• Zahille7@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    There is literally no reason to be peaceful anymore. There is no reason to not be kitted the fuck out when you go to “protest” anymore. There is no reason we shouldn’t just fuckin turn safeties off imo.

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      23 hours ago

      No. They want to have an excuse to declare martial law and start shooting randomly. Leave it to Minnesota, they’re handling it right.

      • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        4 hours ago

        This is some lib shit. Fuck that noise.

        If ICE keeps terrorizing communities, communities of people’s loved one, they have every right to protest that.

        I don’t know if you know this, but if ICE continue to do this shit (and they will), the the inevitable outcome is a civil war.

        This will not get better in the next year or 3 years before the next elections. It will get worse. And you’re telling people to just sit through the pain and suffering of this Admin, as if that will prevent more pain and suffering from coming.

        Tim Walz should have used the MN National Guard to defend the People of Minnesota. Ever since he was cucked by Kamala Harris after the 2024 DNC, she’s shone himself to be a limp dick that willingly bends over to lick the boot of the fascists.

        If Tim won’t protect people, they’ll do it themselves. And they’re right to.

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          2 hours ago

          Before Minnesota we barely moved public opinion, since nonviolent resistance started here, public opinion has shifted sharply. We are winning. The country is on our side. The second people take up arms the perception changes instantly. Don’t be fooled by your own anger.

      • curbstickle@anarchist.nexus
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        20 hours ago

        start shooting randomly

        … Start?

        Forget about all those they have murdered in custody, they have been shooting this whole time. Renee Good was not the first. Hell, one was off duty and had some road rage. They’ve shot quite a few people who ran away from them on foot.

        They dont need a reason, they already are. They can make up whatever excuse they want, since they clearly have no problem lying about what happens despite video showing how much they are lying.

        Minnesota still has people getting attacked, beaten, and killed.

        In Philadelphia, the DA has come out full force saying they will prosecute ICE. You have the Black Panthers (let’s not get sidetracked with the other shenanigans happening with them around the name, such stupid bullshit) walking around armed and ready. You have the Sheriff coming out directly after ICE.

        I’d prefer people taking a stand to Waltz’ message of keeping calm. IMO, he failed Minnesotans already, and friends from there feel the same. If they were doing it right, would Nekima Armstrong have been arrested? Would you have an incident where ICE claims a man “purposefully ran headfirst into a brick wall”?

        If they were handling it right, would ICE have use a 5 yr old kid as bait last night?

        The people of Minnesota are doing a decent job, but the state sure as shit isnt. The state has sent a clear message that they will not protect their citizens.

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        19 hours ago

        They want to have an excuse to declare martial law and start shooting randomly

        This shit drives me absolutely insane.

        They don’t need an excuse

        They’re going to do it anyway, so people need to fucking defend themselves however they can. Stop spouting this horseshit

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        22 hours ago

        I understand that but imo this is not going to end well, let alone peacefully.

        I just don’t see this administration/dictatorship conceding to anything just because production might have slowed down for a little bit. They’re in too deep now; they can’t just walk things back and go “whoops, sorry! How about we only prosecute a tiny fraction of agents that actually committed acts of force/violence to placate the masses” and it all cycles back around. They’re either going to get what they want or we’re going to have to stop them from taking it over our cold lifeless bodies.

        Tell me I’m exaggerating.

        • hector@lemmy.today
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          21 hours ago

          Organized citizenry capable of pulling off general strikes could exact concessions time and again as they are willing to go on general strike. Nothing would harm them more than all business in the country shutting down for an extended period of time.

          It would also show solidarity to the armed forces and security services that they plan on using to crush 1st amendment protected activity under false pretexts.

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          22 hours ago

          They’re in too deep now; they can’t just walk things back and go “whoops, sorry!

          They’ll do that in a heartbeat. In fact, they do it alllll the fucking time. LA is a perfect example and relates to this. They didn’t have anyone on their side so they picked a new target.

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        22 hours ago

        We need more of an organized strategy but otherwise I agree. Armed conflict with the US military is a suicidal strategy. The general strike concept has far more promise.

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      23 hours ago

      I can’t say what I’d like to, so I’ll just say something about how if they’re shooting us and using banned gas grenades on us, we should be responding in kind.

      The only language these fucks understand is violence, and it will take a significantly larger amount of it visited upon them for a longer amount of time for the message to become clear. WE WILL NOT TOLERATE INTOLERANCE.