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    You’re right, a 4090 costs 2-3 consoles.

    Let’s assume the 3060 costs 180 Dollars (no idea what those go for). Add 150 for a decent CPU, 40 for 16 GB of memory. Another 80 for a Mainboard for a total of 180+150+40+80=450 USD. You also need a case, a power supply and mass storage. Your math doesn’t check out, even with the humble specs those Dollars will buy you.

    I’m not trying to sell you a console here, far from it. I’m just saying if you want a rig that outperforms a console, it will be in the 4-digits. A mid range GPU alone will be 400-500 nowadays.

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      Add 150 for a decent CPU, 40 for 16 GB of memory. Another 80 for a Mainboard for a total of 180+150+40+80=450 USD

      You could have at least spent 2 minutes looking up prices instead of making stuff up. A Ryzen 5600 is $110 and a compatible motherboard $50. That CPU outperforms the PS5 and Xbox Series X by a big margin

      I’m just saying if you want a rig that outperforms a console, it will be in the 4-digits.

      No, you don’t. Here is a list that I quickly threw together. It has a much better CPU and GPU than current gen consoles, and 1TB of SSD storage, for “only” $550

      PCPartPicker Part List

      Type Item Price
      CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor $114.83 @ Amazon
      Motherboard ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $59.99 @ Amazon
      Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $29.99 @ Newegg
      Storage TEAMGROUP MS30 1 TB M.2-2280 SATA Solid State Drive $46.99 @ Amazon
      Video Card Gigabyte EAGLE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card $199.97 @ Newegg
      Case Thermaltake V100 Perforated ATX Mid Tower Case $47.99 @ Best Buy
      Power Supply EVGA 500 W1 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $47.99 @ Amazon
      Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
      Total $547.75
      Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-11 10:35 EDT-0400
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            What are you taking about? Your barebones configuration is a hundred dollars more than the standard PS5 years after its initial release. The PS 5 Pro (subject of your link) promises significantly more power than the original model and costs significantly more. You cannot compare that to your bare bones gaming PC. A gaming PC that promises way more bang than your 5600+6600 combo is significantly more expensive than the PS5 Pro.

            Your hastily assembled list will maybe do 1080p60 in more recent games, severely limited by the GPU and its 8GB of VRAM. That was good when I got my 430 EUR Vega 56 back in 2017. Today? Not so great.

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              I’m a third party in this chat, not Anivia@feddit.org.

              Your initial comment here was pointing out that a component of a computer build is as expensive as an entire console. Valid point, though it does ignore that the component you had in mind is superior to what Sony’s put into their machine. It’s not really an apples to apples comparison. More like an apple from the grocery compared to picking a basket of apples from an orchard.

              You seem to be pointing out that higher performance per dollar is possible with a high end computer. This is correct.

              Anivia on the other hand was only saying that for the same money or less as a Playstation 5 Pro, you can get more performance by spending your dollars on a computer instead of a console. This is correct.

              You two seem to be saying the same thing: Sony’s console is overpriced for what it is, and a better experience can be had going with a pc.

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                Anivia on the other hand was only saying that for the same money or less as a Playstation 5 Pro, you can get more performance by spending your dollars on a computer instead of a console. This is correct.

                I’d like to argue that you can’t get as much or more performance by spending the 700 dollars on a gaming PC. I’d be glad to be proven wrong when the first PS 5 Pro benchmarks are published, however.

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                  He just proved it above when he made a pc for 550$. He was using the Ps5 Pro as a standard.

                  This all boils down to; The Ps5pro is overpriced, and for 200$ cheaper, you could buy a PC that will outperform it.

                  Not to mention the PS5 doesn’t have any exclusives that would make an upgrade worth it.

                  (Also, huge steam deck fan boy. I’ve played all the “PS exclusives” on it, easily, for cheaper than a PS, and more ways to enjoy it)

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                    The Ps5pro is overpriced, and for 200$ cheaper, you could buy a PC that will outperform it.

                    How would you know that?

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        Not relevant. Games for consoles are much more optimized because there are just a few configurations.

        A PC with similar specs as a console will very likely have worse performance if you compare them.

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          You also have less ability to mod the games so you lose out on some of those features. For example doing is level FSR like the steam deck.

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              One reason I mentioned the steam decks FSR feature. Which is a really cool example of this to me. Of wise spread automatic modding making every game that can run on the system potentially better with no additional effort from the dev.

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        Only thing you have to consider is, that a B450 Motherboard isn’t out of the box compatible with a Ryzen 5, but an out of the box compatible Motherboard isn’t that much more expensive.