How is kindness a bad thing? I thought that was universally agreed to be a good message to have in a piece of media. I guess the excuse is they don’t want media to have messages at all but like, how would you even have a movie where the hero has no values that they stand for?

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    I’m curious how this movie is, I’m used to the older ones and a show called Smallvile.

    I did not know there was some anger about this Superman movie. Anyone could quick give me a small summary?

    Though bit bummed out that they keep remaking movies and shows instead of making new ones.

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      I 100% expected this movie to suck and was even saying up to its release that it would flop.

      I’ve seen all the Superman movies since the 80s. And all the TV shows.

      This is my favorite movie.

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      This movie won me over when I saw Krypto and the fortress Bots. That’s the kind of stuff I’ve always wanted, but then idiots like Bryan Singer and Christopher Nolan (who clearly hate and are embarrassed by the source material) show up and want to make everything dark and “realistic” so characters like krypto don’t make it to the movies. Fuck realism, im watching a movie about a super alien fighting monsters, i don’t want realism in my comic book movies

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        I like realism. I also like fantasy. It’s interesting to see different people takes on these characters imo. I think it would be boring if every time they make a new Superman franchise it was exactly like the last one.

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        I don’t think Christopher Nolan wasn’t embarrassed by Batman and he only made a standalone trilogy. If he was embarrassed by Batman, he wouldn’t have included an homage to Adam West Batman.

        Singer and Synder are just edgelords. You can find them at any comic book store arguing about something stupid, but tolerated longer then they should be because they spend the most money.

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          On the Synder track, 300 is just a really uncomfortable movie. It’s a propaganda movie for a hell-state.

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            Isn’t that like the point? The whole movie is visualization of the propaganda speech that the narrator (Dilios) is making before the battle of Plataea.

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              Did anyone walk away from that movie thinking “this is an unreliable narrator story and we shouldn’t take the fash-y elements at face value” or was it “damn the Spartans were bad ass”?

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                I thought it was weird that the “Heroes” threw deformed babies off a cliff and then when one of the deformed babies who survived, took the opportunity to betray the Spartans. What did Miller and Snyder mean by that?

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      Anyone could quick give me a small summary?

      James Gunn commented that Superman is an immigrant, and conservatives are losing their minds

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        People on Facebook are telling me he isn’t an immigrant, he’s from outer space. I’m so confused as to what they think an immigrant is

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          Apparently there is a black version of Superman in some comics and they were making a movie of him. Sadly, the movie has been cancelled.

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            To be fair, the cancelled movie would have been with Will Smith. I’m ok being without a Will Smith Superman movie. Steel did get his own movie, but without any Superman IP in it.

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        But that’s nothing new. In Smallville there is one episode in which Clark literally said to his mother Martha that he is an illegal alien too.

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        That’s all? That’s why they’re upset? Sigh, it’s as if someone accidentally farts and then they rage.

        Isn’t he kinda right though? If I remember well, Superman came from another planet.

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          There are two plausible explanations:

          1. People think immigrant refers to a person who chose to move. Since Superman didn’t arrive on Earth by choice, he’s not an immigrant. This is, of course, incorrect.

          2. People think the term immigrant only refers to people who look “different” compared to what is common in the region. This is, of course, racist.

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            If they’re okay with immigrants who didn’t come by choice, then all the children who were brought to America illegally by their parents should be allowed to stay and everyone born in America should be allowed to stay citizens.

            As for Superman not looking like an immigrant, it is actually a big coincidence in-universe that he happens to look like a white human. There’s no Europe on Krypton.

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              As for Superman not looking like an immigrant, it is actually a big coincidence in-universe that he happens to look like a white human. There’s no Europe on Krypton.

              Now I want an alternate-universe Superman who happens to be black, and lands in racist-as-hell-ville in the rural USA.