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    Imagine being so evil even your dumbest dick rider starts to question it.

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    Gosh, Joe. Is Trump bad? Does he want to do bad things? Was voting for him bad? Does that make you bad?

    Don’t worry about it, buddy. You were still right to tell everyone you supported him and would vote for him and that you wanted him to hold you in his big strong pudding-arms while you fell asleep. You were right to support him on air with your millions of idiot listeners. It’s ok, pal. Just let everyone know that you don’t approve of this latest bad stuff and then it’s not your fault. There you go, guy.

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      “I voted for Mr. Hitler because he’d be good for the economy, but I didn’t go in for all that Jew-killing stuff. You can’t blame that on me.” --German Citizen, 1946

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      There’s no skirting the fact that Rogan’s platform directly benefited voter turnout for the pedo nazis. If he’s oblivious to his contribution, he’s an idiot. If he’s aware of his contribution, he’s a pedo nazi/sympathizer.

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        Rogan has said that Trump himself told him that he only won because of Joe. He is very much aware of what he’s done.

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    “Are we the baddies?” ponders Gen-X’s Rush Limbaugh copycat after decades of being a mouthpiece for Russian agitprop.

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      It was scary to do it before. In a post Renee world, it’s much easier.

      Heroes make the world better for everyone, even the evil people.

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    Going to be?

    Joe Rogan, you have always been one of them, you fascist fuck. You helped create this and you will pay for your part in it.

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      If the last 50 years have taught us anything it’s these fucking people never have to pay for their misdeeds. Not in this reality at least.

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        Joe Rogan 7 years ago… “like Hitler was kinda ok if you think about it” takes huge toke on a joint " like gestapo was super based", musk in the corner laughing uncontrollably, oh shit is that Neil degrassi tyson?

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          I’m actually talking about when he was a Bernie supporter but I guess people either don’t know that he was, or are completely rewriting history inside their own heads so that he was always as bad as he is now so they can virtue signal about how good and moral they are for having never liked the bad person.

          I stopped interacting with him and his show entirely when he started dipping into antivax and covid conspiracy hard. I enjoyed it before that. If you didn’t, good for you.

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        In 2019 Rogan was what?

        The funny thing to me is that on Fear Factor he was literally the guy saying “you will eat ze bugs” and now that’s a right wing conspiracy about leftists.

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        Back when he was “just asking questions,” right?

        I still didn’t know what the fuck children like you think the word based means, but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t mean “spewing Steve Bannon talking points to hand trump the election”

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          Back when he was a Bernie supporter actually, I’m sorry you don’t have a memory. Covid is when he went off the deep end, which would be right around 6 years ago.

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          I never really liked newsradio too much if I’m being honest. It was meh

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          Even before that bro. Personally I don’t think he’s ever been worth listening to, but he was past insufferable at least 2-3 years before the 2016 election.

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      Yes but rogan’s betrayal was not possible without the party forcing unwinnable strategies with the most unpopular choice, without a single challenge. None for house or senate either.

      First thing is first, the dem party running opposition is multiplying this massive formula by zero right at the start.

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        Kamala was objectively a better choice than Trump, it was obvious to anyone who wasn’t brain rotted by people like Rogan.

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          Syphillis is objectively better than aids.

          But it was not going to win the election, much less restore the republic.

          We knew being not the other guy was not enough, that the other guys are nazis, that the electorate does not know that.

          So explain to me why forcing a doomed to fail strategy is not disqualifying for dem establishment figures?

          Even now you regurgitate their projections of blame? Why should anyone trust your analysis of anything if you still trust those establishment conservatives to run the dem party while you are at it?

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              You cannot be serious. I levied questions about how the election was thrown by the dems from the start.

              You cannot answer with reason.

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                The reasonable choice was to vote for Kamala out of sheer harm reduction. Throwing a hissy fit and taking your ball and going home helped nobody.

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                  You are vote shaming which is neither here nor there.

                  The question is knowing status quo candidates whose only selling point is they are harm reduction, was not enough to win, let alone with the most unpopular candidate they had on offer, never breaching 30 pc approval all term pre anointation, the vp of a prez at 40 pc for 3 years.

                  You knew the situation, but trusted the same people that gave us hillary and biden, to run a doomed to fail strategy.

                  So how is it reasonable to appoint kamala, and accept her and the status quo strategy knowing it was throwing the game?

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                I’m Canadian dipshit, I don’t have any particular connection to one party or the other. It was clear as day that Kamala was a status quo politician, and Trump was going to do pretty much what he is doing. Actually I didn’t think Trump would be this bad in fact.

                There is just no universe where you justify that having a milquetoast politician is worse than whatever the fuck this fascist nightmare is. And it was clear as day to anyone who wasn’t an abject moron.

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                  You call me a dipshit, but I knew kamala would lose and you did not.

                  What does that make you?

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              Typical, counter attacking, however lamely, to avoid taking responsibility. You have no logical arguments so you have to resort to those tricks the dem establishment taught you to stop any realignment.

              More proof your analysis, stated opinions, are worth nothing to those in reality. Either pretending to believe dems are a credible party and lying to our faces, or believing it.

              If the former you would think neoliberal surrender to fascists is in your interest, so your understanding is laughably wrong and disqualifying in either case.

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        Not entirely sure why you’re getting downvoted, yeah, I’m sure not close to a fraction of what has happened would happen under Kamala, but, they are beholden to the exact same billionaire Epstein class donors that the other side was, and she wouldn’t have cut out the rot that was festering in the idiot swamp. It would just keep festering.

        We certainly have the benefit of hindsight, and I could have told any one it would be bad, but a lot of this seems like it might have been inevitable one way or another. You might as well call the dems controlled opposition with how inept they’ve been in the face of existential threat. The fight is hardly left/right, it’s up/down. It’s just the upper class knows to use the violent people in the lower class against each other, through desperation and propaganda, while they all collude at the top.

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          The dems are still playing good cop to r bad, for donors. Ratcheting to plutocracy.

          But r’s are not playing bad cop, they are playing hitler, in the open, for a faction of that plutocracy. We all knew it or should have. Anointing kamala without challenge to run as status quo against a reform ticket is beyond foolish, into knowingly throwing the game.

          Arguing kamala is better misses that she could not win and anyone that did not realize that lacks credibility on any subject.

          Until they admit they were wrong to trust the establishment, and outlines how they are going to change that.

          Frankly it is the least they must do if we want to take the country from the party openly planning on fixing elections and persecuting the opposition and you know, the whole nazi thing.

          Probably too late already. Maybe a chance in the succession, with a Popular Reform ticket aggressively pursuing a New Deal.

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    ‘Rogan said it was “very ugly to watch someone shoot a U.S. citizen, especially a woman, in the face.”’

    It’s very ugly to watch anyone shoot another person in the face.

    FTFY, you scumbag

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    Joe Rogan is the gestapo’s voice. Joe Rogan is a piece is shit plus he is not funny.

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      I don’t think he ever was. I never understood why people liked him. He always seemed like a poser to me. He wanted to be a cool guy, he wanted to be funny, he wanted to be a UFC fighter… I guess that kind of describes everyone in the “manosphere”.

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        At one point he was actually kinda open minded and could raise an interesting discussion from time to time. Those days are loooooooong fucking gone. It’s all just ego maintenance and propaganda now.

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          Admittedly I found him through his conversations with scientists I enjoyed listening to. Those days were good, they’d just have conversations about black holes and quantum physics. Then shit got absolutely out of hand and I never listened to him again.

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            Yeah I think what’s missed is that there weren’t a lot of long form podcasts like that at the time. It was great to be able to hear someone like Sean Carroll come on and talk about Spacetime for 3 hours and then have Joe convince him to start his own podcast, which is still going and really dang good. Joe served as the interested but uninformed audience to just kind of keep the person talking. Not to defend what it’s become, but it wasn’t always like it is now

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              It’s too bad so many people found Joe Rogan more interesting than Stuff You Should Know, even though the latter started before Rogan. Josh and Chuck don’t have whacky guests, but they talk about the coolest topics.

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                talked*,

                after I saw that Terrance Howard one I think I lost some IQ points and all of my respect (what little was left) for Rogan.

                now there’s way better podcast like star talk or anything else.

                people figured out his formula, anyone left listening is on the bottom of the dev curve.

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          So what you’re saying he was always a moron, just was open minded and let his guests carry the conversation?

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                No he doesn’t actually, he’s genuinely dumb. Covid broke his brain, and he retreated from the criticism into a right wing bubble and that’s now his entire worldview because it’s just one big echo chamber

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                  Both can be true, it is always a mix of believing and pretending to with them. I listened to him advance arguments about prez’s lawsuits on media he knew were bs, and castigating environmental protesters with arguments he knows are not valid.

                  But yeah I am sure he believes a lot of it, or starts to believe in the echo chamber even. These people have no fealty to reality, society, the republic that made them rich and protects their wealth. They believe in nothing outside of self interest, emulating people like the president.

                  They do not even look at it like true or lie, good or bad, only if it helps them or not.

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        He’s relatable. He’s that guy that’s cool to chill with on the couch and talk about random shit. But he’ll chill with everyone from scammers to Nazis on that couch.

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        He has a few comedy bits I like but those are more like diamonds in the rough

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      His early comedy was funny in the 1990s bro sort of way. His podcast was hysterical when it was just him smoking weed with redban. The joey diaz fleshlight commercials are still funny to me “they put a little clean shaven monkey in there”

      This was before the big money showed up to the podcast.

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        I tried listening to his podcast when it got big. It’s was boring as shit. I don’t know how people can listen to him talk for hours at a time.

        I can maybe listen to a curated version where they cut out 98% and only leave in the part where they actually say something interesting.

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    He doesn’t get a pass on his past, but if it moves the needle on his followers, good. Better this than even more bootlicking. It’s a crisis/war right now. Accounting can happen after.