Ten Democrats joined with House Republicans on Thursday to censure Rep. Al Green for his protest during President Donald Trump’s address to Congress this week — a formal condemnation of the Texas Democrat’s actions.
The 10 Democrats who voted with Republicans to censure Green were: Ami Bera of California, Ed Case of Hawaii, Jim Costa of California, Laura Gillen of New York, Jim Himes of Connecticut, Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania, Marcy Kaptur of Ohio, Jared Moskowitz of Florida, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington and Tom Suozzi of New York.
You’d have to be a head case to support this. It’s gonna costa lot of any remaining goodwill the Dems may have possessed because they’re acting like kaptured opposition. Trump is thoroughly owned by Moskownitwitz and should be shouted down at ami opportunity.
somehow theres always just enough dems voting with them for the repubs to get their way. If the repubs need 10 dem votes they get 10. If they need 20, they get 20. Like magic.
They actually need 0. If every Democrat is present and votes against then Republicans can miss one vote and still pass it. For example, the house budget bill which will gut medicaid passed by 1 vote with 0 Dems voting with the Republicans.
I think it’s actually even worse now that Democrat Rep. Sylvester Turner has died. Now they can miss out on 2 Republican votes and still pass.
You’re right and you should say it. Progressives in America need to execute a takeover just like the Tea Party did on the right. Primary out every moderate Dem.
You won’t win em all, but you’ll win enough to fundamentally change the direction of the party.
The biggest issue with that is that the Tea Party was an astroturf movement backed by Koch brothers. We already have enough big money in politics. And it would be more beneficial for everyone if the DNC simply dropped off the face of the earth and was replaced by a workers party.
Your don’t have to be the Tea Party in order to replicate their success.
It might be better if you got some glorious new socialist workers party that appeared out of nowhere, but Santa doesn’t have any of those in his sack right now. Work with what you have.
What you have is rapidly encroaching fascism. What you need is any solution that gets you out of that.
You’re not looking for ideal. You’re looking for workable. You’re going to have a lot more success pushing forward leftist candidates in a party that already has an established base of support than you are in trying to somehow build sufficient momentum for a viable third party in a country that has basically never had viable third parties.
No one that’s perceived as a threat to the current system will never be allowed any form of power within the system. Voting within the system rules is a setup for failure.
We don’t have to talk about this as a nebulous concept, there are groups that work to run progressives everywhere and they are currently seeing a surge in interest. We can get to work today
For instance, Run For Something supports progressives under 40 year-old both in primaries and general elections. They have had 26 thousand people sign up for them to run for local and state office since November alone. Jasmine Crockett came through the Run for Something pipeline, so this is not some hypothetical that doesn’t get results. They’ve gotten thousands of progressives elected at the local and state level, we can ramp that up. Consider running for state & local office yourself and encourage any progressive you know to run as well
Groups like Indivisible are also putting pressure on both Republicans and Dems and starting to get some degrees of success. For instance, they have gotten senate Dems to start using unanimous consent to slow down senate nominees like Russel Vought and RFK (they held the floor for the maximum 30 hours too)
You will always hear 10x more about the losses than the wins, but please know this is a fight we can win. There are people putting in the work and we can all join them
Also contact your House rep (whether it is Democrat or Republican, yes they might ignore, but without you complaining it is much easier to do) to vote against it
As a constituent, I find the so-called “Take it Down” act terrifying especially in light of the President’s casual mention of personal use during his address to the joint meeting.
I have not seen any indication on your position as yet, but please actively campaign against it, and pressure our close neighbors Ro Khanna and Jim Costa, who are on the record supporting it to withdraw their support.
The only use this bill has for the authors is to limit freedom of speech and press.
Democrats are absolutely fucking pathetic.
10 out of 214 but these names should hear some backlash.
at this point they are just as responsible for the current situation as the maghats
10 Dinos
You’d have to be a head case to support this. It’s gonna costa lot of any remaining goodwill the Dems may have possessed because they’re acting like kaptured opposition. Trump is thoroughly owned by Moskownitwitz and should be shouted down at ami opportunity.
I’m souzzi for the puns.
204 democrats voted against it, 10 voted for, kind of grasping at straws to say every democrat in congress is complicit.
somehow theres always just enough dems voting with them for the repubs to get their way. If the repubs need 10 dem votes they get 10. If they need 20, they get 20. Like magic.
They actually need 0. If every Democrat is present and votes against then Republicans can miss one vote and still pass it. For example, the house budget bill which will gut medicaid passed by 1 vote with 0 Dems voting with the Republicans.
I think it’s actually even worse now that Democrat Rep. Sylvester Turner has died. Now they can miss out on 2 Republican votes and still pass.
Never said everyone was complicit, I said this move is going to cost them.
These are all the hard earned conservative Democrats the party has been working overtime to court.
Primary the fuckers
Don’t stop with those 10, primary every last MF
You’re right and you should say it. Progressives in America need to execute a takeover just like the Tea Party did on the right. Primary out every moderate Dem.
You won’t win em all, but you’ll win enough to fundamentally change the direction of the party.
The biggest issue with that is that the Tea Party was an astroturf movement backed by Koch brothers. We already have enough big money in politics. And it would be more beneficial for everyone if the DNC simply dropped off the face of the earth and was replaced by a workers party.
Your don’t have to be the Tea Party in order to replicate their success.
It might be better if you got some glorious new socialist workers party that appeared out of nowhere, but Santa doesn’t have any of those in his sack right now. Work with what you have.
What we have is 2 corporate owned parties that will do everything in their power to keep things the same. There is no reforming a corrupt system
What you have is rapidly encroaching fascism. What you need is any solution that gets you out of that.
You’re not looking for ideal. You’re looking for workable. You’re going to have a lot more success pushing forward leftist candidates in a party that already has an established base of support than you are in trying to somehow build sufficient momentum for a viable third party in a country that has basically never had viable third parties.
No one that’s perceived as a threat to the current system will never be allowed any form of power within the system. Voting within the system rules is a setup for failure.
We don’t have to talk about this as a nebulous concept, there are groups that work to run progressives everywhere and they are currently seeing a surge in interest. We can get to work today
For instance, Run For Something supports progressives under 40 year-old both in primaries and general elections. They have had 26 thousand people sign up for them to run for local and state office since November alone. Jasmine Crockett came through the Run for Something pipeline, so this is not some hypothetical that doesn’t get results. They’ve gotten thousands of progressives elected at the local and state level, we can ramp that up. Consider running for state & local office yourself and encourage any progressive you know to run as well
Groups like Indivisible are also putting pressure on both Republicans and Dems and starting to get some degrees of success. For instance, they have gotten senate Dems to start using unanimous consent to slow down senate nominees like Russel Vought and RFK (they held the floor for the maximum 30 hours too)
You will always hear 10x more about the losses than the wins, but please know this is a fight we can win. There are people putting in the work and we can all join them
I’m bookmarking this comment so I can just direct people to it in future. Thank you.
Also the Democrats that are supporting this bill https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/119/hr633/cosponsors
I see some overlap
Here’s the list:
Edit: here’s EFF page about it https://act.eff.org/action/the-take-it-down-act-will-censor-legal-speech-without-helping-victims/
Also contact your House rep (whether it is Democrat or Republican, yes they might ignore, but without you complaining it is much easier to do) to vote against it
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
Here’s what I sent my rep: