Saying that you could stand out in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody dead I did not affect your campaign should equally have been political suicide.
Political suicide is dead.
It was intentional. They are doing everything possible to bait Harris into a mistake and distract voters from Trump being too frail to campaign. Trump voters are already racist shitbags. The strategy here is to make Harris seem shrill and unreasonable.
Also, all attention is good attention. That has been the rule of the Trump campaign since day one.
I have seen so many articles about Donald Trump in the last week, and I’m not sure I have even seen one about Kamala Harris. Unfortunately, the media and the online public are both very easy to bait into giving Trump free publicity.
Right. His whole McDonald’s stunt was wild how effective it was. We all made fun of it, but it was a net positive for him from all the headlines.
This is exactly it - I’m on Lemmy, a place that’s probably 35 percentage points more left than the average US space, and the entire feed is similar stories about this rally. The media has learned nothing and in 3 years American journalism may be dead - regulated into state-approved propaganda like in Russia - because of it.
The media is a business, and clicks are currency. Trump is good for business. It’s that simple.
They are doing everything possible to bait Harris into a mistake
super walz to the rescue. seems like he has played the VP attack dog role pretty smartly. loud enough to make headlines with reasonably pointed attacks, while being “clean” enough to deflect incoming.
The strategy here is to make Harris seem shrill and unreasonable.
The idea that calling out bigotry as unacceptable can be ‘shrill and unreasonable’ is so ridiculous that I want to disbelieve you, except that I know enough about the world to know that it happens.
You can post online that you’re upset that Israel is killing innocent people, and be told that saying that is ‘Russian propaganda’ etc. Anything can be spun as unacceptable, I guess.
Unless people go out an vote, it won’t be suicide. They’re just pandering to their base. The Dems need to participate and not go on good feels a la 2016.
he’s not planning to “win” by votes…
Yeah, but he’s not in power unlike 2016. Yes, we should watch for and be ready to react within the law to fake elector schemes, collaborating with hostile foreign interests, inciting coups and violence, etc but if we do, there’s fuck-all he can do about it. Trumpism dies with his political career. In the final stretch, let’s reject him with so many votes they can’t possibly claim another “stolen” election!
6 senators and 121 representatives (all Republican) objected to certifying Arizona’s results in the hours after the insurrection at the capitol on Jan 6th. He also has 6 justices on the Supreme Court who have already ruled that he’s above the law. Unfortunately he doesn’t need to be in power if he’s being propped up by those who do.
My concern is that Trump is defeated in the election, declared is stolen, and we do react within the law to fight it, but Trump is declared President by the House of Representatives and the Supreme Court anyway. Once Project 2025 starts rolling out as policy, how many of us are then willing to start reacting outside of the new law? Most Germans were not fervent supporters of the Nazi party. They just didn’t want to get in trouble with the ruling government. Are you willing to risk your life to fight the fascists? Are you willing to risk the lives of your family? Or do you learn to survive with your head down and not make waves…
Not calling anyone out for anything, but I often have to wonder about how I would react now that it keeps getting closer to reality.
Yeah man that’s probably what’s going to happen. It Worked for Bush against Gore when margins were close, and the supreme Court is even more stacked in their favor now. This is looking to be a similarly close race. My only question is will libs throw their hands up in defeat and let their last facade of democracy die or fight back in some way.
It’s a week before the election. Mark my words, he WILL shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any voters.
It’ll be the final sacrifice, the saying was just part of a larger prophecy.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-racist-nyc-rally-was-vile-it-was-also-political-suicide/
Was it though
Ah, well, nevertheless
One would think stealing and potentially selling sensible documents or a failed coup or the countless sexual allegations are political suicides. But now a racist clown will get him?
It Was Also Political Suicide
DEAR GOD PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE!!!
Narrator - “it wasnt”
Lol, mocking a disabled reporter, bragging about sexual assault, praising Hitler and trying to overturn an election wasn’t political suicide, stop trying to predict last straws for his career, there is no bottom.
I caught the tail end of the story on NPR about how he apologized for one of the jokes and I just assumed it was one of the Nazi Rally jokes and was like “wow the nazi thing is finally getting some traction” but no it was the Puerto Rico thing.
I cannot express how ready I am for this shit to go away.
If he wins I swear I’m going to post a collage of these moronic article titles claiming gg ez a week before elections.
Feels 1:1 like 2016.
The headline was stupid and it doesn’t match the article. The article was not nearly as categorical, And said that the points in the speech are red meat for his base but likely to turn off undecided voters
That’s because 3/4 of the FSB intelligence department is rotting in a crater somewhere in Ukraine.
Paywall. Archive link please.
Donald Trump has committed like, a couple dozen political suicides and stood back up, which is fucking alarming.
It helps him drastically that his supporters do not consider the same things that the media does as “political suicide”. They instead see it as yet more reasons to support him, because he is everything they want to be: rich, powerful bastards with the willingness and shamelessness to be the most terrible version of themselves as possible. All because they hate poor people and minorities more than the rich fucks who are ACTUALLY fucking them over.
That man is politically immortal. There is nothing he can do to “commit political suicide”.
Exactly. Just like the other hundreds of disqualifying things.
He can lose, repeatedly. But that doesn’t really end Trumpism. It just mutates the brand into Republicans who can pitch themselves as “winners”.
A big problem with Lincoln Project Republicanism is that it doesn’t refute the fundamental fascist tenants of Trumpism (the xenophobia, the white nationalist Christiandom, anti-Democratic sentiments). They just pitch Trump as on the wrong side of foreign policy (not hawkish enough on Russia or China).
So we end up with Trump on one end and Ted Cruz on the other, as our range of conservative options.
Things have definitely changed and there’s republicans agitating to just blow it all up and start over. The old party wasn’t great but it was at least loyal.
there’s republicans agitating to just blow it all up and start ove
There are Republicans who lost their primaries and want their seats back. But they aren’t going to throw away Reaganism to defeat Trumpism.
Everyone calls it Reagan, but he just did what Republicans were saying they wanted for decades already. In fact I’m not sure where the Republicans could fall back to ideologically. Ever since the Dixie Flip they’ve pretty much built their entire party around racism and religious extremism.
In fact I’m not sure where the Republicans could fall back to ideologically.
At the heart of every Republican is a British Tory who desperately wants an American King.
Ever since the Dixie Flip they’ve pretty much built their entire party around racism and religious extremism.
Republicanism, even back to Lincoln, was a theory of Industrial expansion. Modern Republicans simply have nowhere else to expand into.
Racism and religious extremism are about re-colonizing the interior a second time, with a smaller and more “pure” cohort of settlers.
But without the large locus of dense population like the party had when it was dominant in the metropoles, that’s increasingly difficult to accomplish.
What the GOP needs is a new Mecca (or, perhaps, a New New York). A large, population dense center of power to expand out of again. Maybe they’ve found that in Salt Lake City. Maybe they’ve found it in the increasingly right wing Texas capital of Austin. Or in Silicon Valley. Or in Tel Aviv. Maybe they’ll rediscover New York (Eric Adams and Andrew Cuomo certainly suggest fascism still plays well in the Big Apple).
But Settler Colonialism 2 is the dream.
That’s an interesting way to look at it. I’m not sure they need a single city though, the analogy kind of falls apart if you take it too far. But the whole restricting voting rights to white Christian men married with kids could certainly be described as a new form of colonialism. It’s essentially apartheid, and that was an outgrowth of colonialism.
A new Mecca? The f’n MAGATs should shove off to Moscow.
aka “We’ve got Trump and Trump Lite, which would you prefer?”
Well what’s the difference?
Same calories Same awful foam Same horrible aftertaste Same miserable aroma
But the light version says the quiet part quietly.
Do you guys have trump zero?
I came to say something like “too bad this guy is a zombie, smells like one too.”
Unfortunately, I wish it was
However, right wing networks will skip the worst parts. Many of themwon’t even know about the open racism, and they’ll reframe the rest as humor, and claim Trump is hilarious.
It’s even worse than the Nazis because I bet nobody claimed Hitler was a comedian at the time
It’s scary to think how much more openly fucked his statements are going to be in the next few days and as an Aussie, I’m generally scared for you guys
Even if he loses you’ll be in danger most likely, and it will take years to recover from Trump
If he wins, it is genuinely possible there won’t be a few more years left for anyone (he has no problem taking down everyone with him)
Where will Trump voters hear about the negatives? The 4th estate is not something they have any regard for or they wouldn’t be on the fence. Newsmax, OAN, Fox, etc will all ignore the racism
