• LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works
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    This is not about social media bans, it’s against the corrupt government. It’s being reframed. If you think about it, if the only problem was social media ban, they’d just all get vpns. They’re not stupid. They’re trying to frame it as silly kids, (because they’re all gen z and Gen alpha, in their school uniforms, so as to be less likely to be shot) who can’t live without social media. But it’s not, it’s protesting deep government corruption. If word gets out that it’s a protest against government corruption, other people facing similar oppression, may become emboldened, so it’s being buried.

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      Yep. Running the standard playbook. They wouldn’t do it, if it wasn’t so effective. Today they’d be calling the Boston Tea Party a bunch of anti-caffeine health nuts.

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        The American Revolution happened because colonizers didn’t want to help repay Britain for its help in the French Indian War.

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      if the only problem was social media ban, they’d just all get vpns. They’re not stupid.

      This is a major leap in logic. I’m not saying your point is wrong, but plenty of people won’t get VPNs because they are too ignorant to see the value in them.

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      Bear in mind that the riot in Nepal only started after the peaceful student protests was shot at by the police first. The No Kings protest hasn’t been tried to be violently quelled to warrant a public riot, yet.

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        This.

        I’ve been saying over and over (down in that R-named shithole that banned me for a short comment approving of revolution,) some folks are gonna have to take a big L to kick it off here.

        The first 50 or so Luigi’s will be dealt with harshly as examples; the public will buy the reasons fed to them and think of them as fucking monsters.

        50 or so and people will start to take notice and see what needs to be accomplished here. Why do so many people hate CEOs? Hell, today, why would some “crazy person” want to hurt Charlie Kirk???

        One more of that 50 got his metaphorical wings today.

        Hmmm.

        They’ll think, and think, and think. Eventually, watching this play out while food becomes out of their price range, their job replaces them with a TV screen of a Filipino lady, a small house hits an average of $500k in price, etc.

        Something’s wrong.

        Nepal got it, man. Enough people put their thinkin’ caps on and figured it out.

        I went to Kent State from 2014-2017. Even met Dean Kahler at a memorial event; he was hit in the spine by a National Guard bullet and paralyzed, confined to a wheelchair for life.

        America isn’t a bright place, intellectually. It’s gonna take cold, raw, painful time for enough people to figure out what is going on and the one way it can be solved.

        That block of time, which we’re in right now, is gonna Fucking. Suck.

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        “A woman” is woefully ignorant.

        That’s like saying Ghisleine Maxwell is just “a woman.” It matters who that woman is.

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        I highly doubt the fascist tRUMP and his like-minded cronies give a shit about people waving signs once every few months or so.
        Or any form of peaceful protests.
        They are probably laughing their voluminous man tits off about it.

        You’ll need to either get violent.
        Or shutdown certain systems, such as roads, on a countrywide scale for extended periods of time before they even think about giving a shit.

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          I will respectfully reject your suggestion to turn to violence and encourage others in this thread to also not be incited to do so.

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            Ha, there is no incitement because most americans are too complacent and mollycoddled to do anything. Maybe they’ll go for a walk once every few months and wave a sign, but that’s it.
            The orange buffoon knows this, which is why he gets away with all his shit.

            Anyways, what about the other option I mentioned?

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        You’re right, this is a half-measure. But I’ll be banned for speaking my mind, so we’ll stick with this.

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          Some of us can’t do anything because we’ve got people depending on us to provide. Believe me, if there was ever a time where I could be more active, it would be right fucking now. But unfortunately, that kind of protest is the most I can do at the moment.

          Put your money where your mouth is, go out and find those who are able to do more, and stop vilifying those who can’t afford to.

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            Right. Nobody in history who ever fought a righteous cause had a family or anything to lose. They were all just Disney characters whose victory was guaranteed because they were the good guys.

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        Yeah, you’re right. Waving signs and voting will totally fix things in the US. Just usual GOP misbehavior, those wily scamps.

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    For anyone out of the loop (from the AP / quoted in the article) :

    Why are people protesting in Nepal?

    The demonstrations—called the protest of Gen Z—began after the government blocked platforms, including Facebook, X and YouTube, saying the companies had failed to register and submit to government oversight.

    But they spiraled to reflect broader discontent about a lack of opportunities and corruption.

    In particular, many young people are angry that the children of political leaders—so-called Nepo Kids—seem to enjoy luxury lifestyles and numerous advantages while most youth struggle to find work.

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      Cops firing live rounds at kids, killing almost 20 and injuring about 100 might have something to do with them snapping as well…

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      Typical Newsweek, I’ve seen several people who have worked in Nepal say that corruption was spiraling out of control and people have been livid about it for months. The protests were already ramping up, which is why social media platforms were cut off, so videos about the corruption and investigations and means to plan protests were cut off. The “they didn’t register in time” excuse is for the government to save face internationally.

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        Several social media companies registered in time just fine and weren’t cut off so no, I think that’s just an excuse for the protestors.

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            how dumb can you be? You think people that are protesting over social media bans are actually cognizant of the actual effects of social media? or what the law actually entailed? Look at the protests in the US over TikTok. People just want social media, they don’t care the effects.

            The truth of the matter is (before all the killings) is that all the ‘social media companies’ had to do was fill out a fucking form and they didn’t do it. Then people pissed about missing their feeds went out and blamed it on the government, when it was completely the social media companies’ faults. Sure, it sounds like the government was doing a lot of other shit, but acting like the government didn’t give the companies time to register is just an absolute lie, there were several companies that managed just fine and they didn’t get blocked. If the goal was blocking social media completely then they wouldn’t have bothered with the registration, they just would have blocked.

            People need to stop giving social media companies the benefit of the doubt. Now the situation is so out of control that people get to blame the government blocking social media as a reason to not do any sort of regulation against these tech companies in other countries. Now when a law in X country pops up saying “we need to regulate FB, TikTok, etc” you’re going to get people referencing Nepal as a reason not to, even if FB/etc are literally causing genocides.

            To be clear: this is NOT a commentary on whatever other bs the government is doing or the protesters are protesting. This is ONLY a comment on the OP i replied to stating

            which is why social media platforms were cut off, so videos about the corruption and investigations and means to plan protests were cut off. The ‘they didn’t register in time’ excuse is for the government to save face internationally.

            which is just a bald faced lie since they didn’t cut off any social media that literally filled out a form.

            • Err, the law requiring social media to register also has very broad provisions for government mandated removal of content from these social media. So it’s not exactly unlikely that that would have been the next step after the registration deadline had passed.

              You are completely right that social media needs some form of regulation to avoid their nasty sides btw. But that’s not what this law was seemingly intent on doing.

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          ‘registered’ just means ‘Will censor information about government corruption for profit’

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    Russia and china do it better, they control social media behind the scenes, if you ban it its too obvious

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      That probably requires the kind of resources Nepal doesn’t have

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        It’s objectively a horrible thing to do to anyone, for any reason, and inhuman and condemnable.

        That all said, if you’re reading this and you’re married to someone advocating or supporting the execution of students and teens via assault rifles in the street, and a lot of people are angry about it, you should probably fucking leave.

        I don’t know anything about the ex-wife or her involvement with anything, but I know the Nepalese ruling class have been flaunting their wealth and the videos going around showing kids getting shot in the head and slumping over as blood pours out of their bodies and their friends crying and trying to pull their limp bodies out of the line of fire, have been circulating and it made MY blood boil and I’m on the other side of the world.

        I think maybe our “ruling class” in all nations need a wake-up call that they are our servants, not our masters.

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          It’s not ex-wife. It’s wife of ex-PM. As in the former first lady of Nepal, I guess, just as an analogy to US’s titles.

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          I think immolation is a good idea for the “ruling class” as the working class is struggling and dying daily.

          The occupy Wallstreet really changed things for us, right?

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        What isn’t too much, but also creates the necessary drastic changes?

        Billionaires won’t let you vote away their power, mind you.

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          I mean, if she’s committed crimes bad enough to warrant death I’m not gonna object to the killing itself, but still there would’ve been better execution methods than burning her alive. Hanging or firing squad, for example. Reveling in brutality is generally not something you want in a resistance movement.

          What isn’t too much, but also creates the necessary drastic changes?

          You know, kill or imprison those responsible for the people’s suffering, take or burn their stuff, etc. I’m in no way against violent revolution; I just believe even the worst people should get a relatively humane death when possible. Whether the billionaires and their lackies are killed or not really has no bearing on the end result; it’s the actual seizure of power (or threat thereof) that gets things done.

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            I don’t know, I have a damn hard time stopping to show this much consideration for those who have repeatedly proved they would never bother to do the same for me or mine.

            Got burned alive for being a sadistic corrupt fascist living in luxury while the people starved? Sucks to suck, maybe the next one will think twice.

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              What really gets me is we only seem to ever have this hand wringing when it’s a rich person that meets a gruesome end.

              Imagine if this person had instead been an ordinary person that did something horrible. Imagine there’s a child molester or a serial killer barricaded in their home, the police outside. They fire a flash bang inside, this causes the house to catch fire, and the monster ends up being burned alive. Would people be here lamenting this fact? No, they wouldnt. It is only when the rich and powerful meet gruesome ends that we start moralizing about vigilante justice. When a monster that isn’t rich meets a gruesome end through extrajudicial violence, no one bats an eye.

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                Oh I’m not at all upset about her meeting a gruesome end; it’s the part about deliberately inflicting that gruesome end that I’m complaining about. In your example it’d be an unintended consequence of something desirable (catching the serial killer), which is a whole different story. If the story was instead “corrupt PMs die inside parliament after protesters burn it down” it’d have been a lot more acceptable.

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              Nope. It’s impossible to intimidate the elites into submission through violence against them; you have to seriously threaten their power. The lesson the Nepalese ruling class will learn from this is to never fall under the protesters (though at this point “revolutionaries” is probably a more appropriate term), not to be better people. There is literally nothing productive about this.

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        Change comes from great struggle, usually quite bloody. The powers that be don’t want the change and try to stop it at every turn, hence why force is necessary. The people are the power, the Lord’s lead at the whim of the populace. Unhappy people makes for a bad time for those at the top. A tale as old as time itself.

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        What’s the over-under on this horrible woman doing the same to street urchins for fun?

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      Maybe. The next leader hopefully understands that people are watching and waiting with torches apparently. Might make them think twice about engaging in corruption.

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        If those people are able to organize peaceful elections now and the military will not get involved it will be truly amazing achievement and an inspiration for the rest of the world.

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          Neither their own military, nor any other external power. Considering their position, it’s likely that China will try to influence the results

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        Historically speaking, that will just make the next leader give many powers to the military in order to “bring peace” so whatever happened to the last one doesn’t happen to him.