In a joint statement following talks, Xi Jinping and Putin stated that the war in Ukraine could only be resolved by removing its “root causes”.

Such formulation clearly echoes key Russian propaganda messages used by the Kremlin to justify the launch of the full-scale war, including the threat of NATO expansion, discrimination against Russian-speaking people and the suppression of the Russian language, culture and media in Ukraine.

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    The root cause is putin, his nazi based wagner group and russia imperial expansion of colonies. Russia seems to be the only major power that is still expanding territories in modern times. Unless Trump decides to invade Greenland.

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    I agree. The war in Ukraine can only truly be resolved by removing it’s root causes. Remove Putin, and the war ends.

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      I would go one step further and remove all of the imperialist thinking in Russia, just to be on the safe side.

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        Why don’t we split that shit up? Russia is so large and has so few people in comparison they might as well be a bunch of smaller states who can’t threaten their neighbors like that.

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          Ah yes partitioning by foreign powers has always gone so well in the past! Why don’t we try that again? I mean just look at Israel/Palestine and India/Pakistan! What great success stories 🥲

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              Ah yes the breakup of the USSR went incredibly well, good thing there’s no ongoing conflicts over disputed territory from that split up going on in Ukraine

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          Denuclearise them too, but to assure them stability, promise to protect them.

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            Give Ukraine their nuclear arsenal back for breach of contract.

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          Russia is essentially a small state with a couple of centuries of imperialist thinking.

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      I want to note that the war has broad support among the Russian public, so while it might not be Ukraine they’ll attack another one of their neighbors if only Putin is removed. See: Georgia, Chechnya.

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        Worth noting that it is illegal in Russia to criticize the war, so saying you don’t support it is probably a good way to get yourself sent to the front lines in an infantry uniform. So, it’s difficult to gauge how many people actually genuinely support it or not.

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      The doctrine of the EU so far, is to consider China a multi-faced player: a partner for cooperation, an economic competitor and a systemic rival (e.g. it’s possible to cooperate with China on climate, but not on human rights).

      So far, China has also been a multi-faced player. Xi has patted Putin on the back and declared “unlimited partnership”, but no Chinese weapons have been seen in Ukraine. Chinese soldiers have been observed there, but they seem to be really few for a country of that size - either mercenaries or people obtaining first hand experience under mercenary cover. Too few to matter as soldiers.

      China has warm trade relations with Russia and has helped Russia source technology and endure sanctions. However, they haven’t made a special and dedicated effort to insulate Russia from secondary sanctions, and several Chinese companies have applied sanctions on Russia as a result.

      On other occasions, Chinese representatives have said nice words about Ukraine’s territorial integrity. But deeds haven’t followed.

      In UN votes about Ukraine, China often abstains.

      Officially, China doesn’t sell drones to Russia or Ukraine. In reality, both Ukrainian and Russian drones are full of Chinese parts. Ukrainian government is asking every bigger player to have a plan B that works without China, but few really have one. What Russian government asks of their drone makers, I don’t know.

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    Of course they would. They need a justification for when they decide to invade Taiwan.

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    Fuck China, can’t believe people are falling for their propaganda these days when they directly support Putfuck and his war machine and then have the gall to talk about honor and respect. China is still an evil dictatorship and every day we should be reminded of that.

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      I would say something but trying to think logically alone is good enough to realise why china would even have this relationship

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    Anyone here understands geopolitics and the cornering of Russia by NATO (read: the US plus European vassals) or are you just talking out of vibes? Anyone here remembers the 2011 US coup on Ukraine and what it led to? It’s a bit more complex than what the commenters here believe, lol.

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      Just because a country does not side with russia, it is a US vassal. These US “vassal” are refusing to import chlorinated chicken from US. what kind of vassal refuse trade with their “master”.

      You left out russian invasion, coups, separatists, and terrorism inside Ukraine, Donbas.

      Instead of filling your head with propaganda, take a look at the map and russia borders and coasts. Measure the length of the russia border. Now measure the length of the Nato border with russia before the Ukraine war. No way is russia cornered.

      The most peaceful borders of russia with the least number of border troops are along NATO borders.

      NATO and other reasons are just excuses made for different sheeps/audience. Russia wanted the warm water ports in Ukraine’s Crimea and the water supply to crimea from Ukraine’s Donbas and eventually link up to Tranistria. It is just expansionism. Empire building. Putin already admitted it during the interview with Carlson.

      It is not complicated. Complexity was created because different sheeps needed different reasons to support russia, like NATO for some, Nazis or LGBTQ and etc, for others,

      Russia has zero security issue since they have most nukes in the world. They also have most land to shelter from nukes. They are already surrounded by nuclear powers like France, china, nkorea and etc. It is other countries that have genuine security issues with russia, its nukes, and imperial expansionism

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      So what is the standard rusbot argument for Nato expanding through willing submissions from new countries where Russias policy with their neighbors is beating them into submission where possible?

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        Don’t forget, just like NATO, russia is also expanding with pen and paper through CSTO. Russia is doing both, expansion through CSTO and expansion of territories through bombs, guns, and tresspassing.

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      The only coup is coming from Russia, and yes get your facts straight

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        This has to be a joke, they couldn’t even get the year correctly and it’s been drilled into them. Right???

        edit: nvm, likely a puppet, checked the account

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          I got the year wrong BECAUSE it hasn’t been drilled into my head, lol. I just believe it’s more complex than simply “Russia bad”, especially in the face of NATO expansionism. I’m not emotionally attached though, which is why I can actually freely learn about it, unlike others who can’t conceive anything outside of “Russia bad, China bad, West good”…

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            It’s actually that simple. Why complicate things. If you bothered to look at Putin a history, you would know what he had been up to all this time.

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              Fair enough, my bad. And here I thought geopolitics were complex affairs, I should’ve just hated Eurasia and Oceania like daddy told me to.

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                The problem with people like you is that you don’t think, you repeat. You “think” you are the singular “enlightened” among a sea of propaganda-eating idiots, while saying the same shit Russia pushes to try to justify invading a sovereign country.

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                  I’m not immune to propaganda and I make mistakes like everyone else. Again, all I said is that it’s more complex than “America and Western Europe good, Russia and China bad” and people are throwing tantrums…