Judaism only as a shield for their war crimes.

      Netanyahu is quite literally a white surpremacist that just wants to kill brown people and expand the Lebensraum.

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        Being a fascist doesn’t stop you being Jewish any more than being a slavemaster stopped the pilgrims from being Christian

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            You can use their apocrypha and their iconology. Adapt their traditions and wear their garb. All you have to do is put first in front of the name or something.

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          If people stopped calling those people Christians that would have been a good start too. Both religions are pretty clear that these acts are not allowed.

          Cherry picking a single chapter about a promised land and deciding to ignore all the rest where it’s clearly state that acquiring it through this kind of corruption is forbidden is not exactly “following the religion”.

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            Sorry mate but all Abrahamic religions contain rules for how to deal with your slaves.

            Slavery is absolutely condoned by the bible.

            Your whole argument is No True Scotsman.

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                … Christians owned slaves. There are rules for owning slaves in the bible.

                What aren’t you getting about this?

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              Yes indeed they contain rules about slavery.

              The problem is that they do the slavery but don’t give the slaves their rights.

              If you look up the rights those slaves would actually have, you quickly realize what’s being followed and what isn’t.

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    “For 30 years, I am very consistent and I am saying something very simple: this conflict is not on the lack of a state of Palestinians, but the existence of a state, the Jewish state,” Netanyahu said, according to a translation on i24NEWS. “Every area that we evacuate we receive terrible terror against us. It happened in South Lebanon, in Gaza, and also in Judea and Samaria [the West Bank] which we did it.”

    It turns out, when you terrorize people and steal their land for decades they are still angry at you when you('re forced to) let them borrow some of their land back while continuing to terrorize them.

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    So…they just lost the international court case then, no? He legit just said “we’re taking it over.”

    'Course, this is me just being hopeful there is some recourse for the blatant disregard for humans 🫤

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      No, waging a war of conquest is a fundamental right of any sovereign state. That doesn’t bear directly on a question as to the prosecution of a genocide.

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        Patently false.

        UN Charter Article 2, paragraph 4:

        All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.

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          UN Charter doesn’t abridge the natural rights of sovereigns. The UN Charter is also not a binding document apart from governing the internal workings of the United Nations. Maybe make sure you know anything about a topic before making yourself look foolish.

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    I’m sure all the people pissed that Rashida Talib used those words will be equally upset about Bibi saying it. /s

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    So he’s finally admitted it. I’m guessing there will be silence from the people that said Israel was definitely going to give Gaza back to Palestine after Hamas was gone.

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    It certainly seems like all roads are leading to a big war soon. Storms a comin fellas. Enjoy what we have now.

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    “From the river to the sea” is just a fancy way of saying “Lebensraum”

    Isn’t it ironic…dontcha’ think…

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    I thought they’d wait longer before doing this. Don’t they want to tease the West a bit longer? See if they can get more weapons and stuff? Or are they calling their bluff, knowing they’ll give them stuff no matter what they say at this point?

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    Of course he says this, all of his actions for the last thirty years have telegraphed this intent. War is how he stays in power, and he takes it personally.

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    That’s a very alarmist interpretation.

    The article admits in the first paragraph that it’s a possible mistranslation. If you’ve been following the rhetoric then you know this is not a new stance, it is a reiteration of the existing question of what body will administer Gaza after the war. Biden has said that the PA should be “revitalized” and assume control of Gaza. Netanyahu has said that the PA lacks the capability, credibility, and capacity to do so. As far as credibility, it’s hard to imagine that Israel is the better option. The idea that Netanyahu is better than the admittedly unpopular Abbas is risible.

    Egypt has flat out refused to take on the job, the Arab league has floundered.

    It seems like the best solution would be a UN transitional force that would rebuild Gaza with financial support from Qatar and UAE, who have expressed willingness. They would be responsible for maintaining order following the power vacuum of removing Hamas, PIJ, etc. They would have to bolster the PA, establish a police force, systems of governance, and roll out the transition for a peaceful transition of power to the PA (or a newly created body).

    That’s no small task. The last thing anyone wants is another Afghanistan. The USA spent decades and billions of dollars to remove the Taliban and establish a democratic system. They finally admitted that it hadn’t worked and handed everything back over to the Taliban.

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      The alternate translation is “everything west of the Jordan River”. It’s the same thing, just not in a prepackaged sound bite.

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        That’s not the significant part of the mistranslation, however. This article says that “Israel will take over the entire region” but the more accurate translation is “Israel must have security in the region.”

        This article is using the most shocking possible translation just to get clicks.

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          He’s made it very clear he means to create that security by annexing it all. The article does provide the alternate translations. They do not help Netanyahu’s case.

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      That’s seems like an awful lot for a tiny little spit of land that basically affects fewer people than any medium sized American city. I think Israel has the superior claim, arguably a duty.

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        On the one hand, it is a little frustrating to see this global focus when there is so little attention paid to the 1.7 million people displaced in Pakistan of the 6 million people displaced in Sudan, or the 86,000 people killed in Nigeria.

        On the other hand, imagine the efforts that the world would go to to free a medium sized American city that was taken captured by terrorists and rebuild it afterword.

        Israel may be the best equipped to maintain order, and they have an existential prerogative to do so. However, what does the eventual transfer of power look like in that scenario? The PA and the UN are maybe the only bodies with the credibility to manage and rebuild the area and form a stable and representative government.

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          I’m willing to bet there will never be any kind of voluntary transfer of power.

          I firmly expect that Israel’s intention is to drive out the Palestinian population and annex Gaza once and for all. Nothing else explains their strategy of mass infrastructure destruction, the regular bombing of civilians, and the regular drumbeat of suggestions of foreign nations like Canada taking in Palestinian refugees. They’re clearly attempting to render Gaza utterly unlivable.

          I mean, what else could possibly be their endgame given the level of destruction Israel has engaged in? A vibrant and functioning Gaza will never be tolerated by the Israeli far right (they literally just finally openly rejected a two state solution, though let’s face it, in practice that’s nothing new). Containment has failed. The only thing left is destruction.

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            I mean, what else could possibly be their endgame given the level of destruction Israel has engaged in? A vibrant and functioning Gaza will never be tolerated by the Israeli far right

            It’ll never be tolerated by Israel period. Let’s not pretend the Israeli left and non-far right are innocent in this.