So, it seems like PieFed is becoming a real alternative to lemmy.
What are the differences between these two? From a tech perspective, and also morality/ethics, if you want. Any differences in vision for these services?
Say whatever is on your mind. I want to know.
On which one should we put our weight?
Edit: I will leave this post here, which is a post by one of the devs of Lemmy that enumerates some of the things Lemmy 1.0 has. Lemmy 1.0 seems to be already in alpha stage and is already testable. The feature selection does look fantastic. Here is the post I am referring to: https://lemmy.ml/post/40744781
No, it doesn’t. A new Piefed instance defederates two specific instances - both of which your current instance also defederates.
Yeah, I should probably switch home instances again, it didn’t use to defed hexbear when I joined.
If you want to try PieFed with hexbear and lemmygrad.ml, you could check out PieFed.zip - for one thing it prides itself on rarely defederating from much of anything (obviously it blocks known CSAM instances though), and an admin there recently related how it makes federation with those two as opt-in, so blocking them for new users by default but with easy to follow instructions on how to remove that and show all content from them.
They brought this social isolation on themselves, especially that incident where hexbear admins were caught actually lying to admins of other instances. They can do whatever they want, but then again so too can everyone else - like even the anarchist instance Quokk.au defederates from hexbear, it’s simply not worth exposing everyone (especially new users) to being trolled OUTSIDE of the communities that were created specifically for trolling.
If you like leftist messaging, you may find it interesting that slrpnk.net is going to switch over to PieFed sometime this year. However, they too defederate from both hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml, so I would guess that your aim would need to be more towards neutral instances such as PieFed.zip.
And piefed removes your ability to choose that.
No, it doesn’t. A piefed site admin can change those defederations.
I may be reading this wrong, but it seems defederated instances it falls back to defederating hexbear/ml/grad? It runs every time site_instance_chooser_view is called.
defed_list = BannedInstances.query.filter(or_(BannedInstances.domain == 'hexbear.net', BannedInstances.domain == 'lemmygrad.ml', BannedInstances.domain == 'hilariouschaos.com', BannedInstances.domain == 'lemmy.ml')).order_by(BannedInstances.domain).all()Yes, they’re defederated by default (along with lots of other instances) but a piefed instance admin can remove them.
You do know that piefed.zip and anarchist.nexus removed it, and federate with hexbear and lemmygrad.
from the .zip admin:
https://piefed.zip/comment/3366842
It’s a different system if I recall, however it works as it is opt-out.
Yeah, it’s just showing that indeed Piefed.zip is still federated with HB and Lemmygrad (while still informing new users about them)
What other instances beyond the 4 listed in the code here are by default defederated? Afaiu if you try to 100% federate by having no defederated instances, this overrides and defederates from these 4 again.
Like 80 or so are also defederated.
How would you know this at all? You run a Piefed server, have you?
Why are you trying to lecture me about how Piefed must work when you’ve never run or looked at Piefed from an admin perspective?
I am reading it directly from the code in the repo.
Okay? And as I’ve told you, there are active Piefed instances THAT ARE FEDERATED WITH HEXBEAR, LEMMYGRAD AND HILARIOUSCHAOS. I’ve never heard anything about the system automatically re-applying those instances in the event of an instance wiping all preset defederations. Lemmy.zip, and thus Piefed.zip has no defederation and they currently federate with those instances.