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Donald Trump publicly supported Elon Musk’s defense of the H-1B visa program for skilled foreign tech workers, despite opposition from some of his far-right supporters.

The debate was reignited after Trump appointed Indian-American AI expert Sriram Krishnan as an adviser, sparking criticism from immigration hard-liners.

Musk, a former H-1B holder, argued the program is essential for U.S. tech, while critics like Steve Bannon claim it undercuts American wages.

This stance marks a shift from Trump’s earlier policies limiting H-1B visas, highlighting tensions within his base over immigration policy.

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    H1B employees are so valuable to these people because they can be bullied into working for less, working longer and threatened with deportation if they don’t comply and keep their mouth shut. Exploitation is the only reason for this.

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      all immigration is a net benefit, I’ve been waiting to see how, like every other right wing govt in the history of history, this one pretends they hate immigrants while not doing anything about it in a way that looks like they are doing something about it.

      And that’s it, that’s the gig.

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      He’s obviously one of those ‘my advisors told me this was so’ people. No credible opinion of his own.

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    Elon bought Trump, so this isn’t surprising.

    Also, it’s clear that Trump just regurgitates whatever slop Elon says because he thinks it will make him look smart.

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    Great, get rid of the immigrants who work at backbreaking, starvation wage jobs to keep food prices low and import H1B immigrants who will take all those good paying jobs.

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      He was legal later, when he finally got that h1b. At the beginning he was on a student visa that he very illegally overstayed, then paid to have things fixed.

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      Depends on if you’re a MAGA faithful or not. Because those are the folks that expect now that their votes mean nothing to him, to somehow still be important.

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    Well, there it is. The one fucking policy decision Trump made his first term that I agreed with and could point to as “see? I don’t hate everything Trump does just because he’s Trump,” was his reduction of H1B visas.

    Now I guess I can officially say I hate every single Trump policy. There is no silver lining. He makes the wrong decision every time.

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      What’s wrong with H1B visas? Or, well, I know what’s wrong with H1B visas but how is reducing them the right solutions to those problems?

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        The problem with tech workers isn’t there aren’t enough Americans willing or able to do the work, it’s that we bring in essentially indentured servants instead of just educating our own people and paying them. H1B visas are supposed to be the stopgap, not the solution.

        But they want stupid American consumers and voters and cheap and capable foreign worker drones. It’s disgusting the way the wealthy feed off of America like a pig trough.

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          The problem with tech workers isn’t there aren’t enough Americans willing or able to do the work, it’s that we bring in essentially indentured servants instead of just educating our own people and paying them

          That’s true, but I’d say making H1B visas not indentured servitude and requiring that H1B visa holders be paid the same as domestic workers would be a better way of solving this problem. America has historically thrived due to being the land of opportunity and it doesn’t seem wise to go back on that now.

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            I don’t have a problem with foreign workers at all. Most of my teams have been at least 50% foreign workers. Often more. And I’ve made some good relationships with folks I’m happy to recommend for any positions.

            I think the changes you suggest would fix the problem for everyone. The workers wouldn’t be so attractive for companies while still being available for hire. However, as currently implemented, I oppose any expansion to H1B.

            I spent 5 months out of work last year, and I’m not even particularly well paid (quite poorly, in fact, for a 28 year veteran) because I can’t move my family west. We clearly don’t need to bring in more cheaper labor.

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    In my country the far right distinguishes between legal immigrantes, who are cannon fodder for exploitative industry and therefore good, and illegal immigrants, who are criminals and need to be segregated in detection camps.

    Both types in any case ar discouraged from marrying the locals (public officers are resistant) and prevented from practicing their religion in public by local legislation (the national one is vague).

    For one time I feel my country is ahead of the US 🤣😅😭 maybe it is because we invented fas**sm after all.

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    I’m torn on this, I hate Bannon, but in the extreme right wing neo national socialism thinking he is consistent. And while he has power, it’s contained to some degree.

    But I think I hate Musk even more, despite the fact he acknowledges that america can’t thrive alone. His basically unlimited power is a very big problem for the whole world.

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      Elon doesn’t give a shit about America. Elon only gives a shit about his money bin, and he wants to make sure he has more coins to swim in.

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    Trump and musk are just giving all their fans a middle finger. And I doubt any of those simps will realize it.

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    … for now. If there’s one thing constant about Trump it’s that he doesn’t have any ideals. If there is pushback from his base he’ll fold.