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        Yeah, most of the crowd at a Trump rally is going to be a caricature of all the negative stereotypes about Republicans and/or Americans. And if we know them personally, we can tell they aren’t right in the head.

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        A minority that has janky map lines and other voting shenanigans like the electoral college to make them potent beyond their numbers, unfortunately

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        Twitter mob: protect the religious minority! And roch minority!

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      The people showing up to trump and turning point bullshit are not representative of the majority. But constant coverage of those morons since trump definitely makes it seem that way

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        We also have roughly half the population of the entirety of Europe in one country. With that many people, you’re going to have more dumb dumbs than wherever OP is from.

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          EU’s 449M + Ukraine’s 38M + Belarusian’s 9M + 115M in european part of Russia = 661M. There are also two european cities in Kazahstan and entire UK, but we will ignore them for now.

          So yeah, roughly half.

          With that many people, you’re going to have more dumb dumbs than wherever OP is from.

          We are talking about concentration, not about absolute numbers.

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    i don’t understand why people are still anti-abortion in general, but even for those who are completely against it, why not allow it in extreme cases like medical reasons, rape, and incest? surely your god wouldn’t want a young girl raped by her father to give birth to her own child-sibling who’s definitely going to be all kinds of genetically and mentally fucked up?

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      The Lord works in mysterious ways. Or some other bullshit they tell themselves to justify the horrors of the world. The Lord is almighty. No, fuck you, the “lord” does not exist, you imbecile.

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      Because they believe that women should be subordinate to men, and that their sexuality should be tightly controlled. For the same reason, they want to make it harder to get divorced.

      It has never been about religion, that’s just a smokescreen. it’s just control over women.

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      “Christians” didn’t give two shits about abortion until integrating schools became a thing in the South. Then, suddenly, we care about the “unborn.”

      Just gonna leave this here:

      "The unborn are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.”

      • Pastor David Barnhart
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      Because they believe that a fetus is a human being, and that killing a human is murder. I find it sad that so many people cannot understand that many Christians really believe that.

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        Sure, they “believe” it is murder up until they or their family would like to undergo one.

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        I have seen no evidence that they actually believe that, considering how this diverges from their beliefs about the sanctity of life in many other areas.

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        Christians believe that a zombie can come back to life too. Why would any of their fantasy beliefs matter in the slightest.

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        Apparently it’s when they are old enough to be in school shootings that they cease to be a precious important life to be protected at all cost.

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        We understand that they believe it. We don’t agree with it and resent being told we have to live under someone else’s belief system.

        Forcing others to live their lives according to your religion that they do not share is violence.

        The rest of humanity does not want or need your beliefs forced on us, so kindly keep them to yourselves.

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            it starts with that because i, as an individual, don’t understand! i’ve lived my whole life surrounded by atheists, was born and raised as an atheist by other atheists, and i genuinely don’t get how someone can think that their outdated organised religion should dictate modern life

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        It’s crazy how many of those same Christians are okay with killing a human if it’s a stand-your-ground home break in, or if it’s a thief, or if it’s a black guy with a counterfeit dollar bill, or if it’s the death penalty.

        It’s sad how people fall for their stupid double-speak but here we are.

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            I have never met a Christian who wouldn’t kill in self-defense.

            I didn’t call them monsters, I called them morons.

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          Not defending them, but they would probably say it’s about innocence. If it’s a criminal they can convince themselves that they deserve it (and they’re racists, so they’ll just assume that any given black person is a criminal).

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        Buuut they don’t. When was the last time a so called Christian held a funeral for a miscarriage??

        They do not believe what you said, not at all.

        Their religious texts don’t say it. They don’t believe because they are not ready to throw their sisters and mothers in prison for abortions.

        It is all a big fat lie perpetrated by politicians using religion for their personal gain. They have used effective propaganda to dup non-political people into voting for them.

        There are some extremists that may believe this but they are not mainstream at all despite how badly they want to be. I would argue these people are not Christians at all.

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      Honest answer? Yeah, many of them would. Because God doesn’t make mistakes and it must therefore be God’s plan.

      Why is rape part of God’s plan but abortion isn’t? No clue, beats me.

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        Abortion is part of god’s plan, he gives instructions for one way to cause a medical miscarriage in Numbers 5:11-31. They just ignore the parts of the book that don’t agree with their fascism.

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        Because it’s always just been a lie designed to control, the entirety of their worldview is

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        It’s all part of God’s plan? It’s either all or not all, so which is it?

        Expecting critical thinking supported faith is a waste of time ;-)

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          Nah, only things I want and like is gods plan, the rest is of course the devils plan!

          It’s so simple, right?

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    Floundering for a platform when the only platform they had, “fuck Biden”, was suddenly pulled out from under them. Now they don’t know what to do.

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    And yet at the end of the day they will conveniently forget about this and still support their God-Emperor no matter what.

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    You really have to be full of hate to take such a position. Wtf.

    Hey, you know what’s cool? Traumatizing victims of trauma!

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    They’re really going to force him to eat the ookie cookie that is being in support of an exception-less national abortion ban.

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    Well that’s ironic cause he’s guilty of at least one of those things and wants the other, at the very least.

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    When I saw this post scrolling by the thumbnail really got my attention…

    That little piece of black mic in front of his nose…it just reminded me of some figure from the not so distant past…he also rallied huge crowds and they were all cheering for every single word he said.

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    You shouldn’t have to file a police report or be seriously ill to get an abortion. Fuck the GOP’s stance on abortion.

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      Lol at GOP writing a law where a police report is sufficient. They will only include a rape/incest allowance if there’s a conviction. Of course that will never happen in time, so the exception becomes meaningless.

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      That’s Trump’s stance on abortion. GOP stance is: you’re not an American if you support ANY abortion publicly.

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        They don’t think you’re human if you support abortion. They see you as some sort of serial killer. It’s absolutely batshit crazy.

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        probably not even his stance on abortion.

        “Yeah… i support exceptions for, uh, rape, and stuff… <whink whink whink>”. the boos were because he didn’t make the winking obvious enough for the troglodytes in the back.

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        The American way is to have children die of preventable diseases because they can’t afford healthcare or by school shooting.

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    Man is stuck between a rock and a hard place. He doesn’t want to make this election a referendum on abortion, because as we’ve seen in ballot measures in the past two years, he can’t win that fight. However, his base won’t accept anything but a hardline stance. Must suck to be him, couldn’t happen to a worse person.

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        There’s one thing Trump hates, and that’s being seen as weak.

        I rather him push forward and continue raging until he expires.

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      He put himself there. Remember that in 2012 he was pretty waffley on abortion and then he listened to the Christian nationals and stuffed to court with people who wanted to kill Roe. Whether he is truly drinking the Kool-Aide (personally I don’t think Trump gives a shit about anything as long as he gets money and fame) or not he is now committed to a position that 70% of Americans disagree with. The fact that Dems aren’t knocking it out of the fucking park (we’re moving in the right direction finally, at least) is a pretty clear sign that America is sick and tired of neoliberalism and wants actual change.

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        While he doesn’t care about anything 9ther than himself, I think that he such poor management skills that he doesn’t know how to resolve any situation that you can’t bully yourself out of.

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      Man is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

      Imo this is also one of the issues that shows how he has boxed himself into a corner with his VP candidate choice. If he had chosen someone that appeals to a different voter base, rather than Vance, who caters to the same crowd, then they’d have an easier time arguing both sides at the same time.

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      Same situation where he was almost begging his cult to take the vaccine. You can see him share how important it was, realizing they were gonna lynch him, and immediately kept twisting it over and over until he was on their side again.

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        If he hadn’t politicized it in the first place it would’ve been ok, but he saw the blue cities being hit first and so it was initially a benefit because people voting against him were dying. Then his big dumdum a-brain couldn’t extrapolate to the future where eventually only people against science would be dying, so he came out against protections. By the time the he realized his cult was dying off it was far too late for them to change their personalities.

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          While this is all true, I do want to clarify. He was always for the vaccine. Because you take the vaccine and then the problem goes away.

          He was always against masking and social distancing, because that hurts the Dow Jones Industrial Average. He cared more about the S&P 500 than he did about the American people.

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            Moreover as Fauci recounts, tiny hands wanted it to be just like the seasonal flu that ‘in a few months just goes away’.

            His idiot brain wanted it gone by obfuscation and denial.