I mean like:
- Chinese (Edit: Mandarin Chinese) will become the lingua franca of the world
- The Internation Aviation Language will (probably) become Chinese (replacing Aviation English)
- Lunar New year becomes a popular holiday (like Chrismas is currently popular worldwide)
- The Internet will use mostly Chinese Chracter
- And instead of 26 Latin based characters, you’ll have to learn thousands of characters, imagine that 😅 (or just use a translator tool 🤷♂️)
- There would be a China version of Hollywood, taking over the original Hollywood
- Fengshui becomes a thing that the world starts to care about
- UN Headquarters now located in Shanghai (I’m guessing this is the most “international” city in China, right?)
- Boeing is dead, some Chinese airplane manufacturer now dominates, competing with Airbus.
- Baidu is default search engine (now with less censorship due to democrarization)
- Harmony OS (Huawei’s Android fork) become the new “Apple”, iPhone is now insignificant, ranking below Motorola in terms of market share.
- Either Windows get brought by some Chinese Bussiness person, or there China makes a Linux distribution that starts off as Open Source with some proprietary components (like how Android is), then eventually becoming Closed Source once they overtake Windows. Lets call it PandaOS (I’m not creative with names 'mmkay)
- etc…
Sounds like an interesting world 🤔
What do you think?
I don’t care which country is the global super power as long as it adhere to the liberal world order and all that comes with it.
I want to leave in peace, enjoy my human rights and not have to worry about other countries using arms to push their will.But also: a lot of those points have nothing to do with who the global super power is
But also: a lot of those points have nothing to do with who the global super power is
I mean, Americanization of the world was helped by the fact that US became a global superpower.
Absolutely, soft power is definitely relevant.
A lot of people in the global south might say they don’t want it to adhere to the “liberal world order”
You’re speaking from a position of privilege, and suggesting that you should keep your privilege
I don’t care. The question was if I was okay with China as the super power and my answer is that it don’t matter as long as it adheres to the liberal world order.
Get off your high horse.
China
it don’t matter as long as it adheres to the liberal world order.
Well, they don’t.
I would even say, the distance between China and a liberal world order is more than the diameter of our planet.
For sure lol
I think the main thing which I would have problems with would be the collectivism and confucionism which I really can’t stand. I don’t think it’s necessary to replace English, it’s not American anyway. The rest sounds ok to me, as long as they don’t kill my normal Linux.
collectivism
I mean, Covid would probably be handled better. Look at the democratic Asian countries, they did much better than the US.
Not worth it in my opinion.
I get what you’re saying here, But there are like 3-5 democratic countries in Asia, and even they didn’t fair the best with covid. I think it’s the US that was exceptionally bad, not the countries that handled it greatly.
As for the rest i’d rather live in a flawed liberal democracy than an efficient autocratic dictatorship.
What do you dislike about collectivism?
I can’t stand that everyone is forced by sociaty to be the same.
I’m not like you, I have my own thinking, my own style, by own taste in music, my own taste in food, etc. etc.
I really like diversity. Let’s look at the music from mainly collectivist countries like China or Korea. There is K-pop and uhm I guess that’s all I know (and I live in Korea). Then let’s compare it to the a individualistic country I lived before like Sweden:
- Electronic Body Music
- Metal (with all it’s subgenres)
- Rock
- Pop
- Electronic Dance Music
And each of them have their own subculture. Yeah you get the point.
Wait, you think collectivism is when everyone is forced to listen to the same music? And eat the same things? And dress the same way?
Those seem to be some of the long term results of the parts of conformism like conformity, group priority and social harmony.
Lol okay then
Just a “Lol” no more explanation?
Depends on whether or not China shifts demographically as well. They’re currently too xenophobic and monocultural. Look at most western developed country and you’ll see quite a bit of diversity. I don’t think you’ll ever have a global superpower that is so set on race or where you were born.
China is definitely not immigration friendly.
No because we can and ought to have a world without global superpowers and states overall.
That depends on how they act. China right now is on a path where I’d oppose them replacing the US. However the EU has the ability to replace the US as the global superpower - they don’t because despite some significant differences overall the US and EU get along well and so they don’t see any point. By cooperating the EU gains the things they want from being a global superpower without the disadvantages. Part of that cooperation is the EU is in NATO (mostly?) and so they are paying some of the military costs of the US being a global super power.
The US isn’t perfect by any means, but we have done much better in many ways vs previous global superpowers. Right now I’d predict China would be worse so I oppose it. However who knows how things will change in the future.
no.
why?
because democracies don’t work in a world devoid of consequences against the rich and powerful.
This reads more like “do you care if Chinese culture becomes popular and dominant” and I am not sure. Except for the language (which I don’t think I could learn before I die) I don’t care, the music is good, movies, dance. And China and India are both so populous it would make logical sense to me that one might be the trend-setting culture.
But politically I think it more likely that the US finds its way back to democracy, than China finding its way there.
It wouldn’t be any different, the US is NOT a democracy either and is a global superpower 🤷♂️
The only issue I see with your plan is keeping the Chinese writing system. Alphabets are superior, even if you write Chinese with them.
Otherwise as long as my ideas about how the world should function get put into practice, I don’t care who does it. By chance of history US was the one who brought quite a few good ideas into the world, mostly in the second half of the 20th century. But there’s nothing fundamentally American about having good ideas.
You can’t write Chinese languages with alphabets, even using tone markers there are too many homophones.
There’s a reason Chinese hasn’t switched to a new writing system the way that Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Hmong, and I’m sure other languages, have.
Considering they use Uyghur slave labour for Xinjiang cotton, the answer is a no from me.
Man cotton just attracts slaves across every part of the globe. Good thing america diddnt have slaves picking cotton at any point in history /s
But seriously ukraine used slave child labour. Cotton for some reason requires slaves I have no idea why.
The cotton is awkward to pick.
It requires careful, dextrous removal from the bush that even modern day robots can’t do well.More difficult than picking raspberries, apparently.
And I hope we’d not endorse the US’s wet dream of human rights abuse being justification for war.
When you say “Chinese” becomes lingua franca, do you mean Mandarin? Cantonese? Yue? Hakka? Other? If Mandarin, do you mean Jilu? Jiaolio? Other?
I don’t think “Chinese” or any sinitic language ever becomes the global language. Translation is becoming so simple, I would expect any new global initiative can work in 3-4 languages simultaneously.
UN headquarters relocating - I think it would be more likely the UN collapses and is replaced by something else with China leading.
The Chinese movie industry is already huge, we just don’t see much of it in the US.
Lots of Chinese people aren’t into fengshui. That’s kind of a bizarre stereotype for you to pick out of everything mentioned.
The aerospace industry in China has a ways to go before they can be classified in the same tier as Airbus. They are getting better, but still heavily rely on borrowing designs instead of creating their own.
Baidu, HarmonyOS, a computer OS - fine by me to add more options.
What I actually hope is the idea of a single global superpower dies completely. It’s not even the current reality for the US; it’s just propaganda.
When you say “Chinese” becomes lingua franca, do you mean Mandarin? Cantonese? Yue? Hakka? Other? If Mandarin, do you mean Jilu? Jiaolio? Other?
Mandarin Chinese. (I had this in mind when I was typing it, but then forgot to type it 😅)
Lots of Chinese people aren’t into fengshui. That’s kind of a bizarre stereotype for you to pick out of everything mentioned.
Idk, my parents are very into it, so I just assumed its a standard thing. The friends that my mom talk to seems to discuss superstitions a lot. My parents wouldn’t buy a house with the number 4 on the street address.
(For Context: My family and I were born in PRC)
I meant more like “Chinese Superstition” rather than just “fengshui”, but the “fengshui” term was more widespread so I just used that instead.
What I actually hope is the idea of a single global superpower dies completely. It’s not even the current reality for the US; it’s just propaganda.
Yea I don’t like superpowers either, but this is more like a “If you had to pick” type of question.
Maybe it’s a generational thing, or geographic thing?
My wife was born in a village near Xi’an, and lived there for ~22 years
She isn’t into fengshui, and doesn’t adhere to any major superstitions (I guess other than you have to keep your belly button warm 😂)
Sure why not?
I mean having to learn Chinese would be pain in the ass but probably good for me and my country’s main character syndrome is annoying as hell so sure
it’ll take a huge and lucky shift to have this happen, but still interesting on your choices of pop culture changes.
anyways, i believe a more short term thing is each region will have economic areas of influence and may or may not have bits and pieces of what you described here.
I wouldn’t have a problem with any actually democratic country being a superpower since I’ve always lived in a democratic superpower. Though it’s flawed and not the greatest, it sure as Hell would beat growing up in an authoritarian superpower.
As for the things listed, I wouldn’t mind the whole Chinese becoming the defacto world language considering I could probably learn it and if not, translation tools are better than ever before in most cases. I wouldn’t mind Chinese Hollywood so long as they were making quality animated films (which is way more than possible for them currently, just look at films like Legend of Hei and Big Fish and Begonia). Fengshui as a spiritual practice I can’t get behind personally, but have no problems with.
Got no complaints about where UN headquarters would be moved to in this hypothetical so long as it’s not an authoritarian country. I don’t mind Lunar New Year becoming a major holiday since it’s fairly harmless as a concept (just don’t go blowing yourself up with firecrackers somehow). So long as the safety and privacy measures are roughly the same and I’m not being uber spied on, don’t really care who has control of business manufacturing, no authoritarian country though.
Knowing Baidu, without the government requirement to censor, they’d become the new gøøgle in this hypothetical world, so you wouldn’t catch me directly using it. Don’t have enough info on harmony to make a statement about it since I usually just use budget samsun phones with their android tweaks. As for windows/Linux, there are already whole entire Linux distros (like Deepin) that may be forks of one of the big distros but are their own thing. But knowing me, I’d still stick with whatever Linux I am using at the time, so little to no impact for me there.
All in all, I don’t have a problem in this hypothetical. But that’s something we’re pretty far away from ever becoming a reality, though.
