I mean, Jill Stein is running again. There’s also the dude from Minnesota trying to primary biden.
It’s still a Trump vs Biden election but remember how many people voted for Gary Johnson and Jill Stein in 2016 and how much the establishment hated that? Let’s do that again!
I used to wonder where the 2016 Clinton supporters went to…
But rubbing people’s noses in the fact that we dont have a good option for president like your happy about it. It’s like a passenger on the Titanic laughing because the guy next to him were going to get wet.
But rubbing people’s noses in the fact that you must pick from only 2 shitty candidates and like it.
It’s like being in the mob actively punching holes in the hull of the Titanic or the mob actively setting fires on the Titanic and laughing at the people who are trying to bail the water and throw it on the flames.
Well yeah, but that isn’t something that happens overnight. We’re not going to succeed in every primary in every year. It’s going to take like a decade. The point is, we need to still do something in the interim while we get there. We can’t just consider it hopeless and allow the worst to happen when we have the ability to make it less worse.
It’s been taking hell of a lot longer than a decade already
The only interm option is voting for whatever Dem is in the general.
The fact that the DNC just yanked NH’s primary delegates for something only NH republicans have control of, means just blindly voting D in the general isn’t enough. They’ve argued to a judge and won that their not bound by the votes. I fear I’ll live to see it because the same billionaire assholes fund both parties.
Which one if those is running for POTUS, wants the position, and can realistically win? If they can’t win, which they can’t at least this election cycle, then it is a waste and detrimental to the future of the US to vote for any of them. You don’t have to like it, but as it stands, Biden is the only option that isn’t pushing a fascist agenda.
… the union buster architect of the genocide of the Palestinian people whose running platforms are currently “I’m not Trump” and “I take really great super-villain pictures” isn’t pushing a pure fascist agenda?
Because Trump would be better for the Palestinian people? Don’t get me wrong, you’re not off the mark on biden in the least, but until the Republicans can put up something other than buffoonery, make your choice in the primary then hold your nose in the general for the lesser of two evils. Welcome to first past the post
I am tired of having the same exact conversation every day.
Yall need to stop reciting the same verbatim 5 statements.
“He is committing genocide on the Palestinian people, but is better for the Palestinian people than Trump” is just such a deluded argument. Both spell eradication for the Palestinian people. Eradication is eradication.
We’ll keep repeating the same 5 statements because they’re the truth. Like I said, you don’t have to like it, but this is reality. Not voting for Biden is bad for the US. If you think your morals are stronger and more important than voting to help benefit the lives of millions, then you do you. It just means your selfish and pro fascism.
You also have the black and white take on geopolitics. There’s more nuance to somethings than others. I’m appalled by what’s happening in Palestine, and would love to drop all support for Israel. In fact, I work for a manufacturing company that is machining parts that will likely be used to kill innocent people over there. I’m actively trying to find a new job and that’s one of the biggest driving factors. Unfortunately, I have bills and shit so I’m stuck until I’m not. I have no love for current events and decisions, but I’m far more concerned with the future of this country and our allies’s future based on the upcoming election.
Agreed, but whether you’re happy with it or not, one of them WILL be president come next year. There are a lot of other issues in the ballot that impact people’s lives as well. Being a single issue voter is how systems like this ratchet up in the first place.
Half century of strategic plotting by the evilest minds on earth. Encourage people to vote for Biden so we have more than 10 months of democracy left, you contrarian dipshit.
You got a better idea?
Ya, repeal Citizens United and get the government representing the people, not the dollars.
Okay cool but I’m curious, who should we vote for?
I mean, Jill Stein is running again. There’s also the dude from Minnesota trying to primary biden.
It’s still a Trump vs Biden election but remember how many people voted for Gary Johnson and Jill Stein in 2016 and how much the establishment hated that? Let’s do that again!
I used to wonder where the 2016 Clinton supporters went to…
But rubbing people’s noses in the fact that we dont have a good option for president like your happy about it. It’s like a passenger on the Titanic laughing because the guy next to him were going to get wet.
Y’all stand out.
Who said I was happy about it?
Those would be Biden supporters.
But rubbing people’s noses in the fact that you must pick from only 2 shitty candidates and like it.
It’s like being in the mob actively punching holes in the hull of the Titanic or the mob actively setting fires on the Titanic and laughing at the people who are trying to bail the water and throw it on the flames.
“Doc, I’m feeling really depressed. Nothing is making me happy.”
“Have you tried just, being happy and joyful?”
“But I don’t know how to do that. How do I get there?”
“Oh, so now you’re just rubbing it in that I’m an awful doctor?!”
It’s a totally valid question to say “okay that sounds great, but how do we get there?”.
If anyone is actually asking that:
Elect better dem candidates in the primary while we still have primaries. Then they pass laws to get money out of politics.
Shit ain’t complicated, so it’s hard to take anyone serious who has to ask.
Well yeah, but that isn’t something that happens overnight. We’re not going to succeed in every primary in every year. It’s going to take like a decade. The point is, we need to still do something in the interim while we get there. We can’t just consider it hopeless and allow the worst to happen when we have the ability to make it less worse.
It’s been taking hell of a lot longer than a decade already
The only interm option is voting for whatever Dem is in the general.
The fact that the DNC just yanked NH’s primary delegates for something only NH republicans have control of, means just blindly voting D in the general isn’t enough. They’ve argued to a judge and won that their not bound by the votes. I fear I’ll live to see it because the same billionaire assholes fund both parties.
Bernie, AOC, Katie Porter, Ro Khanna, Rashida Tlaib.
After they have recused themselves from the Democrat party and have declared themselves Independent.
Those would be my choices.
Which one if those is running for POTUS, wants the position, and can realistically win? If they can’t win, which they can’t at least this election cycle, then it is a waste and detrimental to the future of the US to vote for any of them. You don’t have to like it, but as it stands, Biden is the only option that isn’t pushing a fascist agenda.
… the union buster architect of the genocide of the Palestinian people whose running platforms are currently “I’m not Trump” and “I take really great super-villain pictures” isn’t pushing a pure fascist agenda?
God, those blinders must be nice to have.
Because Trump would be better for the Palestinian people? Don’t get me wrong, you’re not off the mark on biden in the least, but until the Republicans can put up something other than buffoonery, make your choice in the primary then hold your nose in the general for the lesser of two evils. Welcome to first past the post
I am tired of having the same exact conversation every day.
Yall need to stop reciting the same verbatim 5 statements.
“He is committing genocide on the Palestinian people, but is better for the Palestinian people than Trump” is just such a deluded argument. Both spell eradication for the Palestinian people. Eradication is eradication.
We need to stop the eradication.
We’ll keep repeating the same 5 statements because they’re the truth. Like I said, you don’t have to like it, but this is reality. Not voting for Biden is bad for the US. If you think your morals are stronger and more important than voting to help benefit the lives of millions, then you do you. It just means your selfish and pro fascism.
You also have the black and white take on geopolitics. There’s more nuance to somethings than others. I’m appalled by what’s happening in Palestine, and would love to drop all support for Israel. In fact, I work for a manufacturing company that is machining parts that will likely be used to kill innocent people over there. I’m actively trying to find a new job and that’s one of the biggest driving factors. Unfortunately, I have bills and shit so I’m stuck until I’m not. I have no love for current events and decisions, but I’m far more concerned with the future of this country and our allies’s future based on the upcoming election.
Agreed, but whether you’re happy with it or not, one of them WILL be president come next year. There are a lot of other issues in the ballot that impact people’s lives as well. Being a single issue voter is how systems like this ratchet up in the first place.
Perhaps you should consider our arguments more seriously if a multitude of people are all coming to these conclusions.
How does one “repeal” a Supreme Court decision?
I don’t know. How did Roe v Wade get repealed?
Half century of strategic plotting by the evilest minds on earth. Encourage people to vote for Biden so we have more than 10 months of democracy left, you contrarian dipshit.