Don’t get me wrong, I totally understand the rules of the game, its rather simple. My question is how do people manage to play out 3 rounds in less than 5 seconds?
For me, it’s a multi-step mental challenge that would take me like 15 to 20 seconds slowed down to complete.
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- Pick a word, Rock, Paper, Scissors
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- Remember how to shape my hand
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- Punch Rock into my palm a couple times anyways, as apparently Rock is the default before the actual sign is thrown
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- Remind myself how to arrange my own hand sign when the round is up
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- Observe the opponent’s sign, which is only presented for about a half of a second
- ?. Oh fuck, I didn’t have enough time to register the opponent’s hand sign
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- Feel like a fucking idiot and walk away
Seriously, how is this game played so quickly? Is it more suitable for people that know sign language or something?
Trusty rock!
Sorry to say but it’s highly abnormal to require that much mental effort to play rocks paper scissors
Perhaps they’re going slightly too fast but what you’ve described sounds close to disability if you’re having that much trouble doing basic things like thinking between 3 options, seeing a basic hand shape, and making a basic hand shape
It probably is categorized as some sort of disability, one which I’m sure the great USA wouldn’t even recognize.
My vision without glasses is extremely nearsighted, like 20/500 nearsighted. And I didn’t get glasses until age 8, which means I didn’t adapt very well to recognizing detailed anatomy such as facial expressions or hand shapes.
Its not that I can’t, I’m just too slow at recognizing such features to be of any everyday expected practical use.
Not much you can do but try to work around it best you can 🤷♀️ your burden from sensory processing is quite high and that’s made worse by missing out on some critical developmental timings
Maybe you could pre-choose stuff and simply try to work on your timing so at least from their perspective it appears you’re playing normally
It doesn’t take much time to go “1, 2, 3, shoot” and flash a hand sign 3 times in a row. 🤷♂️
While op did have an overthinking articulation of it. The second part of understanding really quickly whether you won or lost is something that comes with experience. I can throw three signs quickly, but we’re not playing the games if there is no thought behind which sign to throw and the brain needs more time than is socially accepted to understand if i won or lost.
Comes down to experience brings efficiency.
Yeah, every single time I have encountered someone that insisted me to play the game, they can’t and won’t hold their hand sign long enough for my eyes to even focus on.
They could just as soon use that nearsighted eye refocus time to change their hand sign and always win.
20/500 eyesight sucks!
Film it for later review…? 🤷♂️
week after playing
“Hey you slimey fuck, you cheated!”
LOL!
Put it this way, I refuse to ever again work for any company that insists on gambling games to assign job duties.
Haha, once you get used to it, it’s a piece of cake. How often do you play? Mybe don’t start with the folks playing super fast.
Work managers played in like 3 seconds flat to assign job duties.
I threatened to quit if that’s what they expected of me. They ended up finding other ways to assign job duties.
Yeah, they totally assign duties arbitrarily like that.
Umm, yeah, that’s how they assigned toilet cleaning, trash, vacuum the floor duties, etc.
It was a tech shop, we had a grand total of like 8 employees max.
Sounds like a chart could have been created.
Ultimately, because both me and another skilled tech felt uncomfortable in the same fast-paced way they’d play that game, they ended up shifting away from RPS towards something like a round-robin 2 week schedule for miscellaneous job duties.
Hey, in such a small shop, I get it, it seemed like a fun seemingly simple way to assign job duties across ~8 to 10 employees, but me and one of the other experienced techs just couldn’t process the game at the speed the managers demanded.
So we ever so politely requested they change the method they used to assign the dirty job duties. We ultimately figured out how to balance the workload more towards which employee was better at what, like I’m better with heavy loads such as trash, another employee better at cleaning the toilet, and new employees got the vacuum duty.
I think it’s just practice. I also need time to think through what’s happening, but I have only played it a few times in my life. I’m not used to it.
We start out slowly with any new things. Then you do it a lot, over and over, and you don’t have to think about it anymore.
You missed:
- Steal underpants.
Wait wait, you wear underpants?
Well this is a real game changer!..
And then once you’ve mastered that, you have to add Lizard and Spock!
I’m loosely familiar with that game too, but damn that would just make hand signs effectively impossible for me…
Playing it since the kindergarten helps.
Your step number five has me a little confused. When they throw their sign, such as paper. They hold it until you also recognize either that you won or lost. There would be no point in the flashing this symbol of paper or rock or scissors so fast that the other side didn’t even register what was there. That would just create arguments.
I’ve had work managers request me to play before, to assign job duties. They’d play in 3 seconds flat, and wouldn’t slow down for you.
I refused to play, just because how quickly they expected the game to go.
Not sure who down voted you. But yeah they are playing the game wrong
Conscious, logical mental processing is quite slow. Anything we learn to do well happens unconsciously and happens at a much faster speed. Think about any task you’ve learned to do well and can do really fast. Your not thinking consciously about each detailed step, your brain just knows how to do them without the plodding involvement of thinking about them.
My natural vision is like 20/500, very nearsighted.
I’m pretty good with BMX flatland balance tricks, so good in fact that I can do a number of them blindfolded, as it allows me to focus not on my vision but on my balance. So that to me is mostly natural, and doesn’t even require much visual input on open flatland.
But to play a 2 player game, where my vision requires a moment to adapt my vision and focus from near to far and back, plus not get confused by the shear lines from my glasses as I turn my head, then it’s not so easy to get that natural sense you speak of.
Sigh, bad vision sucks, even with glasses…
This isn’t related to your post, but let me ask you, do you see things up close without glasses in high detail?
I’m extremely nearsighted. My vision starts to blur at about 8cm from my nose without glasses, but closer than that I can see very fine detail. It’s why I’ve never been interested in corrective surgery. Almost a super power to my deficiency. I’m at an age where my peers need reading glasses whereas I can just look over my normal glasses and read even tiny print if I need to.
Damn homie, you’re even more nearsighted than I am. I start losing focus about 18cm from my eyeball, but can see stuff up close almost like a microscope!
Here’s my collection of corrective lenses…
https://lemmy.world/post/40665025
I find the bifocals in the top right best for me.
The magnified nearsightedness is something I don’t think most folks realize we can do. I’ve never really asked anyone else with eyes like mine about it, I’ve just always assumed. Thanks for confirming.
Blessing and a curse, right? I love taking my glasses off for a bit at concerts to watch the bokeh around the lights.
The bottom left pair- I didn’t realize they made glasses like that. I figured out when I was a kid that I could press a few fingers together to make a pinhole and be able to see in focus.
Yes! The bottom left, I got 2 pairs of those from eBay for $7.16 USD.
They’re not suitable for everyday wear, but if you lose your glasses, it’s better than nothing. So, a glovebox item…
Seriously, how is this game played so quickly?
My brain doesn’t need to think through each step; it is automatic.
Think of all the steps needed to walk, including monitoring tilt. You don’t need to think about walking, you just walk automatically.
I don’t have to look at either my nor your feet to walk though.
However, I do have to look at the hand sign you threw out in RPS, interpret that into the associated word, make sure I didn’t mix up my vs your hand signals, interpret the logic, determine if it was a win/lose/draw, and keep count?
Put it this way, short of the middle finger, peace symbol, or thumbs up, I’m absolutely worthless for anything even resembling sign language.
I mention walking as a base level, but I can extend it beyond that.
As a weird example, I’m going to mention swing dancing. It is supposed to be random acts of dancing by those who are dancing with each other. Doing so requires the following:
- Identifying the tempo of the song
- Moving your feet to the tempo
- Giving or receiving direction through tactical contact only.
- Positioning your body based on the tempo of the music, your footwork, and the direction either given or received.
And a lot of dancing and other movement based communication is at a level where you don’t have to think about the individual movements even if the movements aren’t planned out. You seem to have to consciously think about these movements while others around you don’t have to.
Nah, I just don’t want others around me when I dance. It’s a wonder I ever had a cameraman a few times…
I use it as an example. There are certain actions that people can put to their autonomous reaction. Some of those actions include being able to communicate with others and being able to act in sync with others.
You may be able to perform complex physical actions by yourself, but you have issues processing outside human stimulus at a fast enough speed to play rock paper scissors at the same place that others do.
I’m saving your comment, as you have succinctly explained it better than I ever could. 👍
When you play RPS with civilized individuals, you’re meant to speak aloud your chosen object at the same time as creating the shape with your hand. The winner then proclaims victory by saying “mine”, and the next round begins.
You lost the game… 👌
I can only tell you that I know exactly what you’re saying.
Try playing in a mirror until you get comfortable seeing what each hand looks like and work on speeding up as your comfort level grows. Many people have been playing since childhood so it’s easier for them to play fast-paced
Interesting approach, which I just briefly tried.
Apparently I have dyslexia of the hand, as whether I think Paper or Scissors, I’ll just end up throwing out an incomplete arbitrary hand signal with 3 fingers…
I dunno, my mind just isn’t geared at making nor recognizing arbitrary hand/finger signs. They serve no purpose in my mind.
Now when the hand is actually doing something, like turning a wrench, grabbing a bottle, tying shoes, well yeah I totally recognize what’s going on no problem.
But hand signals in the air make about as much sense to me as trying to transcribe some dude playing air guitar into actual sheet music. There’s nothing there, the hands are moving without a purpose!
One way to differentiate between scissors and paper is that paper holds the wrist horizontally and scissors has the wrist turned vertically. It’s just a matter of practice. For sign language, people didn’t come programmed knowing ASL, they learned it over time. You can do the same with this.
You’ve already played your hand with this group, but something to consider moving forward is disguising your lack of experience with this particular game (or similar arbitrary silliness) by offering to take the worst jobs as a way to exhibit your commitment to a sense of teamwork. A good leader is willing to do even the small jobs when necessary and while it has the added benefit of sidestepping something like RPS, it could signal that you’re ready for more important responsibilities.
Try blinking
