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They’re only killing the crappy store/UWP version that nobody used anyway and only caused confusion. The normal OneNote bundled in Office isn’t going anywhere as far as I know.
That said, I’ve moved a lot of my note taking to Obsidian. It’s not a perfect replacement but it’s a fantastic markdown editor and now I use both for different use cases.
It was a really good app for quite a bit and had the best inking experience compared to the non-UWP version. A few years back they announced merging the features to the Win32 version and it has since been more or less on par now.
Obsidian with self hosted live sync is what I switched to and found it’s actually better.
I’ve found Joplin acceptable.
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I use OneNote quite frequently at work. It’s so much more than a “handwriting app”… Hell, I use it often enough that I started using it at home years ago. However, I much prefer FOSS alternatives for my personal and home use, so I use Joplin Notes paired to a backup server I run on my home lab, that way they sync across all my devices just like OneNote does.
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I wouldn’t exactly call that the hallmark of OneNote, but okay. Have you tried Saber?
I use Joplin and OneNote, on an MS Surface. OneNote handles hand writing great, but it’s also just a notes app that works great with typing and pictures and everything.
They’re just moving to the app store version.
Feature Notion Joplin Obsidian Evernote Zoho Notebook GoodNotes Zim Wiki Standard Notes MyInfo Cloud Sync Yes Yes Optional Yes Yes Yes Manual Yes Manual Offline Support Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Handwriting Support No Limited No Yes Yes Excellent No No No Encryption No Yes No Partial No No No Yes No Hierarchy Support Yes Yes Yes Yes Partial Yes Yes No Yes Free Version Yes Yes Yes Limited Yes Limited Yes Limited No Platform Support Win, macOS, iOS, Android, Web Win, macOS, Linux, iOS, Android Win, macOS, Linux Win, macOS, iOS, Android, Web Win, macOS, iOS, Android, Web iOS, iPadOS, macOS Win, Linux Win, macOS, Linux, iOS, Android, Web Windows E: I noticed a couple mistakes. Lemme know if you spot others and I can edit (at time of this writing anyways)
Excluding Google Keep?
Google
The only list any of their services should be included in is the list of things to avoid.
i don’t understand your comment
Does this explanation by ChatGPT make sense to you?
This comment seems to express a strongly negative opinion about Google. The writer is suggesting that Google’s services should not be included in any positive or useful lists. Instead, they believe that Google and its services should be on a “list of things to avoid,” implying that using Google is something people should avoid for some reason – likely due to concerns about privacy, data collection, or general distrust of the company.
now i get it!
This is unreadable on mobile in portrait mode
On Boost, the columns got narrowed to each three characters wide, just to fit all columns on screen width-wise
Perfectly readable with the Voyager App.
Thunder compresses it
thunder and wefwef/voyager are the lemy apps i use on my phone
I suggest You track, which has a Wiki component. It had extensions like Draw.IO as well for diagramming which is basically a necessity for me.
Its self hostable or a free cloud version.
Great note - thanks for the contribution.
I use it all the time
Obsidian ftw
So pleased I dumped Windows and moved to Linux recently.
Everyone should look into dumping “big tech” and move away from Microsoft, Apple and Google. It’s great. And the best part of it, no AI in sight.
That’s not true. I can run any AI I want. Emphasis on “I want”. ;)
I’m running Stability Matrix. It’s got a maintained package on AUR. It’s been… interesting.
Hooter with Hooters for Hooters:
Woah, NSFW! Way too hot…
🥵🥵🥵💦
Seems like a hoot!
I’m very interested in OneNote alternatives. I’ve been using OneNote for longer than I’ve disliked Microsoft… and I still think it’s a good app. Pretty much the only thing I don’t like about OneNote is the increasingly close integration with Windows accounts. I’d rather my notes were not scanned and uploaded and processed by a US mega-corp…
Anyway, people keep suggesting stuff like Joplin. But that isn’t even vaguely close to OneNote in terms of stylus and inking. For me, inking is the main core feature. And so in terms of alternatives, xournal++ is a closer fit. (xournal++ has essentially no organisational structure for notes; but it is really great for inking.)
What I’d really like is basically the organisational structure of Joplin (or whatever other alternative) + the inking power of xournal++. And ideally being able to import my vast amounts of handwritten OneNote work! – But that last bit is probably too much to ask.
I’ve been using Any.type for a bit over a year, and am very happy with it, but I don’t believe it has hand writing support.
There is a free tier that includes 1gb synced storage (optional).
It’s open source. Somewhat similar to Obsidian, but no plugin support that I’m aware of.
I switched from OneNote a couple of years ago.
For hand writing i suggest using Rnote and for normal keyboard writing I suggest Joplin. Keep it synced using cloud provider or using Syncthing for free.
About organizational structure in Rnote I unfortunatelly recommend just saving files in a structure of folders. Rnote is the most polished alternative to hand-writing capabilities of OneNote I’ve found :c
About importing notes. I don’t think that’s possible but you can surely export them all to PDF from OneNote. I did that when I migrated.
Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll check out Rnote sometime soon.
(As I said, I do like the writing & drawing features of xournal++; and so I’ve been doing a bit of basic file / folder organising with that already; but it certainly isn’t as easily browseable as OneNote.)
While OneNote for Windows 10 still has roughly half a year, Microsoft will start nagging users with update prompts much earlier. For starters, in June 2025, Microsoft will slow down the app’s sync performance, thus forcing customers to ditch the old app, especially those using OneNote on multiple devices or for real-time collaboration.
Next, in July 2025, banners will make their way to OneNote for Windows 10 to make sure users are aware of the upcoming end of support. Microsoft says these banners “could impact users workflows.” You do not say, Microsoft.
Wait. You’re gonna throttle them and then wait a month to tell them why you’re throttling them? What?
Thats so shitty
Everyong recommending Obsidian in the comments, where are Logseq users?
I stopped using it since they keep not updating the electron version they are using. It took them forever to update after electron 28 went EOL and they updated to a version that would go EOL about a week later, which they have been on ever since…
Edit: They just bumped to a supported version, but only in master. It’s still unknown when a release with a supported electron version is coming.
Well shit. Time to rip my own files because their migration stuff is going to be all Microsoft proprietary.
I really liked OneNote.
Me too :( but it looks like it’s time to jump ship and migrate all my content to a new app.
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Microsoft is working hard to get you to transition to a Linus Distribution. Thank you microsoft for your hard work and dedication.
People will never switch. I see at my work how colleagues just learn how to accept the endless shit without even reacting to it anymore.
Like US politics… 🤮
Every time Netflix raises prices their subscriber numbers jump. There are people out there who pay for Netflix with ads.
I have some niche software for my racecar I can’t seem to get to run on Linux and it’s the only reason I’m still on Windows. Although now that I’ve finally got a new desktop, I can dual boot again.
Oh and I run a few games via the Xbox app so that kinda keeps me on there as well.
I have a copy of Techstream for my Toyotas that will only run on Windows. My laptop is set up to run it inside an XP VM with USB passthrough. Works just fine that way.
Yeah I might just set my laptop to be my only Windows device. I still don’t think there’s a way around the Xbox app though.
Looks like I made a good decision deciding to move from onenote to obsidian last month. I like that it is a fancy mark down editor so I can just move my text files some where else if I decide to not use Obsidian in the future. When it comes to onenote functionality of being able to draw or paste where ever I want the excalidraw plugin which is open source has met my needs.
Been nice to move to something that is multi platform.
Obsidian is a fancy markdown editor with metadata, sync, indexing, data querying and views and a lively ecosystem of plugins. It has everything except being open source.
It would be incredible to have a self hosted web UI but that’s a tall ask. Instead I’ve been using Quartz to generate a static site from hot reloading which seems to cover this end to a degree.
I use QOwnNotes. It is open source and works with nextcloud/owncloud, files are stored in plain text so if you wanted to switch to something else it should be pretty simple.
Until they make a proper upgrade to my surface 10, I will have no other choice but to stay on the windows 10 version.
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Surface Linux Kernel. Surface 10 supported.
Some distros of Linux that have SLK rolled in:
- Based on fedora
- Made by GloriousEggroll who also is responsible for protonGE a great derivative of the Steam Proton compatibility layer for playing windows games on Linux
- Development and maintaining it is done by a single dude, so if something happens to him, that’s the project done, this is not in the Pros section.
- for when you really just want your surface device to be running Android
- immutable distro, makes it easier to undo fuck ups, and often prevents them happening at all
- seems fairly mature and robust, I don’t know for a fact as I haven’t used it
- for when you want to put a bit more effort in
- the instructions here are from building Gentoo locally using and Arch LiveISO
- FOR WHEN YOU WANT TO PUT MORE EFFORT IN
These were the really easy to find options. There’s absolutely going to be more that have SLK rolled in…but that’s not actually necessary, as the SLK git has easy to follow instructions on rolling it into whatever distro might interest you. The whole Linux universe is your oyster.
I have a Surface Pro 4, and I run Nobara, works great, better than windows. There are some hardware things that don’t 100% work on some surface devices. Here is the Supported device list and Features Matrix. Looks like the SP10 doesn’t like to hibernate, and doesn’t have working cameras atm.
Doesn’t really solve my OneNote problem, as I run it on no fewer than 7 macOS, windows, iOS, and android devices.
Joplin has apps for all UNIX-likes(Mac, Win and Lin,) iOS(phone and pad variants), and Android. It can import Evernote and OneNote. It’s built to E2EE notes to cloud services, currently supporting: Joplin Cloud, Nextcloud, S3, WebDAV, Dropbox, OneDrive or the local file system.
If you’d like to fully tell M$ to get fucked…I can recommend self hosting NextCloud.
Not incredibly difficult to set up, I’m fairly fluent in Linux systems…but by no means a “Wizard”, and my self hosting knowledge is extremely minimal.There’s other options out there, but Joplin has all the apps…
Do any of those focus primarily on handwriting for input and support macOS, android, and windows for offline input?
See point #2. Hand written notes can be kept as is, one thing that’s not mentioned in that link is that Joplin can also use OCR to change handwriting to typed.
That’s a Markdown editor with a separate drawing tool, not a notes app focused on handwriting. You can’t annotate a PDF or typed text or edit a drawing after it’s been created.
Not at all comparable.
@Sturgist
Just dont why this executable is growing as hell in size… Look at the windows exe sizehttps://github.com/laurent22/joplin/releases
Oct 23 : 229mb
Now : 324mbSince you tagged @realitista@lemm.ee I’ll do the same so they see my counter…argument?
In it’s first release(2017) it was 50.3MB.
In Nov, 2024, it was 340MB. Oct, 2024, 327MB
6th Jan, 2024: 266MB
24th Oct, 2023: 229MB
21st Oct, 2023: 180MB
30th Jul, 2023: 214MB
23rd Jun, 2023: 196MBThis is a very active project, things are added constantly, then optimised or tweaked or removed. Going through the releases it looks like their install packages get bigger over the span of a few months, then through optimisation gets shrunk down again. The above numbers are only for the windows full install package, but all their different packages have a very similar pattern of bloat followed by trimming. I don’t see how this is weird at all.
What about this is actually concerning for you?
Big thanks for this. Been thinking about what to do with my daughter’s Surface Book once Win10 is EOL and it looks like Nobara will be the first and hopefully final stop.
No worries bud! It really makes me angry what M$ is doing here, obviously they’re not alone in being a cause of our eWaste “addiction”…but this is really a situation that should be opening people’s eyes. Apple is bad for it too. Their laptops have a fairly short lifecycle, and unless you want/can to put Linux on your MacBook whatever, it’s no longer secure after usually about 5 years. Intentionally driving the disposable culture, buy, use briefly, replace for arguably too much, repeat.
Have her try Nobara for a week, but tell her it’s hardly the only option! With how easy it is to include SLK into (almost?) any distro, I really wasn’t kidding when I said the Linux Universe is your oyster! Hell, you could compile your own distro if you’re a masochist!
I like Joplin, it could work for me but about 6 months ago I had to quit. My use case is against my s3 instance (not amazon) with 3 devices syncing. It became corrupt everytime.
Has this improved?
