Summary
Trump is revoking collective bargaining rights at the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), ending union protections for thousands of airport security officers.
The Department of Homeland Security claims the move will improve efficiency and security, but unions argue it is a retaliatory attack on federal workers.
The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) plans to challenge the decision. TSA workers fear the rollback will worsen working conditions and retention.
The policy reverses union rights granted under Obama and expanded by Biden.
My love for unions eclipses my hatred for the TSA on this one.
Yeah, pig unions deserve to roast.
Police Unions are gangs. Not labor unions.
Pretty sure you misunderstood op. They’re saying their hatred of TSA is overshadowed by their love of unions meaning they think this is bad because as the other person said, harm to one union harms all unions.
I may be stupid and unable to read but at least I don’t work for the TSA.
TSA is way more like mall security than police tho.
ACAB all the way, and TSA is little more than a hollow performance, basically security flavored LaCroix that ought to be abolished as genuinely wasteful and needlessly degrading and inconvenient to travelers.
But I don’t really see TSA agents as cops. I’m sure the line blurs in some specific cases, but they’re not going around murdering people with impunity like cops do.
Sort of my feelings here. This isn’t like the FBI or CIA that actively go around trying to fuck people over. Airports wouldn’t function if they acted like that and politicians LOVE to fly.
But also, the TSA is a place we need to defund and mostly dismantle. There’s no reason an airport needs so much security theater other than it makes rich people feel good. They need about as much security as a subway does (not much).
That said, they aren’t first on my list for “defund the police”. That honor belongs to ICE.
The destruction of one union harms all unions.
Well except for one.
Pardon my ignorance, but how does this even work? Like, don’t they just walk off the job collectively until someone is willing to negotiate with them?
The “protection” is the government not firing people for collective bargaining or collective actions. This is similar to when Reagan fired a bunch of ATC strikers and ever since then we’ve had a massive shortage of ATC personnel.
That’s how unions are supposed to work. It’s really the only bargaining chip workers have, at least until we can all be 100% replaced by ai and robots…
How are we doing on that front, by the way?
We’re probably multiple centuries from robot labor replacing a meaningful amount of human labor.
Modern “AI” can’t even run a call center, it’s not replacing real jobs anytime soon, despite how egar marketing teams are to gaslight C-Suite into paying for it.
Let’s hope so and be vocal about our support for the union that this administration is trying to crush before our eyes.
Americans are so corporatized that they mistakenly think the power of unions comes from the government
Which is pretty effective propaganda.
Union busters have spent a lot of money to make it feel that way.
And that’s exactly why they’re in some part right. If you have enough money to buy scabs, and protection for the scabs, the union relies on the government making that illegal.
It’s the break down of the pact. At a small scale anyway - obviously the longer it goes on and the further they go with the busting attempts, the more union actions will cause ripples in other industries, and solidarity movements. They can’t buy protection everywhere, and if they try, it’s escalation all the way to the bloodshed that wrote the pact in the first place.
Lol let’s see how proactive these power trippin fucks are about their jobs without union protection
Okay, so he revoked the collective bargaining rights. He didn’t revoke the ability to go out on strike, though. It just won’t be an organized strike.
Weren’t strikes the compromise to the other option, namely dragging the owners out of the factory and beating them in the streets? Maybe they just want to go back to the original system.
Naw they’ll still be organized too. The strikers just don’t have legal protections anymore.
Just remember:
When beating your boss, use a bag of Florida oranges. They hurt like the devil and don’t leave a mark.
Bing Crosby is that you?
Just a heads up that beating your boss will leave a bruise but go ahead and do it anyways
And you get some delicious orange juice after!
seems luigi didn’t make the message loud enough.
He aimed for what was essentially a high level minion. Billionaires should have been his targets.
Hang on, I’m probably crazy but Im seeing a trend here… Are they hoping for another 9/11? Cuz I could totally see them trying for another 9/11. TSA ain’t even that effective so it’s not really about them existing or not, but more about the idea, that it could happen again
Possibly, Putin had an allegedly staged terror attack early on to drum up support
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings
And Trump seems to be following his playbook to the T.
I could it see it being a cyber attack. Like a ransomware or ddos of government systems.
But the thing about Trump, is that he’ll have to out do 9/11, his ego won’t allow anything less.
That is what terrifies me
Bomb all of Manhattan. Award the rebuilding contract, subsidies and land to your friends. Profit
considering how 9/11 made the American people so eager to embrace fascism, yeah why not?
100% yes
How does anyone control one’s ability to collectively bargain. Seems like a demand the group makes and doesn’t require permission for.
The TSA never provided any tangible increase in airport security. DOGE could have started here.
Yeah, planes have been falling out of the sky pretty regularly lately without assistance from terrorists.
without assistance from terrorists
i would argue, that the terrorists are just in office now
Paying our employees less will increase security
You’d question the intellectual level of the person making that statement if we didn’t know they’re all just sayin whatever to excuse the inexcusable.
Canada? Abusive partner who has been stealing from us!
Palestine children? They’re terrorists, we should kill them before they kill us
Transgender people? They’re pedophiles, won’t anyone think of the children?
Immigrants? Job stealing terrorists sent by Isis, we must stop them!
All hail and glory to king
elmocheeto!Fuck em. Shut down the airports.
TSA could strike and airports would be better for it… That’s a dangerous game for the admin to play.
I think that’s part of the strategy here. “Look at this, I busted up this union and now flying is the most enjoyable it has ever been”
Edit: another piece of this is how much money would be saved by liquidating the TSA.
I know five or six people who work for the TSA, and every one of them are MAGA
That won’t happen though. They won’t be replaced with anyone, there will be massive delays instead.
But very few people will side with the TSA on this anyway.
I know five or six people who work for the TSA, and every one of them are MAGA
And yet it’s very likely they won’t put two and two together to figure out the sitting Republican president is responsible for their weakened union. Still, this couldn’t have happened to more deserving people.
Didn’t you hear? It’s all Biden’s fault that Trump is being forced to do this. That’s good enough for them.
Odds are they didn’t like the Union in the first place.
The way the TSA strikes is by causing massive delays for passengers going through security. The last time they did that, the security line at Atlanta international was 2 and a half hours long at times. It wound all the way back to the check in.
The TSA workers have the same simple solution to a shit boss everyone else has. If the BS out paces the pay, walk away.
I’ll just go get one of those good jobs that I didn’t already have for some reason. If only there was some way to have more leverage for pay negotiation. /s
I get the sarcasm, and the downvotes, but I have always viewed my employer more of a customer. My product that I am selling is my time, passion and skill. So with that in mind, what can you bring to the table? What’s your skill set?
If you have a CDL or can get one, almost everyone is hiring. Company driver pay is generally in the $55k - $120k range. Though your first year or 2 will probably be less. Downside is you’re probably away from home a lot, and are held personally accountable for any damage you do. Literally, I could quit my current job, and be hired and getting payed by a new company within the week. Historically the average has been 2 days.
If that doesn’t float your boat:
I know of several towns within a 50 miles of me, that don’t have local electricians, plumbers, HVAC techs or even a handyman. You could charge as much as the traffic will bear.
Everyone in the local area is looking for every type of mechanic and can’t find them.
Nurses are always in demand (and very much not respected enough). Pays well too.
If you prefer working with Unions, the Boilermakers and Pipefitters will both train you. Both have more work than people last I heard.
Farmers and Garbage collectors both are having their help either deported or leaving the country, so they are probably hiring.
But ya, if you’re looking for a nice comfy office job, that would indeed be a tough row to hoe. Everyone wants the comfy jobs, so they’re scarce and the pay is shit. There is a reason I drive a truck.
Remember, it’s not a right if it can be taken away! Your right to collectively bargain comes from the fact that there are hundreds of you and one of him, not because he “allowed” it.
Yeap but apparently there are hundreds ofn thousands of sheep or wolves that like to be trampled
Then striking workers have no legal protections, either. Better than no strikes, but we’ve basically lost 100 years of progress.
Lest we forget how we got here. Strikes and collective bargaining were the compromise.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_violence_in_the_United_States
We need to go back.
The fun thing about wildcat strikes though is that you don’t need legal protections for them to work. See new York’s illegal prison strike for a good recent example.
That’s true, and it’s probably the only way forward at this point, but it sure makes things harder than they needed to be.
Oh look, leopards at the airport
STRIKE TSA!!! Don’t let them do this to you.
How can he unilaterally do this? How has he been given or taken this much power?
How has he been given or taken this much power?
Well.
One of Congress’ jobs is to reign in the power of the president and make sure the branches of government are balanced.
Congress is controlled by Republicans.
Republicans are spineless cowards.
They’ve given up their Congressional powers to their felon rapist traitor daddy.
You are literally witnessing the collapse of the U.S. federal government to an authoritarian. Because it can, in fact, happen here.
so the orange skin bag with the tumbleweed toupee is the dude ‘in charge’, but his dom is actually the south african nazi so he holds the reins; nazi dom was given the role because he has money and no morals, which aligns with republican ‘values’ of being spineless, unintelligent, and greedy
