Actually, people didn’t like both Reloaded and Revolutions. I think with what the lore was going with, they served the series right. I just think people had a hard time following what they were about.
I can. It was a great flick. They were in it to milk one more payday out of it, but I still enjoyed where it went.
In contrast, I felt Rel and Rev were a bad Aliens2 to Matrix’s Alien. Full of action, none of the pacing. The wachowskis should’ve hit up the writer who wrote the stolen Matrix manuscript for a sequel instead, but they woulda had to pay her.
Reloaded and Revolutions was one of those cases where a movie was so huge that they decided to make two sequels back to back.
The first movie would sometimes dip into weird metaphysics but it kept to its theme enough to remain in your head. It’s a fairly straightforward monomyth hero’s journey plot with themes of destiny versus agency.
The sequels were crammed full of pointless “lots of shit happens on screen” action scenes and pseudophilosophic drivel.
I think the issue with the sequels was there was quite a bit of lore to consume and you honestly didn’t get the full picture if you only watched reloaded and resurrections.
What I mean by this is that the Wachowskis were very much involved in pretty much everything that involved the matrix be it the animatrix, the video games, or the comics and encyclopedia. So with the sequels in particular if you wanted to at least try and get a grasp on what was happening you pretty much had to watch at least the first 3 shorts of the Animatrix and especially “Kids Story” and play Enter The Matrix as they were all official canon and in many cases important to the story. So I mean unless you were a die hard Matrix fan you probably weren’t going to watch the animatrix or play the game then you might be left in the dark.
Like for example the “Kid” that is introduced in reloaded. He makes a big deal out of being saved to which Neo, says twice, that he didn’t save him and that the kid saved himself. It’s not expanded on in the movies. So you’re thinking “ok…maybe Neo is doubting his nature of being the one” but we know he isn’t as he openly flaunts his power within the Matrix. It’s not until you watch the Animatrix Short “Kids Story” which explains WHY Neo says that Kid saved himself and then it opens up an entire can of worms that actually helps you understand the ending of Reloaded and Revolutions. Kids Story is so damn pivotal to the overall lore of the Matrix and most people have never even seen nor heard of it.
I’m not even joking. The Animatrix is absolutely a must watch if you want to understand the Matrix movies.
I won’t disagree that the Wachowskis had a weird way of piecing together the story. Not to mention, all of this stuff was released in one year which is impressive but also made things very convoluted.
exactly. And keep it mind it was ALL released within like a week or two of Reloaded. I was working at Best Buy when the sequel came out so I remember. Animatrix if I remember correctly literally released a few days prior to Reloaded. Hell I think Enter The Matrix released the exact same day.
I liked reloaded and revolutions even on first viewing, but I didn’t need them to feel the same way the first matrix movie felt in order to consider them good. Like, The Matrix stood out from pretty much every other movie I had seen before. You don’t get that a second time right away, especially from another movie of the same type about the same thing. They continued and closed the story very well, but none of them were an origin story, and origin stories are pretty much always more awesome than the other movies in the same series, no matter what order they are made in.
The Matrix was unfollowable, and they managed to follow it ok. They were always gonna be worse in comparison, but they aren’t actually bad.
I haven’t seen Resurrections, not for any particular reason, just keep forgetting anytime I do manage to remember it, before I remember it long enough to see it.
Matrix Reloaded.
Actually, people didn’t like both Reloaded and Revolutions. I think with what the lore was going with, they served the series right. I just think people had a hard time following what they were about.
I can’t defend Resurrections though.
I can’t defend Resurrections though.
I can. It was a great flick. They were in it to milk one more payday out of it, but I still enjoyed where it went.
In contrast, I felt Rel and Rev were a bad Aliens2 to Matrix’s Alien. Full of action, none of the pacing. The wachowskis should’ve hit up the writer who wrote the stolen Matrix manuscript for a sequel instead, but they woulda had to pay her.
Reloaded and Revolutions was one of those cases where a movie was so huge that they decided to make two sequels back to back.
The first movie would sometimes dip into weird metaphysics but it kept to its theme enough to remain in your head. It’s a fairly straightforward monomyth hero’s journey plot with themes of destiny versus agency.
The sequels were crammed full of pointless “lots of shit happens on screen” action scenes and pseudophilosophic drivel.
I think the issue with the sequels was there was quite a bit of lore to consume and you honestly didn’t get the full picture if you only watched reloaded and resurrections.
What I mean by this is that the Wachowskis were very much involved in pretty much everything that involved the matrix be it the animatrix, the video games, or the comics and encyclopedia. So with the sequels in particular if you wanted to at least try and get a grasp on what was happening you pretty much had to watch at least the first 3 shorts of the Animatrix and especially “Kids Story” and play Enter The Matrix as they were all official canon and in many cases important to the story. So I mean unless you were a die hard Matrix fan you probably weren’t going to watch the animatrix or play the game then you might be left in the dark.
Like for example the “Kid” that is introduced in reloaded. He makes a big deal out of being saved to which Neo, says twice, that he didn’t save him and that the kid saved himself. It’s not expanded on in the movies. So you’re thinking “ok…maybe Neo is doubting his nature of being the one” but we know he isn’t as he openly flaunts his power within the Matrix. It’s not until you watch the Animatrix Short “Kids Story” which explains WHY Neo says that Kid saved himself and then it opens up an entire can of worms that actually helps you understand the ending of Reloaded and Revolutions. Kids Story is so damn pivotal to the overall lore of the Matrix and most people have never even seen nor heard of it.
I’m not even joking. The Animatrix is absolutely a must watch if you want to understand the Matrix movies.
I won’t disagree that the Wachowskis had a weird way of piecing together the story. Not to mention, all of this stuff was released in one year which is impressive but also made things very convoluted.
exactly. And keep it mind it was ALL released within like a week or two of Reloaded. I was working at Best Buy when the sequel came out so I remember. Animatrix if I remember correctly literally released a few days prior to Reloaded. Hell I think Enter The Matrix released the exact same day.
I didn’t hate Reloaded, but Revolutions made me retroactively not care for it. It’s still a fun watch, though, although I’d never go out of my way.
I liked reloaded and revolutions even on first viewing, but I didn’t need them to feel the same way the first matrix movie felt in order to consider them good. Like, The Matrix stood out from pretty much every other movie I had seen before. You don’t get that a second time right away, especially from another movie of the same type about the same thing. They continued and closed the story very well, but none of them were an origin story, and origin stories are pretty much always more awesome than the other movies in the same series, no matter what order they are made in.
The Matrix was unfollowable, and they managed to follow it ok. They were always gonna be worse in comparison, but they aren’t actually bad.
I haven’t seen Resurrections, not for any particular reason, just keep forgetting anytime I do manage to remember it, before I remember it long enough to see it.
I enjoy rewatching reloading the most