Hoy, todos los que amamos este bello Jardín de América, y del mundo- nos duelen las entrañas y el corazón se nos aprieta de rabia y de dolor. Este es un pueblo noble y pacífico, que ama profundamente a su isla.
Puerto Rico is not autonomous. In Puerto Rico v. Sanchez Valle, the US Supreme Court found that sovereignty of Puerto Rico ultimately resides in the United States Congress. The US Congress can pass a law for Puerto Rico and there is nothing anyone in the Puerto Rican government can do about it. US Congress has ultimate control over Puerto Rico (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROMESA as an example). That isn’t autonomous.
“If Congress chose to alter Puerto Rico’s political status, it could do so through statute regardless of whether a plebiscite were held or what sentiment such a vote revealed.” Political Status of Puerto Rico: Brief Background and Recent Developments for Congress (https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R44721/7)
…you may actually want to read the first few paragraphs of the link you posted. Perhaps you could quickly copy/paste the section you think supports your assertion?
All states and territories have their own local government. They still operate under the US federal government. Your stubborn ignorance doesn’t make Puerto Rico another country.
Puerto Ricans are United States citizens, they use United States dollar as a currency, they pay United States taxes, and they have a representative in Congress.
It’s not a state. It’s not a territory. To be so, it would need congressional approval. It is a separate country of US citizens. And not the only one. Sorry, if this reality doesn’t conform with your imagination
Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States and Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens; however, Puerto Rico is not a U.S. state, but a U.S. insular area
I did, yet it didn’t force me to start hallucinating that Puerto Rico is not part of the US. It’s almost as if I saw the facts rather than what I wished to to confirm my own biases.
Of course, that changes nothing. As many other others have also told you, Puerto Rico is a part of the United States and not a separate country. Several have even given you proof. In your delusion, either you cannot accept being wrong or you cannot accept a reality.
As I’ve already mentioned, every state and Commonwealth in the United States has its own government. They all, including the government of Puerto Rico, operate under the United States federal government.
There is literally nothing you can do to change that. Although psychologist are pretty good at dealing with delusional people. Perhaps you should speak to one of them.
I’m not American or weighing in on this, but I don’t think country is a legal term nor mutually exclusive with being a territory. England is a country despite being governed by the UK. Greenland is the same.
A country is a distinct part of the world, such as a state, nation, or other political entity. When referring to a specific polity, the term “country” may refer to a sovereign state, states with limited recognition, constituent country, or a dependent territory.[1][2][3][4] Most sovereign states, but not all countries, are members of the United Nations.[5] There is no universal agreement on the number of “countries” in the world since several states have disputed sovereignty status, limited recognition and a number of non-sovereign entities are commonly considered countries.[6][5]
The definition and usage of the word “country” are flexible and have changed over time. The Economist wrote in 2010 that “any attempt to find a clear definition of a country soon runs into a thicket of exceptions and anomalies.”[7]
Again, I am not making a claim about whether PR is a country specifically, just that being a territory does not disqualify it.
As a sovereign nation, we can define our own legal terms.
I also find it somewhat amusing that someone from outside of this country with professed knowledge or expertise such as you do. It’s mostly losing because you’re wrong.
It’s a separate state (as in it has its own government), but so do US States. That clearly doesn’t exclude it from being in the US. It is a part of the US though, in that their citizens are US citizens. It is absolutely a part of the US, even though it is not a member-state. Their president is whoever the president of the US is.
(You may recall Trump, after a hurricane, saying something stupid about the president of Puerto Rico needing to do something, which is dumb because he was the president of Puerto Rico.)
A state has nothing to do with being part of the United States. Most states are not members of the United States. A state is a government. That’s all. The United States name comes from the fact that they were individual governments who formed a larger union of governments. Any government is called a state.
It depends on context, in the case of Puerto Rico it’s an unincorporated territory of the United States and is designated as a Commonwealth. Since 1953 due to resolution 748 the United Nations classified PR as non-governing territory of the United States. Technically PR hold both a Nation state and Commonwealth state according to the US federal government, but the Commonwealth or Territory designation takes precedence over the Nation designation. This is simply because the United States Federal government decrees it, which is why the subject is controversial among Boricuas, as many people feel they should succeed from the United States, while others are happy to be a territory or commonwealth of the United States as many have assimilated into American culture.
So on paper Puerto Rico could be considered a country, but in practice, due to the over site and will of the US federal government, Puerto Rico is a unincorporated territory of US citizens, who don’t have to pay federal taxes and have no representational within the rest of the United States, they can only effect their own internal governing body.
In many ways this is a travesty, but in other ways Puerto Ricans enjoy the protection of the US, both in defense and travel, as the US passport is very useful throughout the world, as well as economically due to the strength and stability of the dollar, without being constantly subjected to federal law.
Here is a list of Sovereign States. Which you will not find Puerto Rico listed as it own Sovereign State but rather it will be listed as an inhabited possession of one of the 13 unincorporated territories of the Sovereign State (country) United States of America.
What makes a country a country is the agreement of surrounding countries that a specific land is a country. No other country on Earth considers Puerto Rico a Sovereign State (country). It also is not considered contested, or controversial. It is globally accepted that Puerto Rico is not a country, nor has it ever been one, as before it’s discovery by Spain it was part of early Taino tribes within the Caribbean islands and then forcefully colonized, before being given as a consolation to the United States by Spain in 1898.
No ones calling it a state. You’re calling the island a country it is not a country not any more it is an American territory. Are they taxed without representation? Like Dc? Is dc a country?
Most certainly not a state, and has its own government. It’s a separate country.
Okay, you’ve shown that the first part of your statement is correct (that NO ONE has contested). Explain how PR is a separate country, as you have asserted. Or you can just say you were wrong. It’s okay.
I don’t know if you’re trolling, but if not all of the 50 states also hold elections to form a government. That doesn’t preclude them from being a part of the US.
Bruh I’m not gonna keep going with you. the link talks about Puerto Ricans voting for kamala. You’re talking about people that live on the the island voting. Not the same step up your critical thinking
Most certainly not a state, and has its own government. It’s a separate country.
Washington DC is not a state, and has it’s own government… Seperate Country?
Here’s a clue f9r you. What does the DC stand for in Washington DC?
Puerto Rico had been owned by the United States since the US took it during the Spanish-American War in 1898. It is part of the US. There have been multiple votes asking if they want to become an official state of the US. Other countries don’t get the choice to become US states. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territories_of_the_United_States#Incorporated_vs._unincorporated_territories
You’re getting closer, but it’s not a US possession. It’s a protectorite not incorporated into the US and autonomous
Puerto Rico is not autonomous. In Puerto Rico v. Sanchez Valle, the US Supreme Court found that sovereignty of Puerto Rico ultimately resides in the United States Congress. The US Congress can pass a law for Puerto Rico and there is nothing anyone in the Puerto Rican government can do about it. US Congress has ultimate control over Puerto Rico (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROMESA as an example). That isn’t autonomous.
“If Congress chose to alter Puerto Rico’s political status, it could do so through statute regardless of whether a plebiscite were held or what sentiment such a vote revealed.” Political Status of Puerto Rico: Brief Background and Recent Developments for Congress (https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R44721/7)
The Supreme Court of the United States of America would disagree with you.
It’s not a territory unless Congress makes it so. When did that happen? Never.
Foraker Act
Your stubborn ignorance does not make you right.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insular_area
It’s just proves what everyone here has been telling you. That you’re wrong.
I’m sorry for your mental health struggles. Best of luck to you with that.
Actually it proves I’m right. But, whatever makes you sleep a5 night
Once again, I’m sorry to hear about your mental health struggles. Best of luck with that.
…you may actually want to read the first few paragraphs of the link you posted. Perhaps you could quickly copy/paste the section you think supports your assertion?
if I put my finger on the barrel, puerto rico isn’t a territory
All states and territories have their own local government. They still operate under the US federal government. Your stubborn ignorance doesn’t make Puerto Rico another country.
Puerto Ricans are United States citizens, they use United States dollar as a currency, they pay United States taxes, and they have a representative in Congress.
It’s not a state. It’s not a territory. To be so, it would need congressional approval. It is a separate country of US citizens. And not the only one. Sorry, if this reality doesn’t conform with your imagination
Your hallucinations do not comport with reality:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Puerto_Rico
Did you read that?
I did, yet it didn’t force me to start hallucinating that Puerto Rico is not part of the US. It’s almost as if I saw the facts rather than what I wished to to confirm my own biases.
Try this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Government_of_Porto_Rico
Of course, that changes nothing. As many other others have also told you, Puerto Rico is a part of the United States and not a separate country. Several have even given you proof. In your delusion, either you cannot accept being wrong or you cannot accept a reality.
As I’ve already mentioned, every state and Commonwealth in the United States has its own government. They all, including the government of Puerto Rico, operate under the United States federal government.
There is literally nothing you can do to change that. Although psychologist are pretty good at dealing with delusional people. Perhaps you should speak to one of them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insular_area
I’m not American or weighing in on this, but I don’t think country is a legal term nor mutually exclusive with being a territory. England is a country despite being governed by the UK. Greenland is the same.
If we look at the wiki for Country
Again, I am not making a claim about whether PR is a country specifically, just that being a territory does not disqualify it.
As a sovereign nation, we can define our own legal terms.
I also find it somewhat amusing that someone from outside of this country with professed knowledge or expertise such as you do. It’s mostly losing because you’re wrong.
How’s that supposed to work?
Same as it worked in Panama.
It’s a separate state (as in it has its own government), but so do US States. That clearly doesn’t exclude it from being in the US. It is a part of the US though, in that their citizens are US citizens. It is absolutely a part of the US, even though it is not a member-state. Their president is whoever the president of the US is.
(You may recall Trump, after a hurricane, saying something stupid about the president of Puerto Rico needing to do something, which is dumb because he was the president of Puerto Rico.)
If it’s a state we now have 51
A state has nothing to do with being part of the United States. Most states are not members of the United States. A state is a government. That’s all. The United States name comes from the fact that they were individual governments who formed a larger union of governments. Any government is called a state.
So,yes, I understand your intended use of the word. What do you call a state on a defined piece of land?
It depends on context, in the case of Puerto Rico it’s an unincorporated territory of the United States and is designated as a Commonwealth. Since 1953 due to resolution 748 the United Nations classified PR as non-governing territory of the United States. Technically PR hold both a Nation state and Commonwealth state according to the US federal government, but the Commonwealth or Territory designation takes precedence over the Nation designation. This is simply because the United States Federal government decrees it, which is why the subject is controversial among Boricuas, as many people feel they should succeed from the United States, while others are happy to be a territory or commonwealth of the United States as many have assimilated into American culture.
So on paper Puerto Rico could be considered a country, but in practice, due to the over site and will of the US federal government, Puerto Rico is a unincorporated territory of US citizens, who don’t have to pay federal taxes and have no representational within the rest of the United States, they can only effect their own internal governing body.
In many ways this is a travesty, but in other ways Puerto Ricans enjoy the protection of the US, both in defense and travel, as the US passport is very useful throughout the world, as well as economically due to the strength and stability of the dollar, without being constantly subjected to federal law.
I will help you make it simple. It’s called a country. Which started this whole bunch of blather.
When a citizen travels from Puerto Rico to Colombia what countries name is on their passport?
To give more information, the word country is a generic term for Sovereign State.
Here is a list of Sovereign States. Which you will not find Puerto Rico listed as it own Sovereign State but rather it will be listed as an inhabited possession of one of the 13 unincorporated territories of the Sovereign State (country) United States of America.
What makes a country a country is the agreement of surrounding countries that a specific land is a country. No other country on Earth considers Puerto Rico a Sovereign State (country). It also is not considered contested, or controversial. It is globally accepted that Puerto Rico is not a country, nor has it ever been one, as before it’s discovery by Spain it was part of early Taino tribes within the Caribbean islands and then forcefully colonized, before being given as a consolation to the United States by Spain in 1898.
With all due respect you don’t know what you’re talking about
Source: am Puerto Rican
Is Puerto Rico a state? Has the US made it 51?
No ones calling it a state. You’re calling the island a country it is not a country not any more it is an American territory. Are they taxed without representation? Like Dc? Is dc a country?
So, not a state, not a territory.
Does Puerto Rico have elections to form a government?
Okay, you’ve shown that the first part of your statement is correct (that NO ONE has contested). Explain how PR is a separate country, as you have asserted. Or you can just say you were wrong. It’s okay.
Answer the question first. Does Puerto Rico hold elections to form a government?
I’ve made no claim here. I’m happy to answer your question once you finish justifying your underlying claim.
The answer you refuse to express is YES
So, not a territory. Not a state.
What do you call an area of land with a government? If not Country, what?
I don’t know if you’re trolling, but if not all of the 50 states also hold elections to form a government. That doesn’t preclude them from being a part of the US.
It’s not a state or territory
Bruh I’m not gonna keep going with you. the link talks about Puerto Ricans voting for kamala. You’re talking about people that live on the the island voting. Not the same step up your critical thinking
No, actually it’s a hometown newspaper aiming at Puerto Ricans living in the US.