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European officials are preparing a multibillion-dollar defense package to bolster regional security and support Ukraine, announced by German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock at the Munich Security Conference.

The package, potentially valued up to 700 billion euros, will fund military training, arms deliveries, and security guarantees amid concerns over Russian aggression and diminishing U.S. contributions to NATO.

The move follows calls for Europe to boost its own defense spending while U.S.-Russian talks, which exclude Ukraine and Europe, on ending the Ukraine conflict continue.

    • michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      You have to spend money on weapons in order to have the privilege of sitting peacefully with those weapons rather than dying on your enemies.

      • index@sh.itjust.works
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        Peace is not achieved by spending trillions in war. Look around yourself what’s happening there’s no peace.

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          In all of history peace has only ever been achieved by being strong enough to deter would be conquerors. Without deterrence Russia would crush Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Ukraine whilst threatening all of Europe. The US would take Canada, Greenland. NK would take South Korea. China would take Taiwan.

          The world has never been free of evil powerful men who would take from their neighbors. What you think looks like peace has only ever been most of the situations being stable based in large part on people’s willingness to murder people who would come to murder and take from them. If you aren’t actually willing to fight you won’t find yourself safe very long.

          Military aid between nations creates stability by drastically increasing the cost of attacking one party lest an empire expand by taking one bite at a time and becoming strong enough to threaten larger neighbors in the process.

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      3 days ago

      So, the US and Russia are the aggressors, so, they need to be repelled, right?

      Which costs money.

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      Is your point that Russia should be allowed to steam roll through Ukraine? Europe shouldn’t help their allies and neighbors defend themselves? Standing up to bullies is worse than being a bully?

      Genuinely curious if you even have a point to make at all. I hope I’m just interpreting you wrong.

    • Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com
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      3 days ago

      So since adjusting by PPP Russia has spent over a trillion in USD on the war, that makes Russia the aggressor?

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      3 days ago

      Is this a joke? Sorry so much time living in clown world has made it hard to tell.

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        In a world where everyone is brainwashed by state propaganda advocating for peace and military spending cut is considered a joke.