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- politics@lemmy.world
When asked directly about the 22nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits any U.S. citizen from serving more than two terms as president, [Steve] Bannon pointed to how there are “many different alternatives” for Trump to stay in office, but did not provide specifics.
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Tell me you don’t understand how election/inauguration works without actually explicitly saying it…
They understand, they just don’t care.
So the constitution doesn’t actually prohibit anyone from serving more than 2 terms as president, it prohibits someone being elected to the office of president more than twice (or once if they assumed office for more than 2 years of someone else’s term.
In 2029 Trump could be elected as speaker of the house and then Vance and Dr. Evil resign as POTUS and VP and bam, Trump round 3.
Trump could also be directly elected to the Vice Presidency, though the legal ground there is shakier given the 12th amendment.
Ultimately, SCOTUS would need to weigh in because there is enough ambiguity in the constitution to allow for just the scenarios above.
Good thing SCOTUS is chock full of no-nonsense nonpartisan jurists of the highest integrity.
though the legal ground there is shakier
Like everything he’s done every single day since inauguration
The 12th Amendment provides that “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President.” As such, anyone barred by the 22nd Amendment from being elected president is also ineligible to serve as vice president, and so a twice-elected president cannot return to power through vice-presidential succession.
If a person is constitutionally “ineligible to the office of President,” they are also skipped over in the presidential line of succession under the Presidential Succession Act (3 U.S.C. §19), which prohibits anyone ineligible to serve as president from assuming the office.
The ghouls in power currently don’t understand or don’t care, and by the time this is tested, it will likely be rubber stamped by the supreme court. But, there’s still value in understanding ahead of time that no, that is not a constitutionally valid approach.
the Presidential Succession Act (3 U.S.C. §19), which prohibits anyone ineligible to serve as president from assuming the office
“No it doesn’t. Your statement is now literally incorrect.”
- USA SC
Not quite… the constitutional requirements to be president are simple: Natural born citizen, 35+ years old, and US residency for at least 14 years.
It is an open legal question whether and how the 12th and 22nd interact to determine eligibility. The intent seems clear, but the language of the 22nd very plainly concerns only election to the office, not assumption of it.
Calling it “an open legal question” implies meaningful doubt, but in reality, the text, intent, succession laws, and scholarly consensus have already answered this decisively. The only way this alternate interpretation prevails is a corrupt supreme court. Oh…wait. 🤣
Addled mushbrain probably won’t be able to form actual sentences by that time. Not that he could do that before.
Education is important. And not doing drugs. And not being a worthless narcissist nepo who has never worked an honest day in his pathetic life. And not being stupid. And not being a thief, a pedo, and a rapist…
Not that any of that matters to his fan base
Well if Biden could simultaneously be president and corpse-in-chief, no reason why trump couldn’t do it too. Notwithstanding he has no concept of term limits & post-mortem limitations.
He went on to call Trump a “vehicle of divine providence.”
How to make fascism even worse: mix it with a religious cult
“Gott mit uns”
He 100% doesn’t plan on leaving when his term is up. This stupid ass Epstein Ballroom that he’s having built (amongst other things) is proof of that.
Yes, of course he is (if he’s still alive). His term doesn’t end until Jan. 20th, 2029.
They have a plan?
Holy shit you guys, these ghouls aren’t lizard people! They are god damned cylons!
The Plan: Weekend at Bernie’s
Well then let’s bring back BIll……
Knowing him it’s just concepts of a plan 😂
A nation overflowing with firearms and angry people disagree.
So? If the Founders COULD have Predicted Trump they WOULDNT have Written that Amendment!
-School Shooting Supporters!
The 22nd amendment ratified in 1951?
School shooting advocates aren’t smart. That’s why they are ok with school shootings. They don’t go there anyway so it doesn’t personally affect them.
To the watchful observer it is very clear that there is a plan. Deploying troops to urban areas, buying a voting machine manufacturer, installing Project25-vetted admin workers everywhere, … the list goes on. It does not take a genius to see the intent.
Not to mention expanding the bunker at the WH. Dude knows he’s absolutely going to try to stay President no matter what happens. Expect full Franco.
Can we lock the bunker from the outside and throw away the key?
I’m sure you can buy cement at a building supply store. Bleach and ammonia should be available somewhere too, just find the bunker’s vent and get cleaning. They’ll really appreciate the nice clean air smell.
Watchfull?! Its blatantly obvious for even the blindest bat that they are not going to give up their front man who keeps the assholes behind the throne in power
I think we need G.I. Robot in the whitehouse
I don’t know if this happens, or if it doesn’t. There should be zero tolerance for even joking about this. The only thing that I will assert is this: If this happens, and some combination of: another branch of government, state governments, the public, law enforcement, the military, and the media, don’t immediately halt everything and throw his as in out, then the United States is over. I don’t mean ‘over’as a descriptor for decline. I mean it’s just immediately done. There is no nation, there are no laws and we have no constitution. The entire project ceases to exist immediately.
Psst… it’s already over, because that’s what Billionaires want.
Lol, the vast majority of Americans will never tolerate Kings, and we mean it. We’re willing to die to ensure it never happens here. I know you don’t believe me, so I’ll just say sit back and watch us torch our billionaire class and eat their flesh. You’d be surprised what Americans are willing to do to ensure No Kings. Its not just a protest slogan. We fucking mean it.
I’m in Australia. We have a king and it’s no big deal. Thailand has a king and it’s no big deal.
What you have on your hands is an imminient dictator. You don’t want that.
No, I don’t want either. Call it a king, call it a dictator. They can both eat shit. Fuck your king, fuck Thailand’s king. Their continued existence is an affront to every human being that breathes.
True, we won’t tolerate a king. OTOH, more than a third of us are more than happy to tolerate a dictator.
You already have a king, so there is that! But yeah I’d love to see what you describe. But dude, he tore down the WH and it’s all crickets.
To be fair, I really don’t care about the White House in general
I despise its current tenant, and it sucks that the add-on is gonna be a tacky gilded ballroom, but I’d be fine if the building got blown up by a space laser
Fuck, it was burned down already. Twice.
I really hope it’s true.
My gut doesn’t believe it is.
My heart still hopes.
we’re willing to die
I’ll just sit back
Willing to die in a seated position doesn’t cut it goofy
“I’ll just say sit back”
you misread
Sure pal, you’re different from everyone else in the world, you are immune to fall under an authoritarian regime, sure. LoL
That good old American exceptionalism.
I mean I’m rooting for them, absolutely. Based on the current track record though, it isn’t looking good.
I agree with the sentiment but I don’t think it is true the two term limit is a relatively new thing, Franklin Roosevelt had four separate elections and served until he died that was only in 1945, we have changed the constitution since then but I don’t think it is fundamentally different from the majority of America, granted this was a war time president but I still don’t think it is fundamentally different.
