Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.

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    Unpopular opinion here; but there’s no way an impeachment would succeed and a failed impeachment strengthens Trump’s position with his base.

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    Just remember many liberals try to tell the democratic party is different than the republican party. Just remember both are bought by PACS and oligarchs

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    AOC might be testing the party. She should know who is going to vote for impeachment before the vote.
    Apparently there are still majority of congress critters who will ride the horse of greed right into the ground then think they can call a cab.

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    Despicable. The Democrats are a shell of what they used to be. How fucking pathetic, but also expected.

    Time to vote 'em out, folks! Eyes on 2026 & 2028, if we make it that far!

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    There are probably a dozen things they could (and should) impeach Trump for. This isn’t actually one of them. Presidents are authorized to do air strikes.

    The left is usually not as ignorant of the facts as the right, but this is one of those cases where the left is ignoring the facts. The President has authorization from Congress to do limited military action. Should all of the Presidents before been impeached for doing similar one-off air strikes? Seems you want to impeach Trump based on dumb memes about this being the start of WWIII rather it being an air strike.

    Did Obama get impeached for sending a SEAL Team into Pakistan without getting authorization from congress?

    Also Iran does in fact have a nuclear weapons program. The civilian reactor is supplied Uranium from Russia that’s already enriched to around 5% which is what you use for civilian energy generation. Iran had Uranium enriched to 60% which isn’t useful for civilian reactors and none of the Uranium enriched in Iran is used in their one civilian nuclear reactor. The UN has reported that Iran is keeping secrets from them and there’s been an increase in their Uranium enrichment, which again is entirely a weapons program, the uranium for civilian use comes from Russia.

    So congratulations, instead of impeaching Trump for doing all of the corruption, or for deploying Marines on US soil without authorization, or for falsely declaring everything an emergency so he can do stupid tariff stuff, you’ve created a narrative that the left tried to impeach him for protecting Americans from the “Death to America” country’s nuclear weapons. I guess the left is fine with the corruption and deploying the military within the US, but only take action to come to the defense of the Ayatollah’s nuclear weapons program.

    The left only seems to want to attack Trump when they have non-existent chance of winning or even convincing anyone of their position. On issues where the left has a strong case, they do nothing.

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    I’m not saying chill out about the attack, I’m saying chill out about the impeachment vote. It was a failure from the start. Democrats aren’t fascist for voting against it. The only real effect of voting against it is that it saved us two months of republican’s soundbites about how “trump derangement syndrome is so bad it’s making them want to take away the ability to defend America” and shit like that.

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    The US is an inescapable hell. I pity the people living there right now.

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    Here’s the full list of House Democrats who voted to table the impeachment articles.

    Pete Aguilar (California)
    Gabe Amo (Rhode Island)
    Jake Auchincloss (Massachusetts)
    Wesley Bell (Missouri)
    Ami Bera (California)
    Don Beyer (Virginia)
    Sanford Bishop (Georgia)
    Julia Brownley (California)
    Nikki Budzinski (Illinois)
    Janelle Bynum (Oregon)
    Salud Carbajal (California)
    Andre Carson (Indiana)
    Ed Case (Hawaii)
    Sean Casten (Illinois)
    Kathy Castor (Florida)
    Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick (Florida)
    Katherine Clark (Massachusetts)
    Emanuel Cleaver (Missouri)
    Jim Clyburn (South Carolina)
    Herb Conaway (New Jersey)
    Lou Correa (California)
    Jim Costa (California)
    Joe Courtney (Connecticut)
    Angie Craig (Minnesota)
    Jason Crow (Colorado)
    Henry Cuellar (Texas)
    Sharice Davids (Kansas)
    Don Davis (North Carolina)
    Madeleine Dean (Pennsylvania)
    Rosa DeLauro (Connecticut)
    Suzan DelBene (Washington)
    Chris Deluzio (Pennsylvania)
    Debbie Dingell (Michigan)
    Sarah Elfreth (Maryland)
    Cleo Fields (Louisiana)
    Shomari Figures (Alabama)
    Lizzie Fletcher (Texas)
    Bill Foster (Illinois)
    Lois Frankel (Florida)
    Laura Gillen (New York)
    Jared Golden (Maine)
    Dan Goldman (New York)
    Vicente Gonzalez (Texas)
    Maggie Goodlander (New Hampshire)
    Josh Gottheimer (New Jersey)
    Adam Gray (California)
    Josh Harder (California)
    Jim Himes (Connecticut)
    Steven Horsford (Nevada)
    Chrissy Houlahan (Pennsylvania)
    Steny Hoyer (Maryland)
    Val Hoyle (Oregon)
    Hakeem Jeffries (New York)
    Julie Johnson (Texas)
    Marcy Kaptur (Ohio)
    Bill Keating (Massachusetts)
    Timothy Kennedy (New York)
    Ro Khanna (California)
    Greg Landsman (Ohio)
    Rick Larsen (Washington)
    John Larson (Connecticut)
    George Latimer (New York)
    Susie Lee (Nevada)
    Mike Levin (California)
    Sam Liccardo (California)
    Ted Lieu (California)
    Zoe Lofgren (California)
    Stephen Lynch (Massachusetts)
    Seth Magaziner (Rhode Island)
    John Mannion (New York)
    Lucy McBath (Georgia)
    Sarah McBride (Delaware)
    April McClain Delaney (Maryland)
    Jennifer McClellan (Virginia)
    Betty McCollum (Minnesota)
    Kristen McDonald Rivet (Michigan)
    Morgan McGarvey (Kentucky)
    Gregory Meeks (New York)
    Grace Meng (New York)
    Kweisi Mfume (Maryland)
    Joe Morelle (New York)
    Kelly Morrison (Minnesota)
    Jared Moskowitz (Florida)
    Seth Moulton (Massachusetts)
    Frank Mrvan (Indiana)
    Richard Neal (Massachusetts)
    Joe Neguse (Colorado)
    Johnny Olszewski (Maryland)
    Frank Pallone (New Jersey)
    Jimmy Panetta (California)
    Chris Pappas (New Hampshire)
    Nancy Pelosi (California)
    Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (Washington)
    Scott Peters (California)
    Brittany Pettersen (Colorado)
    Nellie Pou (New Jersey)
    Mike Quigley (Illinois)
    Jamie Raskin (Maryland)
    Josh Riley (New York)
    Deborah Ross (North Carolina)
    Pat Ryan (New York)
    Andrea Salinas (Oregon)
    Mary Gay Scanlon (Pennsylvania)
    Brad Schneider (Illinois)
    Hillary Scholten (Michigan)
    Kim Schrier (Washington)
    Bobby Scott (Virginia)
    Terri Sewell (Alabama)
    Adam Smith (Washington)
    Eric Sorensen (Illinois)
    Darren Soto (Florida)
    Greg Stanton (Arizona)
    Haley Stevens (Michigan)
    Marilyn Strickland (Washington)
    Suhas Subramanyam (Virginia)
    Tom Suozzi (New York)
    Emilia Sykes (Ohio)
    Paul Tonko (New York)
    Ritchie Torres (New York)
    Lori Trahan (Massachusetts)
    Derek Tran (California)
    Lauren Underwood (Illinois)
    Juan Vargas (California)
    Gabe Vasquez (New Mexico)
    Marc Veasey (Texas)
    Eugene Vindman (Virginia)
    Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
    George Whitesides (California)
    
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      My representative, who is generally a pretty progressive guy, is on this list. A local journalist asked about his vote, and the statement from his office was that the congressman is waiting for a classified briefing on the Iran strikes to help determine whether the president broke the law.

      I know that we live in a world where we expect not only a 24-hour news cycle, but 24-hour resolutions to all issues. Having a solid argument and proper evidence for impeachment is the sort of thing that moves more slowly than we would like.

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      Ah, Jim Clyburn, the jackass who helped Biden win the primary and put us on the path to the second Trump term.

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        I hate that motherfucker with a seething red hot vengeful rage and I dont understand why that motherfucker keeps winding up in interviews.

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      Really appreciate it. I’ve been telling myself I need to start adding to the emails of my reps, and used this list as the reason to start.

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    He’s already been impeached twice in his previous presidency, he shouldn’t even be sitting where he’s at