It was a fun run.
I hope someone else comes up with a similar product soon.
I’m pretty sure there are a lot of similar boards out there
OrangePi comes to mind.
There are, and I think the only real difference has been the community support. The community was behind the original pi and the guides, images and support show that, and it continues to this day.
If this becomes “enshittified” then communities will grow around the alternatives, it’s likely there will be an overall winner (or winners per class) and we’ll move on. The device itself wasn’t ever the whole story.
if I made a k8s cluster with all the options I could have a fruit salad
That’s going to be a fun way to learn pod tolerances and affinities. Although… it’s also a great way to play around with multiarch clusters without accidentally burning a hole in your wallet from AWS/GCP usage.
Banana Pis are great
There are a ton already. RPi stopped being interesting 5 years ago.
I really liked my RP 4.
I got a Pi5 and it’s doin WORK for my partner when they’re working from home all day and watching stuff on the internet!
It’s my last pi for sure.
If you were able to buy one at the beginning of the pandemic it was great. If you weren’t, then the 4 was annoying as fuck because it was impossible to purchase at anything less than 3X MSRP.
Did anyone buy the Pi Zero at $5 or did we all mass hallucinate?
There are already tons of them. And what’s more you don’t even need them anymore because the X86 ones have come way down in price.
Not the same form factor and around twice the price, erying es intel motherboards are a steal at their current price. You do need RAM / Storage / ATX PSU they end up a much more performant’ piece of hardware.
The Q1J2 (20 threads) board I have despite it being an ES chip has given me no issues. Running most of my home services on the board with a coral nvme m.2 + nvme + sata storage. Can even do dual ethernet via the a+e m.2 and add-in more sata storage via m.2 to 6x sata board.
I’ve got a pi somewhere in the mounds of boards at home, but would rather spin up another container / pod / nspawn on my erying board vs go through the motions of setting up a pi.
There are definitely Rpi “card form factor” x86_64 SBCs. UP Board for example is one of those.
I’ve been debating an X86 for all my favourite old school games.
Can i get a little Tristan Pinball up in here!?
I think a bunch of others gained some footing in the market when Raspberry Pi had supply chain issues during/after COVID. When I last shopped for a Pi, I saw a ton of other options.
Similar products exist, but I don’t think any of the others have quite the same level of official and community documentation.
I haven’t looked into it in years but Arduino used to be pretty similar.
Arduino is a microcontroller, Rpi is a SoC that runs an OS… quite different.
Similar situation. Arduino made microcontrollers accessible to the masses like raspberry made low cost computing accessible.
So on an unrelated note, what’s the best alternative available right now?
Maybe Orange PI.
Honestly… when I was doing my research, for the power consumption and the flexibility of Raspberry Pi, nothing came close to it, at least not at the time (2016). Since then, I’ve never even bothered to look at it’s competition.
Radxa
They have a great line up. So Milk-V duo is cool but really a lower class lower prive device
Remember today when you reflect on what was stolen from us.
I’d argue it was taken from us several years ago when Raspberry made the decision to prioritize business customers over education and hobby during the chip shortages.
Guess I should stock up while I can huh?
I’ve been a RPI fan since the beginning and have used their boards for all sorts of projects and tinkering. But it’s hard not to feel like it’s losing sight of what made it attractive in the first place: low power and low priced computing. It had its charm in buying a Pi Zero and just chucking emulators on it and handing them out to folks who might want to have a go.
But with the more expensive, more powerful hardware you just can’t really use them for things like that anymore. Just too expensive and too much oomph for the use case.
We’ll see if the company finds its way. But this usually isn’t a good sign…
Public? Like, owned by a state? Isn’t that good?
No, publicly traded. One of the first steps to enshittyfication.
Often a whole lot of steps are taken before actually going public.
I think in English that’d be called being nationalized
Oooh, gotcha! I didn’t understand many of the replies because I’m not well versed in economics, but I thought that it meant nationalized indeed.
No, public like owned by investors who bought stock and want profits.
Listed on stock exchanges instead of owned by private shareholders.
Owned by everyone who wants to buy them. Yes, it is good.
Also state owned is only really useful for infrastructure, where it doesn’t make sense to have multiple providers and monopolies are easily attainable. Like roads, rails, electricity, internet backbone infrastructure and providers, social media, etc. Democracy is the currently best way we know of managing monopolies.
For other stuff, you probably want employee owned democratic collectives. You would still have competition on the market, but its ordinary people that have the say. This would give more power to the people enthused about the tech and long term success, then all the short term gains.
Well I guess the lack of availability that never let me get into pi’s the last few years was a good thing. R.I.P.
This hurts.
Garbage. They started this in order to provide very poor people the means to program and create things.
The end of a beautiful era - hats off for all the folks who made the pi what it is, the folks who will now be forced to make us sorrowful for what it will become.
The 3B was a far superior alternative to the NES Classic I couldn’t get at the time (and taught me what little I know about Linux - I even got a lesson in sudo one time when a command wouldn’t work). o7
RIP
So that settles it. I have to get one now before they enshittify the new models.
The 5 is already somewhat enshittified. The Non Standard USB power that makes you buy a propietary PS is one example (which I found out after buying one for my son).
Ew
That is due to power reasons ,but they could have just underclocked it by default.
What is the power reason if i may ask?
I dunno maybe cpu? Really it is actually stupid why didn’t they just make it optional.
Tbh, i cant make an opinion without technical details :')
I don’t buy it. USBC can deliver quite a lot of power
I agree. Pi5 apparently uses 5v@5A max, which is outside the usbc-pd specs. Not sure why they didnt go for usbc-9v in and use onboard components to convert the power to something lower for cpu ( which i assume it already does from 5v )
Maybe those packages are bulky or something.
Wait is it locked to the official charger?
Bu- bu- but… it’s got AI.
People were asking for ML/AI accelerator to replace Coral for a very long time.
That explains the Pi 5 pricing. They started the enshittification early.
exactly what i thought. lol.
2024 is going to be the year of
the Linux Desktopenshittification. When anything you love goes public, you won’t be loving it for much longer.Nope, it has been ongoing since 2013. From Adobe stopping physical sales of Creative Suite, to the Xbox One being announced, to Apple flattening iOS to the point of it looking like ass, the enshittification has started at this point in time. And their excuse was to be “more modern”, my ass.
eh, i actually like flat design. just me, though.
Good for you.
And thus begins “why isn’t the profit line going up?” phase of the company
At faster growth rates each quarter!
Just growth isn’t enough, we have to make sure our growth rate itself is growing!
Keep differentiating that shit forever!
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Introduced in 2014, the Pi gained the familiar 40-pin GPIO header and 512MB of RAM, yet it can hardly be called a ball of fire when compared to more modern hardware from the company.
Pi supremo Eben Upton was delighted with how things have gone so far and said in a statement: "The reaction that we have received is a reflection of the world-class team that we have assembled and the strength of the loyal community with whom we have grown.
“Welcoming new shareholders alongside our existing ones brings with it a great responsibility, and one that we accept willingly, as we continue on our mission to make high-performance, low-cost computing accessible to everyone.”
Some users have expressed mixed feelings about the IPO, noting that the money would be helpful for R&D and new projects, however, the flotation underlines the fact that the company is a business.
As for the future, Upton told The Register earlier this year that while he remains at the helm of the organization, it would continue to do interesting work and try to keep making money.
The Reg hopes this is the case, but think it’s fair to say that pleasing both the corporation’s customers and shareholders might end up being more challenging than obtaining a Raspberry Pi 5 at launch.
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