• ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    The only ways you can fight climate change in any meaningful way with 10k also involve going to prison

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        I wouldn’t even want to be in an Austrian luxury prison. There’s a reason why people have went as far as dying while fighting for their freedom, it’s one of our most precious possessions.

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        Oh there’s rent. Most US prisons charge per diem rates for housing, and they charge for many “services” and they charge literal extortion rates. Prisoners leave US prisons deeeeeply in debt

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      10k is cutting it thin… the Accuracy International ACSR is just a hair under $10k USD… and that is before taxes. Then you need the 1,000-10,000 rounds of ammo for training before you become good enough to start taking out card-carrying members of the Parasite Class from a kilometre-plus distance.

      Now granted, you can go a lot cheaper than that, but accuracy and range will suffer. Remember, you want to be far enough away that you can reliably pack up and sanitize the scene before you leave.

      Alternatively, swarming AI drones in the hundreds, with on-board explosive packages, would allow you to deploy from abandonable emplacements that can loiter for many hours to even days. No-one is going to question a cube van that sits in a paid spot for a week, at least until it’s roof opens up and a thousand tiny drones with facial recognition take off and take out a few oligarchs.

      But honestly, you’re likely talking a few tens of thousands for that scenario, at minimum. I would likely bank at it being in the low hundreds of thousands for a truly effective and difficult-to-counter deployment.

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        I think that depends on your skill, i.e. good planning, and obviously execution. If you’re really good, you don’t even get caught, although that might help politically as we currently see with Mangione

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      10k is cutting it thin… the Accuracy International ACSR is just a hair under $10k USD… and that is before taxes. Then you need the 1,000-10,000 rounds of ammo for training before you become good enough to start taking out card-carrying members of the Parasite Class from a kilometre-plus distance.

      Now granted, you can go a lot cheaper than that, but accuracy and range will suffer. Remember, you want to be far enough away that you can reliably pack up and sanitize the scene before you leave.

      Alternatively, swarming AI drones in the hundreds, with on-board explosive packages, would allow you to deploy from abandonable emplacements that can loiter for many hours to even days. No-one is going to question a cube van that sits in a paid spot for a week, at least until it’s roof opens up and a thousand tiny drones with facial recognition take off and take out a few oligarchs.

      But honestly, you’re likely talking a few tens of thousands for that scenario, at minimum. I would likely bank at it being in the low hundreds of thousands for a truly effective and difficult-to-counter deployment.

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      3 days ago

      You’ll need 100 Musks

      To reach a catastrophic level on all kinds of scales - including climate change…

      If you mean the net-worth, you might be right, that amount of money might even have a measurable effect on human-made climate change.

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    5 days ago

    Put it in a bank that doesn’t invest your money into the wrong stuff. In fact a bank can loan more money than it has, but there’s a ratio set by law. So for example that could effectively be 30k in arbitrary investments.

    If you want to spend it, I’d buy a good bicycle or get my home isolated or sum like that. You could get cooking lessons and proper cookware and stay away from processed foods that generate tons of waste. If you have the space you could grow your own vegetables and have chickens, which eat bio waste. Basically reduce what you buy. You could get tools and learn how to fix things if that’s more up your alley. For example I’ve fixed my Sennheiser headphones several times, but it did need some investment in tools. You could also donate it to a repair café.

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    5 days ago

    As a few people have said, buying something like solar panels, or the deposit on an electric car would probably be the best - reducing your impact is probably the most you can do.

    The other option could be green investment… They do exist, ignore ‘transitional energy’ funds (90% oil majors), look at the individual shares that any fund that looks interesting. I have some money in EdenTree funds. That way your money is hopefully helping do good, while (hopefully) growing so you can do something that will have a bigger personal effect.

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    Enjoy the money and tell yourself its not your fault.

    Or alternatively, become an eco-terrorist.

    Think of:

    • Pipelines - buy explosives

    • Certain individuals pertaining to the oil industry - buy a firearms

    • Certain politicians - buy firearms

    I am not a lawyer, this comment is for entertainment pur-

    Hmm, why is there loud knocking on my door?

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    You cannot have any significant impact with 10,000$ use it to enjoy your life. We are all doomed anyway.

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      This is bs, please dont spread misinformation like this. With your logic, we should all stop voting because a single vote doesnt have impact.

      Every person is responsible for their own decisions and 10k from a single person have a huge relative impact. If every person with 10k available would use those for fighting climate change, we would have overcome it already.

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          Those are all valid points but I dont think thats what OPs question was about. They asked about effective ways to fight climate change. Not doing anything can never be an answer to that. Whether or not it makes sense to spend your hard earned money on other peoples behalf is a different question.

          Also, no we are not doomed. Yes, climate change will have a huge impact on humankind, but earth wont randomly explode or something. Humankind will adjust to higher temperatures and more frequent natural disasters, but the extent to which this will affect everyone can still be minimized. The poor will be fucked the hardest, ‘accepting our fate’ and not doing anything will cost millions more lives than it could.

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          I actually made a separate comment with my suggestions^^. I think political change and research would have the most impact, so my proposal would be donating to organizations like FCA or CATF (which btw I already do with monthly payments to a climate fund because Ive been asking myself a similar question in the past)

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    I’ve heard a statistic that goes something like: If you were to just not exist, you would only save about 1 second worth of emissions globally. Whatever individual action you do to reduce emissions from your lifestyle only go so far.

    And like others have mentioned, there are the other, less legal forms of direct action.

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    Start a fund raiser, do advertisement, (make some donations your self so that it does not look dead) - ones you get a lot of money (lets say you have doubled) - start again and repeat until you double - within 10 cycles of doublings, you reach 10 million, and keep doing until you get rich enough (lets say 10 more cycles to reach 10B) then you have 2 paths to choose - either be a hero and actual invest in research and actively reversing shit done, maybe helping displaced or other good deeds, or the mlm path, and continue the doubling cycle, keep earning - with this much money, you can now have actors and fake donations, maybe even fake researches into how you are helping, and keep growing your wealth, and maybe then escape to a tax heaven.

    Apologies for the dystopian ending, but realistically a person even going full carbon negative is not even a dent. If you actually want to do good, then you realistically require trillions, and then you feed that money to politicians, and reverse launder your way towards actual green solutions.

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    solar panels or something? No one is stopping climate change with $10K, I don’t even think $10B would make a substantial dent.

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      I think they’re just asking, from a categorical imperative perspective, what is the most effective way for all individuals with a bit of savings to help the climate situation.

      And tbh, at this point OP is probably better off spending that $10k on preparing for:

      • inclimate weather (HVAC, water proofing, warm clothing)
      • inconsistent power (battery backups, a generator)
      • food/clean water shortages (home gardening skills, rain catching/water purification).

      At this point, there’s virtually nothing that can be done to stop the impact of climate change, there is only adapting to survive it. The best we can do is vote and/or hope for our global political situation to finally reach its inevitable crisis point. But I don’t expect that to be a pleasant experience.

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      10B could make a couple underground metro lines in an otherwise extremely car dependent city with no public transport

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        10K is a home solar investment. Where I live, people tend to live in multi-family buildings about 3-6 floors high, often split between siblings and their families. Depending on how many are in the country year-round, that might even be enough for the whole building with careful management. Obviously wouldn’t be the same if the neighbors are strangers. (I appreciate that the familial emphasis might seem a bit random in your culture). Ideally 10K might just be enough for one or two households.

        The much more interesting prompt is 10B, imo.

        10B? Oh man. I’m in Lebanon. We’ve effortlessly squandered more generous fortunes than a measly 10B grant, but here’s how I’d do it:

        1B: buses, trams and parking garages to decongest some of the nicer (and underperforming, touristy) old town areas. Should give them a sorely needed boost 3B: modern seaside train running from north to south, with a small number of branches into the interior. Mostly freight. 3B: start phase of a Beirut metro. It’s not enough for a full metro system especially with our geological conditions, but the core city isn’t too big and one line should be feasible? 2B: functional army so we still have civilian infrastructure next time our noisy neighbor gets a hissy fit (infrastructure is worthless if it’s destroyed) 1B: modern fossil fuel power plant. Yeah it’s not green, but we generate a fraction of our needed power, meaning most people have to pay off a local generator mob for electricity. They use diesel and relatively inefficient smaller generators. Our existing ancient power plants use dogshit-tier diesel. I insist that some kind of LNG plant maybe would actually make the situation more green. As it stands the convenience of combustible fuel is more pertinent than the environmental cost

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        More effective would probably to buy yourself (or a person that has political potential/influence with the right intentions) into politics like president muskrat, and do well placed populistic propaganda against the actually evil fossil industry. You don’t even have to lie, just do some good rethoric speech, ads etc… We need policies on a larger level, and I think 10B$ should be enough to gain significant political influence for something that the major mass of people is already behind of, just needs a good spark. I think Thunberg has shown that. Not that we shouldn’t of course improve public transport in cities. Additionally do (employ) investigative journalism probably in the same process to give all of this a good foundation…

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        Ya its a decent start. My point here is the scale of what we’re facing. Its going to take trillions of dollars, synchronous action taken by many nations simultaneously and a complete restructuring of the current world order. There’s always hope but at this point i’m fairly cynical and don’t have a lot of faith that the right people are in charge to even start the conversation.