I always wanted to pursue CS as my majors but due to the recent news of SWE getting fired changed my mind
Now I’m confused about what to opt for my bachelors. Should I take CS or a Management degree?
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I found this book extremely helpful.
Discover What You Are Best At by Linda Gail.
Six self-tests you can finish in half a day, and then a list of jobs that use those skills.
Pointed me to a career I’d never considered.
There are probably a lot of things you haven’t even thought of.
CS related degrees are useless. Tech is something that you need to be constantly on top of and perpetually trying to expand your skills and knowledge. Assuming you have a strong foundation in math and logic, a degree in CS will not help you much.
My degree is in finance with a minor in philosophy. All knowledge technology knowledge I have is self taught, but I was able to mix my love of technology and my finance education to enjoy a good run in fintech and infosec.
If you want to pursue CS because you can make money (you did say the alternative was mgmt), DON’T. We don’t need more of you in our industry. It used to be fun before all the would-be lawyers and would-be doctors who don’t care about tech got here. Study literature or something. Leave tech alone.
Edit: self-taught, no degree.
I was more interested in programming back then. I even learned java in highschool. I never said I wasn’t interested in programming but you gotta see the reality too
Passion doesn’t always bring money at home. There is a reason why animators and artists aren’t paid as much as they deserve (I’m not talking about the top 1%)
Management will take you further and give you many more and different doors to open
Computer Science will have a grind in it and maybe one day you make it big with something but it will require long hours and many difficult days and coworkers
thats just my perspective as a person who has been in IT for almost 30 years
Just take whatever calls to you. AI isnt going to affect anything long term, but if you dont actually like software engineering you have no chance when you are competing with applicants for jobs who wholeheartedly love the craft.
If you are planning to use AI at any point in your education, save yourself the time and money and just take management. There is no future for your AI-mangled lack of ability in our industry.
but if you dont actually like software engineering you have no chance when you are competing with applicants for jobs
It’s called faking enthusiasm and got me every job I had. I hate my job and can’t compete at all with the hotshot kiddos pouring all their lifeforce into it.
But I stay under the radar, rake in the same amount of cash they do, and stop work at 5pm while they are working till midnight and on weekends for some reason.
A degree in management is useless. “Management” isn’t a job, it’s a title. You still need to be skilled at something useful to manage other people. These kinds of degrees are for football players that have to have a degree and the party crowd that needs training on how to be a functioning human. This is a perfect degree if you want a soul-sucking job in megacorp HR or banal white collar office management leading a team of minimum wage temps. IMO, learn a productive skill instead.
The CS market is very saturated (at least in the US). I’m a lead software dev responsible for hiring and probably 90% of the resumes I get are from people needing H1B sponsorship; this is where the saturation is coming from. Most of the candidates are pretty weak with an increasing over reliance on AI assistance, so if you have a knack for programming using your own brain, you should go for it. Just be prepared for a long and draining job hunt.
I already know java from my high school (cuz I was interested back then) but after looking at the current number of layoffs I’m scared to opt for CS
And is it true that AI is going to make SWE’s work more efficient and create more jobs? Or is it just people coping?
IMO AI is a bubble and it will burst in the next year or two. We use AI at work and there are benefits, but I do not believe AI will be replacing anyone other than the absolute bottom of the talent pool. It’s mostly going to accelerate the productivity of developers (creating more value for the company with no increase in wages for you, of course).
Mass layoffs happen every couple years in the software world. One of Microsoft, Google, Salesforce, Oracle, etc. will do layoffs and the rest will do it too “because market conditions”. They’ll then rehire that many people 6 months later. It’s a tool they use to clean out lower performers and replace them without having to go through the arduous process of firing someone for performance reasons. The US economy is going to shit right now, so that’s giving them an excuse to do it; it’s not a sign that the software industry is in trouble.
I would go with CS. It’s very easy later to switch to management with a CS background, but it’s im possible to switch to CS with å management background.
*Manglement
They say programmers will be replaced eventually with ai. Already it helps me with my job.
But you can already replace management with ai.
Their job doesn’t require ai. Just a spreadsheet lol
By management I meant BBA (Bachelors of Business Administration) for getting a job in Management Consulting
Would companies trust AI to make those decisions which is done by management consultants?
Already it helps me with my job
You mean AI?
Yes. I use ai like a junior dev I dont have to babysit.
I could replace all my managers all the way up to CEO with ai.
Today.
Learning logic is good.
Learning how to “manage” people who do logic?
Unnecessary.
The ai apocalypse will mean more demand for coders and logicians and less demand for those who understand basic accounting and expect to be paid more than those who do the actual work.
Thanks. That perspective was quite helpful
I could be wrong but short of a legally protected ruling class the ruling class cannot exist for much longer.
