I mean like:
- Chinese (Edit: Mandarin Chinese) will become the lingua franca of the world
- The Internation Aviation Language will (probably) become Chinese (replacing Aviation English)
- Lunar New year becomes a popular holiday (like Chrismas is currently popular worldwide)
- The Internet will use mostly Chinese Chracter
- And instead of 26 Latin based characters, you’ll have to learn thousands of characters, imagine that 😅 (or just use a translator tool 🤷♂️)
- There would be a China version of Hollywood, taking over the original Hollywood
- Fengshui becomes a thing that the world starts to care about
- UN Headquarters now located in Shanghai (I’m guessing this is the most “international” city in China, right?)
- Boeing is dead, some Chinese airplane manufacturer now dominates, competing with Airbus.
- Baidu is default search engine (now with less censorship due to democrarization)
- Harmony OS (Huawei’s Android fork) become the new “Apple”, iPhone is now insignificant, ranking below Motorola in terms of market share.
- Either Windows get brought by some Chinese Bussiness person, or there China makes a Linux distribution that starts off as Open Source with some proprietary components (like how Android is), then eventually becoming Closed Source once they overtake Windows. Lets call it PandaOS (I’m not creative with names 'mmkay)
- etc…
Sounds like an interesting world 🤔
What do you think?
I think the main thing which I would have problems with would be the collectivism and confucionism which I really can’t stand. I don’t think it’s necessary to replace English, it’s not American anyway. The rest sounds ok to me, as long as they don’t kill my normal Linux.
collectivism
I mean, Covid would probably be handled better. Look at the democratic Asian countries, they did much better than the US.
Not worth it in my opinion.
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What do you dislike about collectivism?
I can’t stand that everyone is forced by sociaty to be the same.
I’m not like you, I have my own thinking, my own style, by own taste in music, my own taste in food, etc. etc.
I really like diversity. Let’s look at the music from mainly collectivist countries like China or Korea. There is K-pop and uhm I guess that’s all I know (and I live in Korea). Then let’s compare it to the a individualistic country I lived before like Sweden:
- Electronic Body Music
- Metal (with all it’s subgenres)
- Rock
- Pop
- Electronic Dance Music
And each of them have their own subculture. Yeah you get the point.
Wait, you think collectivism is when everyone is forced to listen to the same music? And eat the same things? And dress the same way?
Those seem to be some of the long term results of the parts of conformism like conformity, group priority and social harmony.
Lol okay then
Just a “Lol” no more explanation?
Depends on whether or not China shifts demographically as well. They’re currently too xenophobic and monocultural. Look at most western developed country and you’ll see quite a bit of diversity. I don’t think you’ll ever have a global superpower that is so set on race or where you were born.
China is definitely not immigration friendly.
China is not easy to immigrate to, true. But saying they are monocultures or xenophobic is CRAZY.
China has way more peoples and cultures than most countries. It has waaaay more languages officially spoken and taught in school than the US. It’s more comparable to the EU, if it had formed like a thousand years earlier.
Just search a couple of random Chinese provinces or autonomous regions (places where minorities self-govern 😲) in like the north and the south, or the west and the east, and read on the culture and ethnicities there.
Seriously Americans insist they have such vast cultural differences within the US, because “here we say pop and there they say soda; most people here are anabaptist, but there they are Methodists”.
Bro in China they speak languages that are not even related. They follow religions that are separated by thousands of years. They have cultural practices that are unique to their region that developed for thousands and thousands of years.
China is infinitely more diverse than 90% of countries in the world.
Not for long if the han Chinese policy is kept going 😄
What “Han Chinese policy”…?
You know the one-child policy only applied to Han Chinese in major cities right? Ethnic minorities were exempt.
And ethnic minorities have autonomy, meaning they rule themselves and have their own laws/governments. Like the Tai people in Guangxi, or Inner Mongolia where they still have signs in the Mongolian script. While in Mongolia they use the Cyrillic alphabet 😄
The Chinese government sponsors local cultural events and practices, builds temples to local religions (like the largest Buddhist temple in the world in southwest China), incentivizes learning local languages (by having bilingual schools) etc etc.
What has any western country done in that respect? In guarding and preserving minority cultures? Like how are Canada or Australia doing? I won’t even mention the US 😄
Oh I don’t think it’s called the han policy. But it’s about the harmonisation of all people living inside China. It’s the philosophy responsible for the genocide of Uighurs and one very interesting thing is the exchange of christian crosses in churches for pictures of Xi
That’s not a thing 😄
Yeah I can’t say that I know if there ever was clubbed a “han first policy” 😅 But the harmonisation of all people living inside China to be closer to the Han majority is very much a thing. There’s plenty reports of it, just search the net :)
Dang I can’t find anything on that that’s not NED propaganda /: seems like it’s fake surprise surprise
No because we can and ought to have a world without global superpowers and states overall.
There should never be a global super power. Ever.
That depends on how they act. China right now is on a path where I’d oppose them replacing the US. However the EU has the ability to replace the US as the global superpower - they don’t because despite some significant differences overall the US and EU get along well and so they don’t see any point. By cooperating the EU gains the things they want from being a global superpower without the disadvantages. Part of that cooperation is the EU is in NATO (mostly?) and so they are paying some of the military costs of the US being a global super power.
The US isn’t perfect by any means, but we have done much better in many ways vs previous global superpowers. Right now I’d predict China would be worse so I oppose it. However who knows how things will change in the future.
Not really, the same issues that plague the world right now will still exist, just stemming from a different entity
I’d be too worried about the CCP backsliding, but if it theoritycally collapsed, and the ROC swooped in to take its place, then yeah I’d be fine with it. Better than Trump’s america
I think your premise - If China becomes democratic - is a really, really big IF.
But hey if they can show us a better way and use their resources to help the world, go nuts. A true 1:1 democracy would be fascinating to see implemented.
This reads more like “do you care if Chinese culture becomes popular and dominant” and I am not sure. Except for the language (which I don’t think I could learn before I die) I don’t care, the music is good, movies, dance. And China and India are both so populous it would make logical sense to me that one might be the trend-setting culture.
But politically I think it more likely that the US finds its way back to democracy, than China finding its way there.
It wouldn’t be any different, the US is NOT a democracy either and is a global superpower 🤷♂️
The only issue I see with your plan is keeping the Chinese writing system. Alphabets are superior, even if you write Chinese with them.
Otherwise as long as my ideas about how the world should function get put into practice, I don’t care who does it. By chance of history US was the one who brought quite a few good ideas into the world, mostly in the second half of the 20th century. But there’s nothing fundamentally American about having good ideas.
You can’t write Chinese languages with alphabets, even using tone markers there are too many homophones.
There’s a reason Chinese hasn’t switched to a new writing system the way that Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Hmong, and I’m sure other languages, have.
Considering they use Uyghur slave labour for Xinjiang cotton, the answer is a no from me.
Man cotton just attracts slaves across every part of the globe. Good thing america diddnt have slaves picking cotton at any point in history /s
But seriously ukraine used slave child labour. Cotton for some reason requires slaves I have no idea why.
The cotton is awkward to pick.
It requires careful, dextrous removal from the bush that even modern day robots can’t do well.More difficult than picking raspberries, apparently.
And I hope we’d not endorse the US’s wet dream of human rights abuse being justification for war.
I’d rather have multipolarity.
Even if multipolarity means more war?
I think it means less war. Unfun Fact: Most of the major wars since 1990 wouldn’t have happened if the USSR still existed as a rival to the USA; the latter wouldn’t have dared to intervene in Iraq or Afghanistan, no wars between Azeris and Armenians, or Ukrainians and Russians, since they all would be part of the same country.
When you refer to becoming democratic, you mean like how it has been until a couple of years ago? Or, are you referring to China suddenly becoming Capitalist instead of Communist?
Or, are you referring to China suddenly becoming Capitalist instead of Communist?
China is already capitalist. By “Democratic” I mean as in Liberal Democracy.
So they can turn fascist again?
Why?
Ah, gotcha. I understand democratic by the direct definition, not an implied meaning. Thanks for explaining it.
When you say “Chinese” becomes lingua franca, do you mean Mandarin? Cantonese? Yue? Hakka? Other? If Mandarin, do you mean Jilu? Jiaolio? Other?
I don’t think “Chinese” or any sinitic language ever becomes the global language. Translation is becoming so simple, I would expect any new global initiative can work in 3-4 languages simultaneously.
UN headquarters relocating - I think it would be more likely the UN collapses and is replaced by something else with China leading.
The Chinese movie industry is already huge, we just don’t see much of it in the US.
Lots of Chinese people aren’t into fengshui. That’s kind of a bizarre stereotype for you to pick out of everything mentioned.
The aerospace industry in China has a ways to go before they can be classified in the same tier as Airbus. They are getting better, but still heavily rely on borrowing designs instead of creating their own.
Baidu, HarmonyOS, a computer OS - fine by me to add more options.
What I actually hope is the idea of a single global superpower dies completely. It’s not even the current reality for the US; it’s just propaganda.
When you say “Chinese” becomes lingua franca, do you mean Mandarin? Cantonese? Yue? Hakka? Other? If Mandarin, do you mean Jilu? Jiaolio? Other?
Mandarin Chinese. (I had this in mind when I was typing it, but then forgot to type it 😅)
Lots of Chinese people aren’t into fengshui. That’s kind of a bizarre stereotype for you to pick out of everything mentioned.
Idk, my parents are very into it, so I just assumed its a standard thing. The friends that my mom talk to seems to discuss superstitions a lot. My parents wouldn’t buy a house with the number 4 on the street address.
(For Context: My family and I were born in PRC)
I meant more like “Chinese Superstition” rather than just “fengshui”, but the “fengshui” term was more widespread so I just used that instead.
What I actually hope is the idea of a single global superpower dies completely. It’s not even the current reality for the US; it’s just propaganda.
Yea I don’t like superpowers either, but this is more like a “If you had to pick” type of question.
Maybe it’s a generational thing, or geographic thing?
My wife was born in a village near Xi’an, and lived there for ~22 years
She isn’t into fengshui, and doesn’t adhere to any major superstitions (I guess other than you have to keep your belly button warm 😂)
