MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United
Muricans, you do realize this is the end for you, right?
Nobody in the rest of the world will ever trust the USA. If you are still naive enough to think you can vote him out later, and by some miracle that does happen, the rest of the world will always distrust you
They had to lose both of those wars and completely rebuild their political institutions for that trust to be rebuilt lol. Nothing like that will happen here. Nobody is coming to save you.
Yeah I mean setting aside the facts that Germany was literally split in half for 40 years after WW2 and governed by outside forces for a time, was basically forced to enact reforms to prevent the elevation of fascists to their government again, and had a thorough set of war crime trials (a process created from the ground up specifically for Germany), they basically just whistled dixie and the world started trusting them again when they elected a different chancellor. /s
Then again, America is pretty much confirmed to be a nation of mostly idiots or lazy losers, so of course we would forgive our enemies. After all, we can make money from them!
Germany is just some backwater Roman conquest. I don’t know what the fuck you’re on about. Greece gave birth to western civilization, not some wooded hill full of bear worshippers.
It’s been decades of US-centric media, political commentary, and general cultural dominance/presence in our lives in most English speaking countries whether we liked it or not.
I kind of read this as the elastic band snapping back, we’ve had to hear so much about the US for long, this is almost cathartic. And it’s not people on the fediverse who are responsible, unfortunately you’re probably the most empathetic group in a social media platform at all. You just happen to be here. With a lot of cynical, anti establishment nerds who have a space to vent.
His cultists believe that the USAs position in the world is unassailable, that they can simultaneously isolate and withdraw while influencing with tariffs and might. This is why it is beyond imperative that every country on this planet divest themselves of American influence. Cut trade, find new partners, let them isolate themselves to death. Fuck em.
As an American, yes. There’s no way to take us on militarily, so it must be economical. The rest of the world’s governments have been reluctant thus far to distance themselves from ours like they should, though. Private citizens of the world, avoid spending money on anything American as much as possible!
As an American, yes. There’s no way to take us on militarily
This is what you get wrong all the time… sure we cannot fight you head on and win… but you cannot colonize the world either. You could destroy the world and if so, congrats becoming kings of the smoldering leftover Earth
The USA thinks they can just conquer the world and plunder but history showed you could not do that in Vietnam, in Afghanistan, in Iran or Iraq… and this was when nobody at home was suffering much and nobody there cared about the brown people being slaughtered on the other side of the world
Oh, you can fight us off from taking over other places; I was referring to other places trying to defeat us on our home turf. The US would simply nuke the world so everybody loses if that were attempted.
Yep it’s the nightmare we’re in now. We may kick them out every other 4 years but the American public is stupid and easily forgets. The rights brainwashing in this country is beyond effective and they are winning. It’s leaving me extremely angry and depressed.
The time to squash this was during his first run and by landslide numbers and make it so these Nazi fucks never were emboldened.
.now it’s going to take at least twenty years straight of defeating them to make them even remotely reconsider their stances.
As well it should be. If our government is so easily able to avoid and ignore all laws, no one should trust it. And if we can’t draw sufficient support from our local ranks to make it stop, we should not be trusted either.
And what are you doing to suppress the Far Right Movement that is rising in your country? I don’t even have to ask which country, because the ENTIRE world is under pressure, if they haven’t already been captured.
America is just the first target, the Canary in the Coalmine. Once we’re out of the way, conquering the rest of the world will be much easier, and that includes wherever you are.
So instead of gleefully reveling in the schadenfreud of America’s demise, you should be sweating about what comes next in your nation, and trying to support and encourage America to increase its resistance before YOUR country becomes the next front line.
Nobody is gleefully revelling in schadenfreude of the far right rise in the US. Quite the contrary ffs
Why do you think fascism is on the rise everywhere? Because most of the western world follows the US (and also because the US pushes for that )
We’re trying our best to hold the line in our countries but we can’t invade the US to kidnap your dictator like the US can. It has to be the US people to topple him
Nobody is gleefully revelling in schadenfreude of the far right rise in the US. Quite the contrary ffs
Simply not true. I’ve been answering MANY posts celebrating the fall of America.
Why do you think fascism is on the rise everywhere? Because most of the western world follows the US (and also because the US pushes for that)
Historically, America has done more to stop fascism than any other nation on this planet. That is a simple historical fact. Ironically, the only other country who could possibly make that claim is Russia, after their devastating losses to the Nazis in WWII, before turning the tide, and ruthlessly destroying them in return.
MAGA’s brand of fascism is a relatively recent occurrence, and has been proven beyond any doubt that it was instigated and stirred by Russia, who has been supporting fascist and white supremacist movements across Europe and America, the same way the Saudis and Iranians support Muslim extremist operations. Brexit, as well as the rise of fascist parties and candidates in France, Germany, and other countries can all be traced back to Russian support.
So stop blaming the biggest victim, and start calling out the real source of all this nonsense - PUTIN.
LMAO, US is literally the original fascist country that the nazis tried to emulate with lebensraum. It is the most evil entity on this planet to date.
putin’s russia supporting some marginalized neonazis to destabilize europe is nothing compared to the dozens of literal fascist coups staged and puppeteered by the US starting way before putin was even born.
Now the citizens of the empire are reaping what the oligarchs of old have sowed with quiet support from the liberals. Fascism is simply coming back home.
And I know it seems like a good strategy to just blame all your country’s issues on putin or russia. It might even be “tactically correct” and get democrats even more landslide victories in 26 and 28 (if there even are elections) - xenophobia and racism are widespread among americans, and it’s probably going to work to a degree.
But think about what happens next. Almost all democrats are bought by more or less the same billionaires who pay the republicans. They will not improve the lives of average americans in any meaningful way, because that would eat into the oligarch’s profits. Then the american populace, in debt, lonely, obese, struggling to afford rent, and stuck in constant traffic, will unleash their anger once more and vote for the opposition (i.e. republicans) again.
Nothing will change until you recognize the root of your issue: specifically, that a few dozens of rich men† have had a dictatorship over your country since its founding. The only way to rectify this is to end the exponential accumulation of wealth, a.k.a. capitalism.
† the gender doesn’t actually matter much, but it makes the whole thing a bit more likely to end in a total world war
I’ve heard it said that historically when a country or empire starts collapsing, for some reason, the people and government paradoxically behave in ways that speed up that collapse.
not sure what you call “last time” but in my last time, the USA became a distrusted entity with Bush and that never recovered. Now, it’s an active enemy (so it does keep getting worse)
Serious question, what sort of constitutional amendment would you think would be enough to earn the world’s trust back? Is there anything at all? I know most of us would be very much in support of a maximum age to hold presidential office, as well as a lot more transparency being required of that office.
Serious question, what sort of constitutional amendment would you think would be enough to earn the world’s trust back?
None. The issue is not that you don’t have the right legal framework (although we can discuss a lot in that area). The problem is that you made it clear that whatever laws are in the books, they are for the poor people, if you are rich you are above the law and finally here we are. Trump has broken laws, ethical guidelines, policies, etc and literally nothing has happened.
Without changing a single law, if you had actually prosecuted Bush for war crimes (and actually punish him and his regime) we would not be here.
Some people alluded that Germany is trusted after the Nazis, but they seem to fail to see that they literally had to hang Nazis, ban all things Nazi and eat crow for a long while before things started turning.
I can’t answer for the rest of the world, will trust the US again when it abolishes capitalism and makes sure that wealth/power can not be hoarded by private individuals or unaccountable organizations. This is the only solution. Everything you propose is just a bandaid on a gaping wound that is the dictatorship of capital; it doesn’t really matter how effective or competent the governance structure is, as long as it is subservient to a few billionaire oligarchs.
The joys of “living” in a failed state. We are unlikely to ever recover and will become something like feudal Japan. Zero legal connection to the outside world. Control by various warlords. Suppression of dissonance.
I’m not sure that we will maintain all of the military dominance much longer. Although we may remove them and deploy them closer to home (Venezuela, Mexico, Cuba)
What decent people could have done was be an engaged citizen and vote in the past instead of so many of us sitting it out and letting the fascists take over.
IS IT??? OH MY GOD THE END I DIDN’T KNOW THANK YOU!!!1!!1!!!11!!
We know. Like a mosquito buzzing around our ears every five seconds, we know. Why not post that somewhere it might be actually news instead of circlejerking here?
Other countries have intel and counter intel organizations, they best be looking at our military and government now because this is the beginning of WWIII.
Muricans, you do realize this is the end for you, right?
Nobody in the rest of the world will ever trust the USA. If you are still naive enough to think you can vote him out later, and by some miracle that does happen, the rest of the world will always distrust you
Yeah, about 80 people have said that to us online just today. We know. We don’t like this either.
I’m so glad there’s so many geniuses on the Internet to tell me how bad my country is everyday. Really makes things a lot better.
What’s amazing is they’re obtuse enough that they don’t understand Germany started two world wars and we trust them just fine.
Germany was purged of Nazis by a more powerful outside force. That’s not happening this time.
The war ended, the Nazis persisted and often times the skilled ones were taken as was reparations by the allies.
It logically has to happen or they win the world.
Ok, fine in that scenario a few decades from now others will trust us…
Probably not in my lifetime but yes.
Ackshully was Austria ☝️🤓
They had to lose both of those wars and completely rebuild their political institutions for that trust to be rebuilt lol. Nothing like that will happen here. Nobody is coming to save you.
Yeah I mean setting aside the facts that Germany was literally split in half for 40 years after WW2 and governed by outside forces for a time, was basically forced to enact reforms to prevent the elevation of fascists to their government again, and had a thorough set of war crime trials (a process created from the ground up specifically for Germany), they basically just whistled dixie and the world started trusting them again when they elected a different chancellor. /s
Ya huh, .ca might as well be .ru as this point. All you all do is call for armed uprising and vocalize your doom spiraling and saber rattling.
Technically they only started one world war and even that is debatable.
After the first one they got shafted so hard by everyone that they still felt the pain years later. Which kinda lead into Hitler’s coming into power.
And Japan. And Vietnam. And fucking CHINA!
Then again, America is pretty much confirmed to be a nation of mostly idiots or lazy losers, so of course we would forgive our enemies. After all, we can make money from them!
That’s because Germany is an European country, the continent that gave birth to western civilization.
The US is just a former colony. Nobody cares about rebels
Germany is just some backwater Roman conquest. I don’t know what the fuck you’re on about. Greece gave birth to western civilization, not some wooded hill full of bear worshippers.
See how dumb you sound?
The difference is that they are a former colony of the glorious Roman empire, not some islanders
Most of the world is a former colony in one way or another, try again.
It’s been decades of US-centric media, political commentary, and general cultural dominance/presence in our lives in most English speaking countries whether we liked it or not.
I kind of read this as the elastic band snapping back, we’ve had to hear so much about the US for long, this is almost cathartic. And it’s not people on the fediverse who are responsible, unfortunately you’re probably the most empathetic group in a social media platform at all. You just happen to be here. With a lot of cynical, anti establishment nerds who have a space to vent.
Then, please organize and fight… don’t give up before attempting to leave the couch!
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His cultists believe that the USAs position in the world is unassailable, that they can simultaneously isolate and withdraw while influencing with tariffs and might. This is why it is beyond imperative that every country on this planet divest themselves of American influence. Cut trade, find new partners, let them isolate themselves to death. Fuck em.
As an American, yes. There’s no way to take us on militarily, so it must be economical. The rest of the world’s governments have been reluctant thus far to distance themselves from ours like they should, though. Private citizens of the world, avoid spending money on anything American as much as possible!
This is what you get wrong all the time… sure we cannot fight you head on and win… but you cannot colonize the world either. You could destroy the world and if so, congrats becoming kings of the smoldering leftover Earth
The USA thinks they can just conquer the world and plunder but history showed you could not do that in Vietnam, in Afghanistan, in Iran or Iraq… and this was when nobody at home was suffering much and nobody there cared about the brown people being slaughtered on the other side of the world
Oh, you can fight us off from taking over other places; I was referring to other places trying to defeat us on our home turf. The US would simply nuke the world so everybody loses if that were attempted.
nobody wants that and the internal infighting will take care of most of it anyway
Trust is like a sheet of paper. Once you crumple it up, you can flatten it again but it will never be the same.
It’s overdue. We’ve been too big for out britches for a long time now. The downfall didn’t have to include this much suffering, though.
I don’t think many empires just gradually lose power without a bunch of suffering involved.
Yeah, but the ones on top don’t have to actively try to cause as mush suffering as possible.
Yep it’s the nightmare we’re in now. We may kick them out every other 4 years but the American public is stupid and easily forgets. The rights brainwashing in this country is beyond effective and they are winning. It’s leaving me extremely angry and depressed.
The time to squash this was during his first run and by landslide numbers and make it so these Nazi fucks never were emboldened.
.now it’s going to take at least twenty years straight of defeating them to make them even remotely reconsider their stances.
As well it should be. If our government is so easily able to avoid and ignore all laws, no one should trust it. And if we can’t draw sufficient support from our local ranks to make it stop, we should not be trusted either.
They should have never trusted us in the first place.
And what are you doing to suppress the Far Right Movement that is rising in your country? I don’t even have to ask which country, because the ENTIRE world is under pressure, if they haven’t already been captured.
America is just the first target, the Canary in the Coalmine. Once we’re out of the way, conquering the rest of the world will be much easier, and that includes wherever you are.
So instead of gleefully reveling in the schadenfreud of America’s demise, you should be sweating about what comes next in your nation, and trying to support and encourage America to increase its resistance before YOUR country becomes the next front line.
Nobody is gleefully revelling in schadenfreude of the far right rise in the US. Quite the contrary ffs
Why do you think fascism is on the rise everywhere? Because most of the western world follows the US (and also because the US pushes for that )
We’re trying our best to hold the line in our countries but we can’t invade the US to kidnap your dictator like the US can. It has to be the US people to topple him
Simply not true. I’ve been answering MANY posts celebrating the fall of America.
Historically, America has done more to stop fascism than any other nation on this planet. That is a simple historical fact. Ironically, the only other country who could possibly make that claim is Russia, after their devastating losses to the Nazis in WWII, before turning the tide, and ruthlessly destroying them in return.
MAGA’s brand of fascism is a relatively recent occurrence, and has been proven beyond any doubt that it was instigated and stirred by Russia, who has been supporting fascist and white supremacist movements across Europe and America, the same way the Saudis and Iranians support Muslim extremist operations. Brexit, as well as the rise of fascist parties and candidates in France, Germany, and other countries can all be traced back to Russian support.
So stop blaming the biggest victim, and start calling out the real source of all this nonsense - PUTIN.
LMAO, US is literally the original fascist country that the nazis tried to emulate with lebensraum. It is the most evil entity on this planet to date.
putin’s russia supporting some marginalized neonazis to destabilize europe is nothing compared to the dozens of literal fascist coups staged and puppeteered by the US starting way before putin was even born.
Now the citizens of the empire are reaping what the oligarchs of old have sowed with quiet support from the liberals. Fascism is simply coming back home.
And I know it seems like a good strategy to just blame all your country’s issues on putin or russia. It might even be “tactically correct” and get democrats even more landslide victories in 26 and 28 (if there even are elections) - xenophobia and racism are widespread among americans, and it’s probably going to work to a degree.
But think about what happens next. Almost all democrats are bought by more or less the same billionaires who pay the republicans. They will not improve the lives of average americans in any meaningful way, because that would eat into the oligarch’s profits. Then the american populace, in debt, lonely, obese, struggling to afford rent, and stuck in constant traffic, will unleash their anger once more and vote for the opposition (i.e. republicans) again.
Nothing will change until you recognize the root of your issue: specifically, that a few dozens of rich men† have had a dictatorship over your country since its founding. The only way to rectify this is to end the exponential accumulation of wealth, a.k.a. capitalism.
† the gender doesn’t actually matter much, but it makes the whole thing a bit more likely to end in a total world war
wow you guys truly have a victim’s complex
The end for this country really got accelerated about 10 years ago, it’s all momentum wince then.
The US has a LOT of inertia, but dammit if it’s corruption isn’t doing everything it can to find new brakes.
I’ve heard it said that historically when a country or empire starts collapsing, for some reason, the people and government paradoxically behave in ways that speed up that collapse.
To be fair that’s what you all said last time
not sure what you call “last time” but in my last time, the USA became a distrusted entity with Bush and that never recovered. Now, it’s an active enemy (so it does keep getting worse)
Serious question, what sort of constitutional amendment would you think would be enough to earn the world’s trust back? Is there anything at all? I know most of us would be very much in support of a maximum age to hold presidential office, as well as a lot more transparency being required of that office.
None. The issue is not that you don’t have the right legal framework (although we can discuss a lot in that area). The problem is that you made it clear that whatever laws are in the books, they are for the poor people, if you are rich you are above the law and finally here we are. Trump has broken laws, ethical guidelines, policies, etc and literally nothing has happened.
Without changing a single law, if you had actually prosecuted Bush for war crimes (and actually punish him and his regime) we would not be here.
Some people alluded that Germany is trusted after the Nazis, but they seem to fail to see that they literally had to hang Nazis, ban all things Nazi and eat crow for a long while before things started turning.
Not nothing. He was re-elected President by the American people, and even won the popular vote this time.
I can’t answer for the rest of the world, will trust the US again when it abolishes capitalism and makes sure that wealth/power can not be hoarded by private individuals or unaccountable organizations. This is the only solution. Everything you propose is just a bandaid on a gaping wound that is the dictatorship of capital; it doesn’t really matter how effective or competent the governance structure is, as long as it is subservient to a few billionaire oligarchs.
The joys of “living” in a failed state. We are unlikely to ever recover and will become something like feudal Japan. Zero legal connection to the outside world. Control by various warlords. Suppression of dissonance.
Big difference, though, feudal Japan didn’t have the most powerful military in the world, nor military bases all over the world.
I’m not sure that we will maintain all of the military dominance much longer. Although we may remove them and deploy them closer to home (Venezuela, Mexico, Cuba)
Depends on how much we rely on other countries for our military tech and how willing they are to cut us off, I suppose.
Oh well, nothing we could have done anyway. Protests, strikes, violence, none of it changes the trajectory of this country into the shitter.
What decent people could have done was be an engaged citizen and vote in the past instead of so many of us sitting it out and letting the fascists take over.
IS IT??? OH MY GOD THE END I DIDN’T KNOW THANK YOU!!!1!!1!!!11!!
We know. Like a mosquito buzzing around our ears every five seconds, we know. Why not post that somewhere it might be actually news instead of circlejerking here?
Other countries have intel and counter intel organizations, they best be looking at our military and government now because this is the beginning of WWIII.