• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    Weirdest part is people being surprised…

    They still don’t get how much Joe was holding the party back. Anyone else would have seen these same gains

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      Sadly being good at governing doesn’t mean being good at running in an election.

      I was hoping that people could see trump presidency vs Biden presidency and see the difference, but it looks like that’s not enough.

      Having said that, I hope Kamala will be as good or even better than Biden in governing.

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        It’s almost impossible for her to be worse than Biden, so you’re good.

        I was hoping that people could see trump presidency vs Biden presidency and see the difference, but it looks like that’s not enough.

        Correct, there wasn’t enough of a difference between Biden and trump

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          I did not vote for Biden in 2020 primaries, but he positively surprised me. He actually does an excellent job at governing, but very poor at broadcasting his accomplishments. He managed to pass some progressive bills in such a partisan environment. Managed to unite West, reunite NATO and even expand it by additional 2 members who originally were neutral.

          Recovered US from covid pandemic, with lowest inflation in the West. Avoided recession, the US economy has the lowest unemployment.

          You’re just repeating GOP disinformation without concrete examples.

          He actually is on the road to be ranked as one of the best presidents.

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            He managed to pass some progressive bills in such a partisan environment.

            No.

            Congress was able to pass some bills that were a little progressive.

            Biden just signed them instead of vetoing, which is something literally every other person with a D by their name would do.

            Biden was very vocal about how changing anyone in congress’s mind on literally anything, so he doesn’t get to take credit like some magical.puppet master who made it happen.

            And the bounceback after COVID…

            How much of that was an executive action Biden made happen?

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              Boy you’re still up the b b b Biden bad! stuff huh. He pushed for things from Congress and he got them through when he had the house of reps and Senate. Yes he does get credit.

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              I mean day one he signed several executive orders. He personally killed the keystone pipeline. I believe he was also personally responsible for us rejoining NATO and the Paris accords. He has done a lot of good work.

              The only things I’m aware of that he has done poorly is his handling of Israel, and his inability to be uncivilized. He should’ve called trump and the rest of the Republicans out on their bullshit and publicly shamed them every step along the way.

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                He personally killed the keystone pipeline. I believe he was also personally responsible for us rejoining NATO and the Paris accords.

                he’s also personally blocking through tariffs truly affordable green energy products from entering this country; especially EV’s and solar power using the inflation act; and has ramped up fossil fuel products to the highest levels this country has ever seen in its entire history.

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                  As for your first point, I believe he created a tariff, he did not block imports. And can you provide a source for your second claim? I’ve not heard that statistic before.

                  Edit: and to be clear, yeah his tariff sucks ass but it might be good long term because it will help shift American production to greener products instead of just offloading that to green products made elsewhere and shipped here dirtily.

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        I was hoping that people could see trump presidency vs Biden presidency and see the difference, but it looks like that’s not enough.

        The masses unfortunately don’t vote off platform, they vote off feelings.

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      True. Harris isn’t even a particularly strong candidate. People just want anything except the two old codgers.

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      Weirdest part is people being surprised…

      They still don’t get how much Joe was holding the party back. Anyone else would have seen these same gains

      go back 3 weeks ago to see all the people outside lemmy.world trying to make everyone aware that biden was the wrong horse for this race and marvel at how it pissed everyone on lemmy.world off for saying so.

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        I remember. We were all essentially called secret Republicans. Guess all of the people causing Harris’s polling to go up must all be secret Republicans as well because they sure didn’t support Biden as hard.

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          There is a difference between the emotional masses that go off “energy” and the supposed logical leftists here that think they are the essence of logic and will logically not vote because they are logically waiting for the logical platform and blah blah blah.

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            emotional masses that go off “energy” and the supposed logical leftists here that think they are the essence of logic

            You are calling most of the country bandwagoners and the left most people here self-righteous idiots. Everyone’s at fault but the guy running? Now, it’s time for the other ridiculous candidate to get his.

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              I wouldn’t use any of those words. Most people go off “feel”, that’s not the same as bandwagon. But anyway it was mostly about the supposed logical leftists I see here that don’t understand how to move the overton window.

              Who said everyone’s fault? (you seem to be extending that to literally everyone now.) What I had to do a ton of was telling people the way you progress and move the overton window is by voting Dems and making sure they don’t lose. See what happened when Gore lost and when Hillary lost? Now where would things be if they had won? Surprise (not a surprise): further left. Nor was it Bidens “fault”, he’s been a great president and there’s no blaming him like you seem to suggest.

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                I don’t understand what you mean by “feel” then but I do apologize for putting words in your mouth. I watched some videos on the overton window effect but I could have a misconception of how it works.

                Rights for LGBT and abortion have been put out there for a while. I can’t see how Hilary who thought both of these sets of rights as state issues was going to help? How would Hilary move public opinion on these issues to the left? Is it because she would have picked more moderate judges? But at the same time, it seems this overton window idea says the politician is not the one shifting the window (the majority of the time).

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                  You don’t know what feel is? You think Hillary would have appointed judges that overturned Roe (that’s what would have been necessary)? Hillary vs trump and you don’t understand how things would have wound up more progressive over time with Hilary winning, when they went off the cliff to the right when trump won? Yeah I have a hard time thinking this is a good faith discussion.

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              Most of “the left” on Lemmy has consistently demonstrated that they are self righteous idiots.

              I guess some of them are actual propagandists. And some of them are children.

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          i got “chinese shill” and “as a black man” most often for sharing how biden has fucked mine and thousands of other lives.

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    If this slide can continue to the election, that’s cool. I’m not so sure this Harris surge will last though.

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      The only thing that really matters is PA. If GOP wins PA, they win election. Right now it’s neck and neck with Trump a little ahead.

      Kamala was always going to be up in national polls and she will always win national vote.

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    Ha good luck with that. The Dook of Orange has all the flexibility of a glass block, and is about as transparent.

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      I mean, the dude is nearly as addicted to social media as Musk so it’s entirely possible he’ll read their tweets. But take their advice? Yeah, no, the guy is a narcissist, he doesn’t need advice from anyone.

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    Where have they been? Trump has never focused on actual policy. Now they want him to do something that he’s never before been able to do? Weird.

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    No, no, you’re doing great! Keep making a big deal about her ethnicity, you’ve almost got all the black voters convinced to stay home!

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      Republicans always want to “change things back” to an era they romanticize. It doesn’t matter if their “change” wasn’t an option before, such as a president having absolute immunity. In other words, they love making changes but somehow get away with saying they are reverting things to a status that never was.

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      How’s that hopey, changey thing working out for ya?

      -Palin (the maverickiest con of all mavericks ever to have mavericked)

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        I don’t know how he could even change course without digging a deeper hole. There’s no way he can possibly convince people that he’s not an overtly racist nincompoop without saying something overtly racist and coming off sounding like a nincompoop. We’ve seen him try and try again

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            Repubs fully embracing Donald’s overt bigotry is what finally clued me in to the fact that they are all hateful. They love it. They want him to enrage their opponents.

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            Problem isn’t convincing people that he’s racist. The problem is convincing people that it matters.

            I’d argue that a more pressing concern is convincing people that it isn’t a good thing, not that it matters

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                I think they’re two different kinds of people though. Some seem to think that racism isn’t a problem anymore and it literally doesn’t matter, and some think that racism was never a problem in the first place and is actually something we should strive for (because something something superior race something)

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