You can’t just tuck the wings back in the same way because the feathers will get stuck on the shirt when going against the grain. I imagine it’s easier to pull the shirt up from the bottom and have the wings stretched out over his head.
My thoughts exactly
Bro were talking about a fictional character from a fictional humanoid race that has wings. I feel like arguing about the mechanics of fabric pulling on a feather is a bit… Pointless
I used to own birds growing up, and I’ve felt the obvious drag of feathers on fabric. Forgive me for not letting go of the vivid memory I have.
Again, fictional character from a fictional race. Feel like comparing them to birds is just weirdly pedantic. You’re not the only one here doing it. I just legitimately don’t get it
What are you on about? The archetypal angel wings are distinctly made of adult bird feathers, so it’s natural to assume that these are too without indication of it being otherwise. Or what, are generic centaur bottom halves not meant to be hairy even though they’re archetypically based on horses? Of course I would expect distinctly coarse hair if I were to touch them because I have touched horses before.
And what’s more, out of context, this graphic makes no special case of commenting on a character specifically but rather its main point is about the logistics of putting on and taking off a wife beater with a pair of wings attached to your back. And somehow you’re griping about people following the logic in the comments? If you’re so dead-set about it being about the specific character, then why did you cut out the context in the first place?
Or what, am I supposed to be familiar with every single winged character out there that ever existed to know their particular details about their wings? I’m clearly going off on derivative works of the most generic ancient Greek mythology that was based on real life animals.
Weirdly pedantic my ass, this is some basic reasoning based on personal life experience. Rather, how weirdly controlling of you instead to not even allow for related comments to exist in their own space.
I feel like it’s a bit pointless
I just legitimately don’t get it.
I’ll take your point under advisement, and I do see it, but I don’t want to continue this conversation. Thank you though for elaborating though. I do, however, still stand by the fact that it is a fictional magical being and applying real world feathers of birds to this doesn’t make sense. To a bird? Yes. To a creature that does not exist and has had wings described in a variety of ways? No. At that point I do feel like it is completely pedantic to try and nail a specific explanation of how something cannot work to something that doesn’t exist and has had numerous iterations.
But I wasn’t being antagonistic, I’m sorry if it came off that way, but I’ve got my own personal hell going on and I’m not in the mood to deal with this level of unnecessary hostility over a set of fictional wings. Have a good day.
I wasn’t being antagonistic
Then don’t call people weirdly pedantic when they’ve explained it was based on personal experience? How else do you expect me to respond to that? Lol
Then don’t call people weirdly pedantic when they’ve explained it was based on personal experience?
I didn’t.
Feel like comparing them to birds is just weirdly pedantic.
I said that applying the logic of a birds wings to a non-existent magical creature taking off a shirt and dismissing it out of hand entirely based off of that singular comparison alone is weirdly pedantic. I never said you were.
You’re just looking for a fight at this point and I’ve got no interest in it. Just blocking you and moving on. Have a good day.
My character circumnavigates the issue by snipping the shoulders of his tank top open, sliding it on from the legs, and then reattaching the shoulders with mending.
There is a haibane renmei reference here somewhere
Anyone who has wings (particularly if you have… ehhem. adult-sized wings) knows this is impractical, and it’s way better to just use snaps or buttons.
Guess it works if you got tiny ass wings that wouldn’t lift anything. Bumblebee ass mfer
Fun fact I found out recently, we figured out how bumble bees fly sometime in the past decade.
In short, at that scale the laws of aerodynamics as we know them break down and the bees are basically swimming in air instead of flying.
Tiny wings are very much capable of lifting heavy things, but they have to flap super quickly. Humming birds have really tiny wings compared to their size, but since they never glide, it’s not important. The bigger issue is the position of the wings.
Since the line between the center of mass and center of force (the wings) is not perfectly vertical, Pit would lean forward during flight. His body would be suspended under his wings. This means his body is blocking most of the wind generated by his wings. So he would have to exert even more force to stay flying. Plus, your arms would get super sore when all that force is pushing them forward.
It should also be noted that Put doesn’t have the musculature to support this level of force. His biceps are connected to his arms, not his wings, so he must have a separate set of muscles specifically for his wings. The only suitable anchor points are his ribs and spine, but in no art do we see the require muscle groups around his shoulder blades.
In short: I don’t think this is real, guys.
Hummingbirds get lift on both strokes, forward and back, and require an extremely specialized set of wings to do so.
In regards to your comment about muscles for lift, birds have a “keel bone” (like a boat) which is where the anchors for their wing muscles are. Equivalent to our sternum. So the muscles for flight in the image would be on the front, not the ribs or spine.
I thought about that, but I don’t think that makes sense in this situation. The wings and arms must use different muscle groups, and the biceps would be used for the arms, not the wings. Furthermore, since the wings are on the back of Pit, the muscles would either have to wrap around the rib cage or go through them, constricting the lungs.
I’m not sure what your comments about the arms have to do with anything. Your sternum is on your chest, wings on your back, I’m not understanding why you’re talking about arms.
In regards to muscles having to wrap around the rib cage, that’s exactly how birds wing muscles work.
So the bicep and tricep of birds, let’s just use chickens since most people will be familiar with them, are mostly responsible for in flight control.
That’s the drumette. The flat, the one with two bones, are for controlling the very tip of the wing, for maneuvering. Notably these muscles are kinda big compared to the body size of the bird. About 6 inches around. If a human were the size of a chicken our biceps would be something like an inch around in comparison.
For liftoff, and staying aloft, birds have slightly different muscle groups. This is the breast meat. Bird chest muscles are ridiculously huge compared to their bodies. They don’t really have abs, the have chest muscles down their entire torso. Chickens are kind of mutants and aren’t really good examples anymore but birds universally have absolutely BADONKERS chests.
Basically what I’m saying is: If Pit were drawn by Rob Liefeld, he’d be closer to obtaining flight.
What if he’s just really really light
yeah i think they’re just kind of magical little wings that make pit able to float or something
I’m a grower I swear.
That’s what we all say. I mean they
I would be so afraid to snap a feather when undressing
I would guess that if you had wings with feathers you’d be intimately knowledgeable on the tensile strength of them
You would think but tell that to the number of times I break a nail doing routine shit
Lmao, true
Wings wound not “slide out” so easily when taking off the top. They only slide one direction.
Most important, wings of the span necessary to carry a 40-50 kg person wouldn’t fit inside the arm holes of a tank top, or work with this technique.
If we are getting realistic, a pair of wings is always accompanied by a very big pair of chest muscles. Imagine a human with pectorals in proportion to the body as a dove.
With the marvel of modern engineering, they do pretty compact wings able to carry 80kg humans, https://youtu.be/ilx8Ch0eOR4 (Sorry for sharing marketing video)
So in a fantasy world, you could imagine so compact wing part of human body
Yeah dog, that’s still an 8 m wingspan with an area of 14 m², those are some biiiiiiig wings.
>1999€
Damn.
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You don’t slide them out, silly you roll the shirt up, and take it off inside out.
So, they need a shoehorn like device the cover the wings and allow sliding?
Is keeping the shirt from flipping inside out a requirement for some reason?
I imagine it would be more like lift the bottom front of the shirt over the top of your head and tuck behind neck so that full chest is exposed, fold arms in to insert hand through arm hole on same side as that arm and then push arms forward to leave shirt hanging off wings, reach behind while leaning back to grab and pull shirt off wings downward in direction of feathers.
Either that or how my wife takes off her bras that don’t have clasps, push shoulder straps over and down arms, lift arms out so only chest band is holding on, then push the whole thing down chest and over hips and step out of it. That way it doesn’t have to go up and over the breasts.push the whole thing down chest and over hips and step out of it
Huh. Does she don it by stepping into it, or does her entire body pass through the bra with each don-doff cycle?
They’re fictional, mate. Humans don’t have wings. You gonna harp on that, too?
Lemmy has a bit of an issue with taking memes or random stuff seriously. I’ve noticed it in a lot of my posts. Me often just saying “It is a meme” in response.
Eh, sometimes “It’s just a joke” is a copout to shittiness. This is just someone’s OC, though, and people are here criticizing the wing size as if it matters. smh
Hasn’t been a copout yet. It’s always been in response to the above type of energy. Of someone um actuallying a meme because there is a difference in the meme to how reality is. It’s bizarre.
Here is the source: https://www.tumblr.com/ask-crow-aus/759912849861754880/slytherin-assassin-lattemonstr-aishishiii . It is one reblog further down, as slytherin-assassin deactivated their blog and lattemonstr apparently has no post on their blog, probably deleted when they moved on to a different blog.
