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    He probably literally can’t. Like MAYBE if his staff hangs around with a cattle prod and teleprompter maybe they can hide it for a while but dementia patients often can’t retain new information, they circle back again and again to whatever knowledge/memories that were locked in before their deterioration stepped up to their current slope downwards.

    I wouldn’t be surprised it this is a huge part of why they’re panicking so desperately. This is cataclysmic and I can’t wait to watch it unfold

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      It took him years to get over Clinton. He’s got 4 months now, and Biden is still President so he’s gonna have an even tougher time trying to keep it straight in his dementia-riddled mind.

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      It was also visible in the debate. They told him “whatever question comes up, bring up immigrants”. If Trump had been forced to actually answer any of the questions, his dementia would have been much more obvious.

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      …teleprompter…

      Speaking of which:
      Wasn’t there something about Trump’s wound being the result of a bullet-shattered teleprompter, not an actual bullet?

      What became of that? Not to minimize the heinousness of the act, but he didn’t take a bullet…

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      Something tells me that if Biden, Hillary and Obama were to start stumping for Harris and the media covered it, Trump would have no idea who he was actually facing in the election. There’s no way his handlers would be able to keep him focused.

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        It would be hilarious if all three showed up at the debate location (if it even happens) to show support to Harris, I think the orange man would blue screen. :-D

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        It would be a pleasant alternate reality if some reporter who was doing an interview with Trump would start giving him a cognitive test live on air.

        You wouldn’t have to make it formal. Just ask a few questions about Obama, get him talking about Obama’s policies, maybe the Iran nuclear deal. And then suddenly ask, “Who’s your opponent, Donald?” Soft and friendly like a serial killer. “Who are you running against in this election?”

        “What year is it, Donald? What’s the day of the week?”

        “Who’s this, Donald?” and put up a picture of Nikki Haley.

        “What year did Covid happen, Donald? Can you remember?”

        Give him lots of long silences to try to figure the answers out. Don’t interrupt, don’t distract him, don’t move on. Just let the dead air play out until he can’t stand it and says something. But if it’s not the answer… ask again. Tell him it’s okay if he doesn’t remember, but you want to give him another try.

        Before you do it, set up his mic all tangled and firmly fastened, so if he tries to stand up and leave, he can’t get it off, and keep the camera running while he struggles. Keep asking questions while he’s trying to free himself. Politely and calmly, but don’t stop.

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          My favorite cognitive question ever is when I heard a paramedic ask a patient “Is Mickey Mouse a cat or a dog?”

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          A little off topic but I’ve been listening to the Alex Jones depositions on the knowledge fight podcast (highly recommend) and that was kinda similar. Not in a cognitive test way, but seeing his fish gallop technique running into a wall is so satisfying.

          For example the plaintiffs lawyer asks a question, Jones uses that as a jumping off point for one of his famous nonsense rants and they just let him ramble for 2 minutes and then the lawyer answers in a very calm manner - “Mr. Jones, that was not my question, my question was …” Repeatedly until they got a straight answer, “Mr Jones I have all day to get the answers I need.”

          Once or twice the lawyer even interrupted him with “Babababab! Please just answer my question!” Or “What are you even talking about?” Jones was so caught in his show persona that he stood no chance of avoiding to answer unpleasant questions.

          His dad was way more in control of the court room, giving yes or no answers, keeping it short, like someone who listens to his lawyers should do.

          The scariest dude in the depositions was one of his editors, a nice sounding guy, who hated Alex Jones, knew that what they were doing was harmful bullshit but continued to do it for years without caring about the impact. The mundanity of evil.

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          Lets be real, he’d walk out. A few years ago I heard an NPR interview with him not too long after Jan 6th and he clearly only took them up on it because he had been mostly de-platformed and was struggling to land interviews right then. He talked over the reporter then hung up. The entire thing was only about 6 minutes long

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            Yes, if he’s still capable of realizing he’s being played, he’ll either attack back or end it.

            He’s doesn’t seem to have the quiet peaceful dementia (yet, maybe). He has the paranoid violent kind where he still likely knows he’s losing it much of the time.

            I’ve had 2 different in-laws go through Alzheimer’s. One went from Mr. Rogers nice, to swearing and upset, especially when he lost control of some of his bodily functions. Thankfully Covid got him early in the pandemic and he didn’t have to suffer through starvation.

            My MIL however was pleasant and calm, and eventually succumbed to dehydration when she forgot how to swallow. We need proper right to die laws in the US.

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      the best part is that they have absolutely no one who could come close to being a match for harris, if the worst (best) were to happen and trump croaks before the election

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        When people die from dementia, what is the actual organic cause or death? Lile does their heart stop, infection, etc?

        Also, how much longer would you give him?

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          For her it was probably her heart stopping from not eating. They noticed that her pulse was low a couple days ago. She basically did what old animals will do and just kinda stopped eating.

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    They also don’t know the difference between socialism and communism. His voters are morons.

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    I don’t think it’s too far fetched at all to entertain the idea that Biden didn’t catch COVID, that the story was fabricated to allow a clean transition to a new candidate. The magnitude of lie and manipulation isn’t shit relative their other tactics.

    If one assumes all politicians are selfish, evil liars until proven otherwise and understands the processes of the system then one can often predict the future. And, most everyone will hate them for it until they’re dead.

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      Every word out of the farting orange clown’s mouth is a lie and your panties are in a bunch over whether or not Biden has/had COVID? The guy lied for 4 god damned years about an election being stolen. You’re worried about the reason he dropped out of a race that everyone said he was too old for in the first place so he could transition the job smoothly? Lol.

      The magnitude of the lie? Hahahah. Jesus.

      Dude, you really gotta take a step back and rethink your life and get some perspective. You’re gonna be one of those “hustlers”/“go-hards” that works 40 years for the same company at the same position without taking a sick day or vacation day. When you retire instead of a bonus or lifetime recognition award they’re gonna give you the same company branded coffee mug and lens cleaner rag they give out at trade shows.

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      Why do people love conspiratorial thinking so much? Do you know how many people would have to be in on this? And how many you’d have to trust not to blab? And how hard it would be for them to keep a huge secret? Even if you were right about predicting the future (and you’re not), someone would have to gamble on all of this. You ever notice how with very few exceptions crazy shit like this doesn’t fail and come out - which statistically should happen all the fucking time unless everyone is supremely competent.

      Sorry, friend, but no this is completely far fetched and if you’d ever worked for the government you’d fall over laughing at the idea. If anyone was this good, they sure as hell don’t work for the government.

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        Why do people love conspiratorial thinking so much?

        Because the well reasoned ones are often proven true in a few decades. During Trump we had truth in months. But, typically the President can follow the script.

        Do you know how many people would have to be in on this?

        Four: controller, media content, doctor, and spouse.

        Do you know how easy it is to deceive the masses? Neolibs aren’t nearly as far ahead of the MAGA cult as they like to believe.

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          Covid was never even part of the conversation. No one cared. You’d think someone who could mastermind this brilliant plan could also predict no one would fucking care.

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            It’s not some brilliant plan. It’s really fucking simple: Provide a dignified excuse to break tradition and break the opposing narrative. The dignity of the Office must be preserved.

            I once quit working for the feds as a data analyst to be a subcontractor. Then, as soon as I had another anchor client, I kicked them to the curb mid-project.

            .dev? You’ve disposable income. Ante up, then.

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              It’s not some brilliant plan

              It’s not a plan at all. It’s some nonsense a couple idiots online dreamed up.

              Biden didn’t mention COVID when he withdrew.

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              .dev? You’ve disposable income. Ante up, then.

              I’m in the Midwest, not Silicon Valley, and I’ve been out of work for four months. My retirement savings is all but gone. I’m not in a position to ante up, but if you have any leads on a lead/senior Java (or anyone willing to give me a chance on something else) dev position believe me I’m all fucking ears.

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                After I got good at one thing I got good at another. My work situation got much better as soon as I brought those two things together. It took three to have control over which projects I worked on.

                But, right now, none of that matters. You can’t invest into five or six years from now while you’re worried about tomorrow.

                I don’t have a lead and I’m not sure how I can help. But, if you’ve an idea of how I can assist, now or in the future, HMU.

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                  I appreciate that, genuinely. I’ll be fine. I’ll find something. I’m working in picking up AWS now. Probably have to get better at a front end framework. I haven’t done front end since Bootstrap was a thing, other than code reviews.

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        Human minds evolved to spot patterns. This was very useful for identifying predators and prey back in the savannas of Africa.

        Now people can put a pizza in the oven and use that powerful pattern matching to imagine incredibly stupid bullshit like this guys take above.

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      Its also not too far fetched for him to catch covid. I’ve caught it twice in the last 12 months despite boosters and meeting much less people and being responsible. For me, it was a sniffle, for him probably a good deal worse and he might have realise his physical fitness is worse than he thought, especially after the debate and the reaction to it. Nothing like some illness to show us were not infallible, even when potus.

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        Its also not too far fetched for him to catch covid.

        I agree. My point is that humans greatly overestimate that which favors themselves. We don’t know the truth. We may never. And, the masses are severely underestimating the probability that it’s one big lie.

        It’s not that I don’t care about you personally. But, your personal anecdote is far from the data required to back your claim. I’m not asking you to dig up data. I already know the media isn’t reporting the epidemic anymore. It just doesn’t make much sense to support your statement in that way.

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          I think the better question is: Why does it MATTER if it was a lie or not? Who exactly got harmed if Biden needed an excuse to back out to save his own ego? Whether Biden actually had Covid or not changes almost nothing

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            It matters to them and others like them because if Biden and the Democratic party were lying about Biden having Covid it’s a really lame soundbite Maga turds can use to rationalize all of the hypocritical lies and nonsense Rebublicans spout whenever they open their mouths.

            Even though deep down they know, they can’t admit it to themselves because their entire personality hinges on being Maga (as you see with all of the tacky shit they wear and buy to make their homes a joke) and if they accept the reality that Trump and his cultists are pieces of shit it means they are pieces of shit, and that’s an even harder pill to swallow than the fact Trump attempted a coup.

            “Trump lied about being involved with Project 2025? Oh yeah? Well Biden lied about being sick!!!”

            Because being involved with destroying democracy and making it possible for a lot of people to die by Isreali-style genocide is the same as lying about having a cold, even if Biden was lying.

            What’s next? Taking multiple weeks of time off from performing Presidential duties running America multiple times to go play golf?

            Oh, that was Trump.

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            Our government lies to us regularly. But, the people won’t even accept the possibility of a small one such as this. They’ve got to walk before they can run.

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              And those of you focussing on whether or not covid was an excuse/lie are on the extreme other end of the isle when the details of whether or not he lied about Covid make absolutely ZERO difference on the current situation. People in power lie, holy shit, life shattering revelation there!

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                So, the tactics you decided to go with were repetition and minimization? At least do this stupid thing well. Learn your logical fallacies and make more purposeful use of them.

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          My personal anecdote was not proof. It was letting you know that its common without data.

          I dont thinknit was a lie. If it was, it was a pretty pointless one.

          Youre clutching at straws and when you are askibgbfor evidence, but not asking, while spouting conspiracy theories, you don’t make a good argument for anything.

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                A week delay makes meaningful participation impossible. As I’m on .world, my best guess is that a solution is best initiated by your instance’s moderators. If you’ve not already then you should find the means to report.

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                  The problem is world, I understand. Its too full. So its slow to federate with all others.

                  Thanks, but I prefer the concept of distribution, so happy to converse with all the other instances rather than just world.

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      The broader public don’t care. Biden could have dropped out because his ice cream was too cold and people would be cool with it.

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        They’d hated the idea of him stepping down. Now they love it.

        They care. And, it’s about good and wholesome things. But, they haven’t yet reasoned out how effectively act upon it.

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    Good, good, keep running against the wrong guy. Your dumb cultists will stay enraged, as you like them, but those who are possible to actually reach might be turned off by it.

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    “Tomorrow trump will wake up and forget biden even dropped out!” - dementia addled trump

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    He’s too senile to change tactics. I’m willing to bet half the reason he chose Vance was because they knew he was going to screw up and say Pence a bunch, and the similarity of pronunciation would give them plausible deniability.

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    Why would he? In his fantasy world, Biden is his easy opponent, he’s perfectly innocent and not a convicted criminal at all, he is actually the smartest person alive, instead of just the smartest person he’s ever been. Why would he join us in reality when his imaginary happy place that’s shared by millions of FOX viewers is so much more attractive?

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      just the smartest person he’s ever been

      He’s not even that. His brain is clearly deteriorating.

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          Give me some 1940s German Tanker chocolate, a bottle of Kentucky bourbon, and a trash bag full of cocaine. I can garuntee you he will gain enough lucidity to recognize that fact, he will also most certainly die while feeling real fucken good.

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        Trump seems to think so, considering how he’s already finding excuses why he can’t debate her. And not just like he was preemptively finding excuses for losing before the last debate.

        This time he’s crapping his pants because Biden’s style was politely waiting his turn until Trump finished and then presenting his version of one of the 50 false statements Trump had delivered in rapid-fire mode before.

        So far, Harris gives the impression that she’ll go straight for Trump’s felones.