This is what “Past Tense” was really warning us about.
But still write dates wrong
Year-Month-Day is the only way. It’s chronological!
And rhymes
day should be first because it’s the one that changes the most often and we read left to right.
Next you’re going to suggest that 2000 should come immediately after 1000 (instead of 1001) because we read left-to-right.
People be hatin but I agree. in instances where the only goal is for a human to read the date, dd-mm-yyyy or even dd mmm(m) yyyy are better UX.
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use YYYY MM DD in the backend then.
I agree.
Putting the year first makes archiving easier. Your computer literally puts everything in order that way. Day first, and it will be sorted by the most frequently changing element.
Also year first allows you to timestamp your files, so they are sorted by what time you created them that day.
Sorting by day, at the end of the year you’ll have files from the first day of each month grouped together, then the second day, and so on. Still searchable, but not as orderly.
yea but I was talking in the context of a clock. for the uses you described YYYY MM DD is obviously better
August 30 would be 30.08.2024.
2024-08-30, but yes. Is that a German notation? Boo! ISO8601/RFC3339 or DEAAAAATH!
Nope, 2024-08-30
This is the only rational order, descending in order of magnitude.
How do you abbreviate a date in YYYY/MM/DD format?
In the DD/MM/YYYY format I can tell someone I am available to meet on 26/07; the year is known contextually as it only changes once a year.
If I start to tell people I am available 26/07 am I available for all of July in 2026?
07-26, surely?
YY/MM/DD or casual short MM/DD (where the year is understood). It’s no different, you just skip the year if it’s a given 😄 But for archival purposes, file naming etc, the YYYY part is mandatory.
Wait really? Your first example is also ambiguous for 12 years out of every 100
Nope, it’s 30 \ 24 / 08
way to long just short it down: 3248
clearly the best way to show date
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This should be obvious, but just in case people take this seriously. It’ a joke
Relevant XKCD
That would probably kick off riots
Delay it until January, kill two birds with one stone.
Hmm, that certainly does have a certain ring to it.
Far more likely that whoever installed the clock just forgot to change the units.
I wish.
Just start being that pedantic asshole that people hate, and insist on using it. When someone asks what the temperature is, give it to em in c and make them do the conversion.
I set all my stuff to metric years ago and use it pretty much exclusively. I don’t actually make other people convert, I do it for em. But still.
Cook in metric and use a scale!
Bake in metric and rejoice when recipes actually work!
wait you don’t use scales when cooking???
From what I can tell Americans used to use scales for dry measures (in ounces) but somewhere along the line, they switched to volume measures for everything.
As a Canadian, it’s really frustrating because often will get the American versions of UK cookbooks here which are both not metric and not weights.
I enjoy my Australian cookbooks with metric weights.
Yeah, it’s sort of rare outside of, like, foodies and and YouTubers to use weight for cooking. We switched to it about a decade back, and it’s been amazing. That’s actually what got me to switch to metric for just about everything.
I’ve been doing that. I’m noticing it working. People around me may not like it, but they’ve figured out about how much a meter is
It works pretty good, and you eventually you figure out which of your friends don’t actually like you! Lmao
Also state your height in cm.
Us metric people usually say it in meters. I’m one meter 86.
Leave off the word “metre” and it doesn’t matter whether you’re using metres or cm. You’re “one eighty-six”. Is that a lazy way of saying “one [hundred and] eighty-six”, quite common when talking about numbers in the hundreds, or the lazy way of saying “one [metre] eighty-six [centimetres]”, a common shorthand similar to shortening “six [feet] five [inches]”? The answer is it doesn’t matter!
Unless you’re reaaaally small
I’m one eighty six… kilometers!
How do you manage to avoid the NSA satellites hitting your head?
I’m American and that’s how I’ve started giving my height. I’m 191.
I use metric temperature when I talk to my kids. Now they give me a hard time when I give them a Fahrenheit value! Keeps me honest I guess. I’ve also got my oldest using a 24 hour clock.
Temperature was the first thing that really clicked for me, and the only one I never have to think about to translate, I just “know” what the temperature is both. I learned it by thinking of it as percentages. 0 is freezing, 0% of boiling. 100 is boiling, 100% of boiling. Lol. 30-40% of boiling is hot, and pretty good for a bath. Haha
I never understood why people get their panties in a twist when I use 24h times. I get that it’s confusing if I drop the colon and just write 1854, but 18:54 isn’t that hard to figure out, is it?
Edit: Corrected 25h to 24h, thanks to MindTraveller for
mockingpointing out my errorI’m never going to get used to twenty five hour times.
Fuck, I missed that typo
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I think our whole timeline spans from some Romulan plot about something involving handing a compilation of Federation history to some weird guy… What was his name? Gene Roddenberry?
Star Trek really was overly optimistic.
Star Trek future now!
Hey, did anybody remember to turn off skynet yesterday before 2:13 AM?
Well I’m still breathing, so I guess so.
Maybe they were attending number 15 o C at that processing center.
Oh shit are the bell riots happening rn? I gotta get prepped
They start this Sunday.
But today is Friday
Don’t tell me… Tuesday.
This was something I found strange in the new Alien: Romulus film, why were the temperature readings in a science vessel for a space faring civilisation in Fahrenheit!?
They all keep dying in Alien films though, so it tracks with the level of incompetence shown elsewhere.
I’m with the whole ‘metric is better crowd’, I mean base 10, c’mon that makes shit easy. On the other hand, I prefer Fahrenheit for temp 100%, Celsius is just not good for it (personal preference I guess). A lot of that is probably due to growing up in the USA, but having lived in a few other countries I just prefer Fahrenheit.
Edit: dang ya’ll, didn’t mean to cause all the drama, I’ll calm down now… I guess personal preferences get taken as personal attacks sometimes lol
The increased measurement in the Fahrenheit scale allows for more precise representation of the temperature between humans.
Whole numbers and a larger scale for human ranges.
That said, the same thing can be done with metric by using the magical
decimal, though idk if I’ve ever seen a temperature in C related that way.For weather prediction it usually isn’t that accurate anyway, and varies over time and location a lot.
For the thermostat it does matter, but usually you can set these in steps of 0.5°C. Mine reports back in 0.1°C steps.
That said, the same thing can be done with metric by using the magical decimal, though idk if I’ve ever seen a temperature in C related that way.
People using Celsius that ever cared that temperatures didn’t add decimals for increased precision in weather reports, please raise your hand.
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Having grown up with Fahrenheit there is a difference between 78 degrees (26ish) and 80 (still 26ish)
The increased granularity for human ranges actually is noticeable.
If you think I’m advocating for Standard over Metric than you’ve wholly misunderstood me.
The metric SYSTEM is hands down the better of the two.
78 F is 25 C and 80 F is 26 C.
Just saying “ish” doesn’t suddenly make them the same. In C they are different numbers.
There is a difference. Does it matter? Eeeeh…
What? 1 °C is absolutely a fine enough stepping for everything the average human will want to convey about temperature.
Some people actually think they can tell the difference between 70 and 72 Fahrenheit and those people could save a lot of money on medications by switching entirely to placebos for everything.
Quick Celsius breakdown from a Canadian:
- 40+ - most Canadians stop eating food and hope for a quick death
- 35 - you might just be able to live with this if you do nothing at all
- 28 - right about the place where comfort gives way to a general sense of warmth, something that makes any Canadian uncomfortable
- 23 - room temperature, and why “room temperature IQ” is an insult only Americans could have come up with because their scale was made by a madman
- 15 - If it’s Autumn you are wearing a light jacket, if it’s Spring you are sweating
- 5 - sweater time
- 0 to -10 - that stereotypical TV winter experience, where everyone is skating and sipping hot chocolate? Yeah that’s like half the year here. You better like hot chocolate.
- -15 - We enjoy the fresh air, others will probably find it painful to breathe directly; put on a scarf! Do not brush your teeth immediately before going outside unless you want to experience mint-flavoured pain.
- -20 - Canadians put their boots on by now. Exposed skin on a windy day can get frostbite in as little as 10 minutes.
- -30 - We will debate putting a coat on to put the garbage out at this temperature, usually erring on the side of caution in case your kids lock you outside again. Seriously invest in good winter gear for this, this temperature can kill surprisingly fast and it only gets increasingly unpleasant from here.
- -40 - turns out you can’t form snowballs in hell because the snow is too crispy
@CancerMancer @ITGuyLevi i once went on a TV shoot near Winnipeg with a reporter who thought it pretty funny that i was wearing a hat when it was only -20 and windy
@CancerMancer @ITGuyLevi Also, at -20 C, your nose hairs freeze and you can feel it. You /are/breathing through your nose at this tempeeature right? You don’t want the rest of your airways to freeze.
@CancerMancer
Very much depends on both the humidex and wind chill. Basically, it’s the ‘feels like’ temperature that matters rather than the literal one.I live in one of the more humid areas of Canada and when people tell you it can’t get humid when it’s that cold I wonder if they’ve ever experienced how the cold can just cut right through your clothes.
Summer humidity is absolutely the worst though, and people die here every year because of it.
@CancerMancer
I spent my summers in Toronto growing up, but never experienced a Toronto winter until I moved there. I’d experienced –40 in Edmonton. But I’d never experienced –10 in Toronto!
15c better be the temp inside the building, because it sure as shit is hotter anywhere else.
They could be in New Zealand or Chile, if they hadn’t referenced The US… Maybe they are in Nome, AK
Holy shit looked up the temps in San Francisco and yes it’s 15C
America officially switched to the metric system decades ago. We just don’t use it on a daily basis, but officially the US is metric.
In 1988 Congress passed the Omnibus Trade and Competitiveness Act, which made the metric system the preferred system of weights and measures for U.S. trade and commerce.
In 1991 President Bush issued Executive Order 12770, which mandated the transition to metric measurement for all federal agencies.
I remember learning all metric in elementary school in the early to mid 80s much to my mother’s chagrin (any thing I learned that was different than what/how she learned in Catholic school was bad, including a second language). Then having to relearn standard in middle school. I still have to count all of the lines on a tape measure.
As a metric-raised guy I find extremely difficult following the tutorials of woodworkers that start putting 2feet 3 inches and 9/16 in the measurements that converts to 700,0875mm wich i guess is an approximation of 70cms
Things like woodworking are exactly where the imperial system came from. Because daily usable lengths like a foot are using base 12 not base 10, it can be divided much more evenly even before needing fractions.
I was taught the metric system in US Schools in the late 80s and 90s.
Sure we don’t use it daily but I still know it.
I know that I need to convert to it and how to convert to it if necessary.
For anything that’s not interacting with a human I’d use the metric system, for anything interacting with a human I’d display both.
I want a 473ml of beer, please and thank you.
That’s called a can. Can I have a can of beer.
Also known as “Not enough” XD
Bullshit. ISO 8601 IS THE SUPERIOR DATE STANDARD
Tomorrow is 2024-08-30. DEAL WITH IT.This is the ideal file date format for sure.
Metric is about measurements, not formatting. The date measurement is in days, months, and years for both ISO 8601 and what’s shown.
I always prefer it without the dashes. And just add on HHMMSS while we’re at it!
Stardate, 2024-08-30T06:34:17.993Z
1725020287 is the true time as of right now
Hilariously, Star treks “stardates” are not uniform. The format shifts season to season and show to show.
It’s standardized now
