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    TlDr: The US does not want democracy, electoral assistance, rule of law, peacebuilding, investigation of violence against children, protection of tropical forests, reduction of emissions from deforestation and forest degradation. Officially, the US is a fascist state. FYI, Hitler also withdraw from all international organizations.

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      “the US” doesn’t want these things. Trump had the lowest 4 year average approval rating on any US president ever his first 4 year term, and he’s currently beating that by a lot this term so far. The people running the US are corrupt, wealthy, grifters. The elections are rigged by being gerrymandered all to hell (or worse) and protests are useless.

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    Knowing the treaty processes behind these organizations, this is a generational shift that cannot easily be undone.

    One day the USA will just announce without preamble that they’ll leave NATO or the United Nations Organization.

    Every day I’m surprised I’m still surprised by these developments.

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      8 天前

      Reminded me of a quote from The Expanse:

      My life has become a single, ongoing revelation that I haven’t been cynical enough.

      • Chrisjen Avasarala, Babylons ashes by James S.A. Corey.
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      Who needs soft power when you can just kidnap world leaders and declare yourself the caretaker regime?

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      Living through the “decades in weeks” part of history isn’t as fun as I thought it’d be but, but I guess I always thought we’d move forward through decades in weeks instead of backwards.

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      It is fascinating, how surprised we still are about those facts, at the same time there are still people who believe there will be midterms or presidential elections.

      Wakey wakey, USA. Why don’t you just kill the president? JD Vance is unable to lead, and no one will follow his orders. Best case scenario for you. Worst case scenario: You will be poorer and more desperate than people in Syria

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          It is clear that he is not, however he pulls the right strings and is able to lead them. Without Trump, the puppets will lose focus and will start to fight each other.

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            Fair enough, I am not sure this administration would be stopped by losing Trump, but it couldn’t hurt. He is definitely shudder their face

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              I think at the very least, when he goes, the absolute orgy of backstabbing amongst the various factions on the right will result in not a hell of a lot getting done for at least a good 4-6 months. What happens after that is entirely dependent on the timing of his death, who’s left standing at the end of said infighting, any major world events/possibly natural disasters in the interim, and (if he’s still in the picture at that point) Jimmy the Loveseat’s ability or failure to herd cats.

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          Did you ever stop to think that Trump could be faking his dumb af persona? Just like Maduro did.

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            He’s not, multiple people from his early years remarked on how exceptionally dumb he was. He’s undergone significant cognitive decline in the past 20 years. It was apparent in 2016 and has only gotten worse since then.

            He’s been a puppet for the entirety of his political career.

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    The renewable energy stuff is expected, but these I find more… interesting:

    • International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance
    • UN Democracy Fund
    • International Law Commission
    • Peacebuilding Commission
    • Office of the Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Violence Against Children
    • International Tropical Timber Organization
    • UN Collaborative Programme on Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation in Developing Countries;

    “We explicitly state that we don’t care about peace, democracy, and violence against children”

    • Permanent Forum on People of African Descent

    “Also, f*ck African people in particular”

    • UN Entity for Gender Equality and the Empowerment of Women

    “… and women”

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        Not only him.

        A huge amount of USians are rejoicing since this is what they are and want to be.

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    Hilarious because the US was in this organizations so they could control their actions and influence their decisions. They’ll probably get a lot more done without the US.

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      That’s what’s so funny about the postwar order. Could you imagine if these same clowns found out the CIA was funding feminist magazines and such? They’d help those movements so much.

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      I laughed when I read the list of organization names and saw “Education Cannot Wait”. Because I mean that one had it coming: it’s so clearly anti-MAGA!

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    He’s going all in this year.

    He has to. The Files and midterms are going to be bad for him, he has to keep the pace of escalation.

    It will go fast now. By the end of this year the democrats will be labelled as a domestic terror organisation.

    Your window to use your 2nd amendment is closing rapidly. Make citizens arrests of ICE officers, film it, post it on decentralised social media.

    Organise, arm yourselves, strike, share food and shelter, use burner phones, use encrypted messaging apps (matrix).

    Failure to do so will kill millions and fuck the world at a time we need to unite for climate change.

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      • learn to fly FPV and build stuff that flies, it’s fun, I hope it will be a peaceful hobby
      • learn about fiber optic networking, it’s fast and cannot be jammed, especially learn the peaceful applications of single mode bare fiber

      I hope you will never have to study the other applications, but if you must, already knowing how to fly and transmit signals over fiber will be handy.

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      Make citizens arrests of ICE officers, film it, post it on decentralised social media.

      What is the next step in this fantasy? Citizen’s execution? Turn them over to LE and immediately get imprisoned? This is open rebellion against the government. Which, fine, but if that’s the idea then ‘peacefully arrest the enemy’ is a bad war plan.

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        I think rebels should start thinking more organizationally. Not everyone needs to be willing to die or kill to create a strong resistance. Sabotage can come in many forms, like stealing or destroying critical supplies; creating confusion or slowing down the enemy can be huge tactical advantages. I think if people really want to civil war this shit, then “get guns” isn’t helpful. Instead we should be suggesting things like “wear masks an obfuscate your identifiable characteristics and move road blocks into the roads leading to/from ICE facilities” and “dismantle or create a blockage for their buildings plumbing or water supplies”.

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      use encrypted messaging apps

      And make sure the app provides an option to delete messages after a specified amount of time. That way if someone in the chat is arrested and forced to unlock their phone, or their phone is hacked into, there is as little data as possible for them to parse. I know Signal provides this option.

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      Trump just proposed increasing the defense budget from $900 billion in 2026 to $1.5 trillion in 2027. So, I expect you’re correct.

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      Prepared already since 2016, they want war with reasonable citizens. Armed up a rogue agency that abducts people into jails where no city or state politicians can enter.

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    Muricans, you do realize this is the end for you, right?

    Nobody in the rest of the world will ever trust the USA. If you are still naive enough to think you can vote him out later, and by some miracle that does happen, the rest of the world will always distrust you

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      Yeah, about 80 people have said that to us online just today. We know. We don’t like this either.

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        I’m so glad there’s so many geniuses on the Internet to tell me how bad my country is everyday. Really makes things a lot better.

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          What’s amazing is they’re obtuse enough that they don’t understand Germany started two world wars and we trust them just fine.

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              The war ended, the Nazis persisted and often times the skilled ones were taken as was reparations by the allies.

              It logically has to happen or they win the world.

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            They had to lose both of those wars and completely rebuild their political institutions for that trust to be rebuilt lol. Nothing like that will happen here. Nobody is coming to save you.

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              Yeah I mean setting aside the facts that Germany was literally split in half for 40 years after WW2 and governed by outside forces for a time, was basically forced to enact reforms to prevent the elevation of fascists to their government again, and had a thorough set of war crime trials (a process created from the ground up specifically for Germany), they basically just whistled dixie and the world started trusting them again when they elected a different chancellor. /s

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              Ya huh, .ca might as well be .ru as this point. All you all do is call for armed uprising and vocalize your doom spiraling and saber rattling.

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            Technically they only started one world war and even that is debatable.

            After the first one they got shafted so hard by everyone that they still felt the pain years later. Which kinda lead into Hitler’s coming into power.

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            And Japan. And Vietnam. And fucking CHINA!

            Then again, America is pretty much confirmed to be a nation of mostly idiots or lazy losers, so of course we would forgive our enemies. After all, we can make money from them!

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            That’s because Germany is an European country, the continent that gave birth to western civilization.

            The US is just a former colony. Nobody cares about rebels

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              Germany is just some backwater Roman conquest. I don’t know what the fuck you’re on about. Greece gave birth to western civilization, not some wooded hill full of bear worshippers.

              See how dumb you sound?

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                The difference is that they are a former colony of the glorious Roman empire, not some islanders

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          It’s been decades of US-centric media, political commentary, and general cultural dominance/presence in our lives in most English speaking countries whether we liked it or not.

          I kind of read this as the elastic band snapping back, we’ve had to hear so much about the US for long, this is almost cathartic. And it’s not people on the fediverse who are responsible, unfortunately you’re probably the most empathetic group in a social media platform at all. You just happen to be here. With a lot of cynical, anti establishment nerds who have a space to vent.

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        Then, please organize and fight… don’t give up before attempting to leave the couch!

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      His cultists believe that the USAs position in the world is unassailable, that they can simultaneously isolate and withdraw while influencing with tariffs and might. This is why it is beyond imperative that every country on this planet divest themselves of American influence. Cut trade, find new partners, let them isolate themselves to death. Fuck em.

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        As an American, yes. There’s no way to take us on militarily, so it must be economical. The rest of the world’s governments have been reluctant thus far to distance themselves from ours like they should, though. Private citizens of the world, avoid spending money on anything American as much as possible!

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          As an American, yes. There’s no way to take us on militarily

          This is what you get wrong all the time… sure we cannot fight you head on and win… but you cannot colonize the world either. You could destroy the world and if so, congrats becoming kings of the smoldering leftover Earth

          The USA thinks they can just conquer the world and plunder but history showed you could not do that in Vietnam, in Afghanistan, in Iran or Iraq… and this was when nobody at home was suffering much and nobody there cared about the brown people being slaughtered on the other side of the world

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            Oh, you can fight us off from taking over other places; I was referring to other places trying to defeat us on our home turf. The US would simply nuke the world so everybody loses if that were attempted.

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              Oh, you can fight us off from taking over other places; I was referring to other places trying to defeat us on our home turf.

              nobody wants that and the internal infighting will take care of most of it anyway

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      Trust is like a sheet of paper. Once you crumple it up, you can flatten it again but it will never be the same.

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      It’s overdue. We’ve been too big for out britches for a long time now. The downfall didn’t have to include this much suffering, though.

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      Yep it’s the nightmare we’re in now. We may kick them out every other 4 years but the American public is stupid and easily forgets. The rights brainwashing in this country is beyond effective and they are winning. It’s leaving me extremely angry and depressed.

      The time to squash this was during his first run and by landslide numbers and make it so these Nazi fucks never were emboldened.
      .now it’s going to take at least twenty years straight of defeating them to make them even remotely reconsider their stances.

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      As well it should be. If our government is so easily able to avoid and ignore all laws, no one should trust it. And if we can’t draw sufficient support from our local ranks to make it stop, we should not be trusted either.

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        not sure what you call “last time” but in my last time, the USA became a distrusted entity with Bush and that never recovered. Now, it’s an active enemy (so it does keep getting worse)

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      The end for this country really got accelerated about 10 years ago, it’s all momentum wince then.

      The US has a LOT of inertia, but dammit if it’s corruption isn’t doing everything it can to find new brakes.

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        I’ve heard it said that historically when a country or empire starts collapsing, for some reason, the people and government paradoxically behave in ways that speed up that collapse.

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      And what are you doing to suppress the Far Right Movement that is rising in your country? I don’t even have to ask which country, because the ENTIRE world is under pressure, if they haven’t already been captured.

      America is just the first target, the Canary in the Coalmine. Once we’re out of the way, conquering the rest of the world will be much easier, and that includes wherever you are.

      So instead of gleefully reveling in the schadenfreud of America’s demise, you should be sweating about what comes next in your nation, and trying to support and encourage America to increase its resistance before YOUR country becomes the next front line.

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        Nobody is gleefully revelling in schadenfreude of the far right rise in the US. Quite the contrary ffs

        Why do you think fascism is on the rise everywhere? Because most of the western world follows the US (and also because the US pushes for that )

        We’re trying our best to hold the line in our countries but we can’t invade the US to kidnap your dictator like the US can. It has to be the US people to topple him

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          Nobody is gleefully revelling in schadenfreude of the far right rise in the US. Quite the contrary ffs

          Simply not true. I’ve been answering MANY posts celebrating the fall of America.

          Why do you think fascism is on the rise everywhere? Because most of the western world follows the US (and also because the US pushes for that)

          Historically, America has done more to stop fascism than any other nation on this planet. That is a simple historical fact. Ironically, the only other country who could possibly make that claim is Russia, after their devastating losses to the Nazis in WWII, before turning the tide, and ruthlessly destroying them in return.

          MAGA’s brand of fascism is a relatively recent occurrence, and has been proven beyond any doubt that it was instigated and stirred by Russia, who has been supporting fascist and white supremacist movements across Europe and America, the same way the Saudis and Iranians support Muslim extremist operations. Brexit, as well as the rise of fascist parties and candidates in France, Germany, and other countries can all be traced back to Russian support.

          So stop blaming the biggest victim, and start calling out the real source of all this nonsense - PUTIN.

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            LMAO, US is literally the original fascist country that the nazis tried to emulate with lebensraum. It is the most evil entity on this planet to date.

            putin’s russia supporting some marginalized neonazis to destabilize europe is nothing compared to the dozens of literal fascist coups staged and puppeteered by the US starting way before putin was even born.

            Now the citizens of the empire are reaping what the oligarchs of old have sowed with quiet support from the liberals. Fascism is simply coming back home.

            And I know it seems like a good strategy to just blame all your country’s issues on putin or russia. It might even be “tactically correct” and get democrats even more landslide victories in 26 and 28 (if there even are elections) - xenophobia and racism are widespread among americans, and it’s probably going to work to a degree.

            But think about what happens next. Almost all democrats are bought by more or less the same billionaires who pay the republicans. They will not improve the lives of average americans in any meaningful way, because that would eat into the oligarch’s profits. Then the american populace, in debt, lonely, obese, struggling to afford rent, and stuck in constant traffic, will unleash their anger once more and vote for the opposition (i.e. republicans) again.

            Nothing will change until you recognize the root of your issue: specifically, that a few dozens of rich men† have had a dictatorship over your country since its founding. The only way to rectify this is to end the exponential accumulation of wealth, a.k.a. capitalism.

            † the gender doesn’t actually matter much, but it makes the whole thing a bit more likely to end in a total world war

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      Serious question, what sort of constitutional amendment would you think would be enough to earn the world’s trust back? Is there anything at all? I know most of us would be very much in support of a maximum age to hold presidential office, as well as a lot more transparency being required of that office.

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        Serious question, what sort of constitutional amendment would you think would be enough to earn the world’s trust back?

        None. The issue is not that you don’t have the right legal framework (although we can discuss a lot in that area). The problem is that you made it clear that whatever laws are in the books, they are for the poor people, if you are rich you are above the law and finally here we are. Trump has broken laws, ethical guidelines, policies, etc and literally nothing has happened.

        Without changing a single law, if you had actually prosecuted Bush for war crimes (and actually punish him and his regime) we would not be here.

        Some people alluded that Germany is trusted after the Nazis, but they seem to fail to see that they literally had to hang Nazis, ban all things Nazi and eat crow for a long while before things started turning.

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          Trump has broken laws, ethical guidelines, policies, etc and literally nothing has happened.

          Not nothing. He was re-elected President by the American people, and even won the popular vote this time.

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        I can’t answer for the rest of the world, will trust the US again when it abolishes capitalism and makes sure that wealth/power can not be hoarded by private individuals or unaccountable organizations. This is the only solution. Everything you propose is just a bandaid on a gaping wound that is the dictatorship of capital; it doesn’t really matter how effective or competent the governance structure is, as long as it is subservient to a few billionaire oligarchs.

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      Oh well, nothing we could have done anyway. Protests, strikes, violence, none of it changes the trajectory of this country into the shitter.

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      The joys of “living” in a failed state. We are unlikely to ever recover and will become something like feudal Japan. Zero legal connection to the outside world. Control by various warlords. Suppression of dissonance.

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        Big difference, though, feudal Japan didn’t have the most powerful military in the world, nor military bases all over the world.

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          I’m not sure that we will maintain all of the military dominance much longer. Although we may remove them and deploy them closer to home (Venezuela, Mexico, Cuba)

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            Depends on how much we rely on other countries for our military tech and how willing they are to cut us off, I suppose.

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      IS IT??? OH MY GOD THE END I DIDN’T KNOW THANK YOU!!!1!!1!!!11!!

      We know. Like a mosquito buzzing around our ears every five seconds, we know. Why not post that somewhere it might be actually news instead of circlejerking here?

      • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Other countries have intel and counter intel organizations, they best be looking at our military and government now because this is the beginning of WWIII.

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      The UN is functionally dead. It doesn’t succeed in preventing conflict anymore, nor in saving people and the planet. And with it many other international organisations that held shit together in a somewhat predictable way since WW2.

      History shows: next comes conflict. Large scale, very large scale. In fact possibly a scale we’ve never seen before.

      If anything is left after that (nuclear age): the winner(s) make a new set of organisations that bring different actors together and new rules for the game.

      The craziest part is that it’s the dominating USA itself pulling the plug on its own world dominating organisations…

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        The singular point of the UN isn’t to prevent conflict, there’s been plenty of armed conflicts since its inception, but one important part of it is hosting a forum between countries and especially giving the countries who are otherwise typically underrepresented (e.g. South American and African countries) in international discussions a means of making their voices heard.

        It also hosts a number of organizations that allow international cooperation for common goals, with or without the US, that is usually more effective than any country doing it on its own.

        There are issues and this recent visible regression to “might makes right” rhetoric is absolutely dangerous, but the UN shouldn’t die because the three biggest nuclear powers are assholes.

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          The most powerful table in the UN is ruled by 5 nuclear superpowers, 3 of them are out: Russia, China, USA. A fourth (UK) has nukes which are not fully independent from the USA and basically lost their empire they had when they were given this prime seat, they are less powerful than they seem. That leaves France as sole UN defender. Weirdly you could even see China still being a somewhat stabilising factor. UN goal is indeed not to prevent all conflict, but it definitely was to contain conflict. 2/5 and maybe 3/5 want more conflict in the world, it is very clear, they want to prey on smaller, non nuclear armed countries.

          Then you could also look at it in raw power: amount of nukes, ships, soldiers, missiles et cetera. In that case it’s waaaay more than 3/5th that are out, because USA military is so fucking massive and the guy at the top of that who should be in jail or dead just announced he wants to increase the size of that massive, non UN-compliant military machine by another 50%… Unless USA get their shit together ASAP, UN is useless for protecting all the smaller member states. The goal of mediating any conflict in UN is simply unachievable without USA, because they hold the (raw, military) power. It has become quite likely the UN will indeed die because the major security council members are ruled assholes. Who’s making deals about environment or climate when their neighbours/“allies” are threatening annexation and no big power reacts (worse, they’re the one anbexing)? Right: no one.

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        The global order they built didn’t allow them to be racist and exploitive enough for their tastes.

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      I was wondering exactly the same. I mean seems like they’re withdrawing from a large number of UN orgs here.

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      It should and I genuinely don’t know why it hasn’t sooner. It should have happened in 2016

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    • 24/7 Carbon-Free Energy Compact;

    • Colombo Plan Council;

    • Commission for Environmental Cooperation;

    • Education Cannot Wait;

    • European Centre for Countering Hybrid Threats;

    • Forum of European National Highway Research Laboratories;

    • Freedom Online Coalition;

    • Global Community Engagement and Resilience Fund;

    • Global Counterterrorism Forum;

    • Global Forum on Cyber Expertise;

    • Global Forum on Migration and Development;

    • Inter-American Institute for Global Change Research;

    • Intergovernmental Forum on Mining, Minerals, Metals, and Sustainable Development;

    • Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change;

    • Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services;

    • International Centre for the Study of the Preservation and Restoration of Cultural Property;

    • International Cotton Advisory Committee;

    • International Development Law Organization;

    • International Energy Forum;

    • International Federation of Arts Councils and Culture

    • International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance;

    • International Institute for Justice and the Rule of Law;

    • International Lead and Zinc Study Group;

    • International Renewable Energy Agency

    • International Solar Alliance

    • International Union for Conservation of Nature

    • Partnership for Atlantic Cooperation;

    • Regional Cooperation Agreement on Combatting Piracy and Armed Robbery against Ships in Asia;

    • Regional Cooperation Council;

    • UN Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC)

    • International Law Commission

    • Office of the Special Representative of the Secretary General for Children in Armed Conflict;

    • UN Population Fund;

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      No I think that would give too much importance to a domestic issue that will be drowned out by other events within days or weeks anyway.

      I think this must be viewed through the lens of international relations. The vast majority of Americans have no idea what these organizations do.

      I think the US administration purposefully timed its action in Venezuela to ring in its new power-based paradigm of international relations. This here is just the logical second step, making sure that the departure from rules based international relations is perceived by other countries as a credible change in doctrine as opposed to short-term maneuvering. There is a term for this in game theory, but I forgot. Essentially you make a high cost move that restricts your own future decision space. This projects resolve as it makes it difficult to impossible to reverse course in the future due to the high sunk costs.

      IMO this is the international politics version of “taking the bandages of”. It’s essentially the preamble to an international (military) intimidation campaign that will follow over the next weeks and months.

      Seeing this, I think the likelihood that the US will try to coerce Denmark into giving up Greenland with military force is close to certain.

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        Yeah. I think this is the likely answer.

        Amongst the sheer number of initiatives and councils being pulled out of, concerningly many of them relate to the enforcement of international law, and to human rights in general.

        If the US was planning on violating international law (again) anytime soon, this would certainly be a good indicator for it.

        I wouldn’t be surprised to see Donny J make good on his threats. Question is how will that play out when both parties have nukes and might be willing to use them.

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          But when has the US ever cared about what other countries think? Sure, they’ll pay lip service, and might even change their actions if it doesn’t interfere with their plans, but it’s never let it stop them from doing something they feel is important.

          I see Stephen Miller’s fascist fingers here, egging on Donnie’s tough guy, “we don’t need you telling us what to do” impulses.

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        We are “lucky”, that the Trump admin about their imperialistic goals. To quote them directly, they want to exert control over “their” hemisphere.

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    The American Experiment is well and truly coming to an end, and I think we can mostly agree that it is ending an abject failure.

    The big question is: what comes next? Will it be the age of the American Empire, or the start of America’s Century of Humiliation?

    Mind you, neither answer is a particularly good one - seeing as how the rest of the world has basically built itself up based off the foundation of a unipolar world.

    We are cursed to live in interesting times.

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      Let’s not kid ourselves, the American Century of Humiliation started back in 2016, when 63M people got conned into electing this clown the first time. As for the start of The American Empire, that’s never going to last past his death. This is just the end-stage of the billionaires being given total control; they’re looting everything they can grab and steal before the whole thing comes crumbling down, consequences be damned.

      The next couple years are gonna be brutal, total economic collapse is a real possibility, and American status will NEVER recover.

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      Dumb down your young generation to keep yourself in power, until the dumb people gets old and inherit the power…

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      I hope for a split akin to the divorce idea where some blue states or maybe cascadia split off and the red states just collapse instantly. Hopefully id be able to escape to a good place if that happens

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      Pretty sure it’s ending in China becoming the leader, look at EVs and solar, China also comes out with new AI models from research groups that do almost as well as our big tech AI while being open source and using way less compute. Example Deep seek and z image turbo

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    Looks like the US is intent on starting this year with a bang.

    The list is HUGE and spans across so many agencies and so many disciplines it’s absurd.

    I mean FFS does Donny J actually mean to tell us that the “Science and Technology Center in Ukraine” runs contrary to US interests?

    If that’s actually true - that doesn’t spell good things for the US’s future intentions for Ukraine.


    Also a few of these are rather telling of the current trajectory of the US’s policies:

    • Intergovernmental Forum on Mining, Minerals, Metals, and Sustainable Development;

    • Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services;

    • Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

    • International Renewable Energy Agency;

    • International Union for Conservation of Nature;

    • UN Collaborative Programme on Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation in Developing Countries;

    For starters this is a metric fuck tonne of environmental initiatives to pull out of, and shows the Republican-led US is going to be making a generational push towards screwing over the environment.


    … And then some other notable initiatives:

    • Freedom Online Coalition;

    • Global Forum on Migration and Development;

    • Global Counterterrorism Forum;

    • International Centre for the Study of the Preservation and Restoration of Cultural Property;

    • International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance;

    • International Institute for Justice and the Rule of Law;

    • UN International Law Commission;

    • UN International Residual Mechanism for Criminal Tribunals;

    • UN International Trade Centre;

    • UN Office of the Special Representative of the Secretary General for Children in Armed Conflict; Secretary-General on Sexual Violence in Conflict; and Secretary-General on Violence Against Children;

    • UN Democracy Fund;

    • UN Entity for Gender Equality and the Empowerment of Women;

    It’s rather concerning how many of the councils the US is pulling out from relate to international law, upholding democracy, and to human rights in general.

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    Despite what they think they can’t take on the whole world. They are just going to get a lot of people killed. Now when it comes time for them to get something done beyond their reach they will have no way and no agreements to negociate or guarntee representation other than violence.