'Microslop' is heading for Edge – major browser redesign is inspired by Copilot and it makes me worry about the future of Windows 11
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From Micro$oft to Microslop? Copilot-inspired revamp for Edge stokes further AI rebellion
  • eletes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    101·
    9 days ago

    Get ready for:

    clicks hyperlink

    Entire page is scraped and sent to copilot LLM to be processed. This causes a 1.5 second delay

    Then after you get passed the cookies popup and promo popup, the whole page shifts and gets injected with copilot summarizations right as you were about to click on something else.

    Work forces me to use edge, this’ll be fun

    • sexy_peach@feddit.orgEnglish
      1·
      8 days ago

      Then after you get passed the cookies popup and promo popup, the whole page shifts and gets injected with copilot summarizations right as you were about to click on something else.

      you forgot ads. It’s going to get injected with ads

    • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      3·
      8 days ago

      Windows -> MS copilotOS Subscription-> MS copilot 365 Chatbot -> MS copilot chat Office apps mished to one -> MS copilot work 365 Vs code -> Copilot Code Visual Studio -> copilot studio Azure -> MS Copilot Azure cloud EntraID -> copilot Access ActiveDirectory -> copilot Business manager Visio -> copilot processes Github -> copilot repo management (CoRaMa) Intune -> ms copilot manage Planner -> copilot task management plan Teams -> copilot communication manager Linkedin -> ms management ads copilot

      🧐 wonky enough?

    • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      9 days ago

      Actually Edge prior to this was a fine browser. Like a lightweight chrome. It was actually just good enough to not really make you want to install a new browser unless it was your daily driver personal PC.

      • garretble@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        9 days ago

        Yeah, same.

        It’s not terrible, but it feels like it’s slowly becoming worse as they add new garbage. And especially if they start forcing a bunch of AI shit I’m out.

        But I think a lot of people brush it off outright without really using it. Or, because it’s Lemmy, anything that’s not linux = bad.

    • Wolf@lemmy.todayEnglish
      6·
      8 days ago

      I haven’t used a web browser made by Microsoft in 20 years, since I leaned how to create a web page. I saw how Microsoft was trying to take over the web by leveraging their monopoly to enforce their non-standards compliant crap.

      I even took an A- over an A+ in that class because I refused to code a version of the page that would work better under IE. I just put a disclaimer at the bottom of the page saying that it was 100% standards compliant and if anyone experienced an issue viewing the page they should consider a upgrading their web browser.

      I understand the Edge is supposed to be better than IE and more standards compliant or whatever, but given their history coupled with their anti-privacy practices, it makes any browser made by Microsoft a non starter for me.

    • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
      3·
      10 days ago

      Microsoft 365 Copilot Edge Pro Express Home Edition with Teams for Friends and Family 2027.

      People will still use it once to download another browser.

          • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            10 days ago

            I have a USB-bootable thumbdrive with Ubuntu 24 on it. Two home systems down, two to go.

            My chief concern is that this wave of enshitifiation will eventually make it to Microsoft’s security support. Historically, at least recently, the weekly updates and response to critical vulnerabilities and virus scanning have been pretty good. But now that they’re attacking their own flagship products - Office and Windows itself - I think it’s only a matter of time before they fumble Windows security in a big way.

            I’ll also predict that Non-pro Windows will eventually be “free” (as in beer), but will be useless without a live internet connection and cloud services. So now really is the time to switch. IMO, all the money points in that direction.

          • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
            1·
            10 days ago

            Ubuntu doesn’t respect the spirit of free open-source software. They keep jamming stuff into their distro to increase their control. There are plenty of alternatives. (E.g. Debian, OpenSUSE, Fedora or Mint for general-purpose distros.)

          • AMoistGrandpa@lemmy.caEnglish
            0·
            10 days ago

            Out of curiosity, why does everyone always go for Ubuntu in posts like this? I’ve always hated that distro; all my machines run Fedora instead. IMO Fedora with KDE is way better than Ubuntu with Gnome in terms of usability for people switching over from Windows, but maybe I’m just biased since I’m already super familiar with Linux

            • deleted@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              10 days ago

              I run Zorin OS 18 on my desktop. I just commented Ubuntu since more people would understand the comments.

              Also, for Surface tablets, I believe Ubuntu is the best option for touchscreen support.

            • cabbage@piefed.socialEnglish
              1·
              10 days ago

              It took me way more than a decade of using Ubuntu before I got to a point of preferring Fedora, in spite of frequent distro hopping in periods when I was bored.

              I think Fedora has gotten better in the last few years, but for me it also feels a bit more cold and unwelcoming maybe? Dunno, but I was always happy with Ubuntu until some really obscure dependencies got into conflict and I had to change things up. Canonical might not be the absolute best, but neither are Red Hat.

      • ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        0·
        10 days ago

        It’ll just be called Microsoft Copilot.

        None of you are in an abusive relationship with the cruel mistress that is Windows and her accursed family and it shows.

        Personally I’m excited for when they rerelease regedit as Windows Copilot, MFS as (Co)Pilot, and Purble Place as Copilot Kids Demo.

  • yesman@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    10 days ago

    M$ has done more to convince people that AI is bullshit than anyone else and I just want to thank them for their hard work.

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3·
    10 days ago

    Step One: Install literally any other browser
    Step Two: Make new browser the default
    Step Three: Forget that Edge exists

    Peace.

    • Hawke@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      10 days ago
      1. Repeat step two forever when Microsoft decides there was a problem that can be solved by resetting your default browser.
        • Hawke@lemmy.worldEnglish
          0·
          10 days ago

          Absolutely.

          Just need a way to admin Active Directory from Linux and I’m set…

          • UnspecificGravity@piefed.socialEnglish
            1·
            10 days ago

            This makes me think about the hospital I used to work at that had an old 386 parked in the shop running the HVAC system. They had it completely off the network and had to keep it because it was the only way to run the proprietary HVAC control software and would cost an absurd amount of money to upgrade to be compatible with modern systems and it still did its job.

            I imagine a future where there is a computer like that running windows 11 in some basement and new employees are trained “don’t even think about touching this thing, its doing its job.”

            • Hawke@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              10 days ago

              Don’t have to worry about that, win11 isn’t reliable enough for that.

              We had a similar situation for a voicemail system though.

            • IsoKiero@sopuli.xyzEnglish
              1·
              10 days ago

              We still have handful of those around at work. 2000, XP and maybe some embedded variant of 98 too still somewhere. They are controlling some non-critical but still useful industrial stuff with stupidly large price tag to replace.

              Specially XP is still going to be around for quite a while in industrial settings where the production line is controlled via single computer and replacing it would mean replacing the whole line with price tag potentially in millions. And those aren’t even that old machines, their planning and manufacturing just takes “a while” due to certifications and everything.

        • Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zipEnglish
          0·
          10 days ago

          I wish I wasn’t such a coward about this.

          Three questions for you:

          • Will I be able to run Blender without issue?
          • Can I run Steam/Steam games easily?
          • Will Discord work?
          • Jo Miran@lemmy.mlEnglish
            1·
            10 days ago

            Will I be able to run Blender without issue?

            The free and open source 3D creation software developed on Linux and primarily run on Linux? Yeah, you should be fine.

            Can I run Steam/Steam games easily?

            Absolutely. Games that have a problem running on linux are mostly contained to this with anti-cheat. You can verify your game’s compatibility with protondb.com.

            Will Discord work?

            Of course. Discord has a linux native client.

            • njordomir@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              10 days ago

              To top that off, you can dip your toes in by running a live image off a USB thumb drive to check if your hardware is recognized and supported out of the box. I have used Linux for 10-15 years, but never for gaming. This year I made the final jump, the one thing I had kept windows for. I don’t play competitive games with anticheat, and everything is running great. I anticipated more bullshit, because 15 years ago, Linux was not so polished. At this point I’m fine with running Linux on elderly folks PCs. It’s finally “good enough” to do just about everything and legitimately excels at most things.

          • Siegfried@lemmy.worldEnglish
            0·
            10 days ago

            Games run easily, but there are some that won’t run at all. Mainly those that use anti cheat and kernel level shit. Discord does work, but i remember that maintaining it updated was a pain in the ass. In any case, I didnt use it that much so…

  • melfie@lemy.lolEnglish
    3·
    9 days ago

    If it gets too bad, I suppose everyone still forced to use SlopilotOS for whatever reason will have to use Powershell to download Firefox. That is, until the SlopilotShell rebrand comes along.

    • matlag@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      9 days ago

      Until they introduce Copilot in Powershell so that when you try do D/L another browser, it will chime in and explain you that you should first give a serious try to EdgePilot because it’s so much better and you won’t be disappointed! Here: I D/L its premium version instead of FF as you were trying to do, and I give you one month for free! \o/.

  • headset@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    9 days ago

    “Seriuosly unpopular” and the base for that claim is a reddit post with 300 upvotes. Don’t get me wrong, fuck microslop and edge, but this title could not be more sensationalistic.

  • atmorous@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    9 days ago

    Ironfox, Cromite, Librewolf, Ungoogled Chromium, Orion, so many much better options nowadays.

    • Ace T'Ken@lemmy.caEnglish
      0·
      10 days ago

      Hey now, you’ve got to use something to download Firefox on a brand new windows install.

          • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            9 days ago

            I’m running distro installs on perfectly set-up rigs and customizing the bios just to feel normal. I installed Wine and Proton on my Pebble just because I could. The other day I blew a guy so that I could talk to him about start-up efficiency and convince him to take an Arch boot drive from me that he promised to install on his 2008 dell mini PC. I told him it would run Skyrim!

            Learn from my mistakes. Linux… not even once.