I asked him “what color were the clouds back then?” and he said they were white. I asked him what happens if I take an orange light and light up something that’s white with it. He ignored me. He went on about how everyone in his age group remembers the Sun being orange, and by me questioning him, I’m calling him and all his peers liars and I’m stupid because I’m younger than him and vaccinated.
The sun is white, but the atmosphere reflects and scatters blue, allowing red and yellow to pass through. You see this effect in mornings and evenings when the sun’s light passes a much further distance in the atmosphere due to its low inclination. Your logic is sound, the clouds do appear orange at that time.
The only time you can safely look at the sun enough to determine its color normally is a sunset when it is tinted orange. I can see how he might have come to this conclusion but… wow…
Don’t validate that kind of idiocy with an argument, just say “sure, you’re probably right.” and brush off the idea of even talking about it in general.
I remember the sun being orange, but also I remember not being able to look straight at it and having it depicted on TV and pictures as orange so thats probably where that impression came from.
Maybe also sunglasses have changed over the years? Maybe our eyes change as we grow and we actually could see it as orange back then? Streetlights used to be orange but are white now, maybe that mixes in the memory?
Theres lots of explanations for the misunderstanding and none of them involve God changing the light bulb.
The sun is orange, when it’s dim enough to look at in the evening.
That’s because the atmosphere takes all the blue away
This is an old Mandela effect.
The issue is that they don’t actually remember what the sun looked like, because you can’t really look at the sun.
Their memories are of the crayon drawings that they made in school.
This person is either at lost mildly psychotic or fucking with you. It’s wild that people are down here in the comments offering evidence when the entire concept is entirely absurd. This isn’t an age thing this is a “this person is unhinged, don’t interact.”
Science went from researching medicine and technology, to desperately trying to disprove all the shit dumb people posted on Facebook, like that the earth is flat etc.
Your friend is mentally ill or an idiot, likely both.
That person has probably been using ChatGPT. Either that or this post is itself LLM-generated. One or the other.
Your friend is a fucking idiot.
That’s not a friend. Friendship is between approximate equals and requires respect and trust. He does not trust or respect you. He looks down on you for your age and ignores your valid arguments because of it. If you have any choice in the matter, get away from this person and find people who, even if they disagree, will do so from a place of reason and respect. Do not be fooled into thinking someone is a ‘friend’ just because you interact with them regularly.
Your friend has fallen down a far-right conspiracy theory rabbit hole. Sorry for your loss.
not even necessarily far-right, i jnow plenty of leftists/liberals that are dumb as fuck and believe and horoscopes and other stupid shit like that
Down votes are funny here. You are 100% correct, Idiots exist on all polical compass points.
That’s like saying heat exists everywhere in the solar system. Yes, it’s true, but it paints a mildly inaccurate picture.
Not sure where the inaccuracy is. I lean left politically but I see just as many idiots on this side as the other side. Think about raw milk, vaccines, etc. The whack jobs were more on the left than right though there were both.
LEDs don’t generate the necessary level of heat…
While the conclusion of it being replaced with an LED is obviously not what happened, I think it’s very possible that the sun was often orange for him when he was growing up, because of air pollution.
30 years ago, depending on where you lived, there were more cars on the road with less efficient fuel consumption, more people using fireplaces, more people burning trash, less regulation of various industries etc. Searching for images with the phrase “smoke pollution sun” will give you a lot of photos of orange suns, and they’re definitely not all altered for effect. I’ve seen red suns in real life too when wildfires are really bad near my area even though that’s thankfully rare.
We know not the sun itself that is orange, but in a polluted environment it certainly looks like it is - and if you don’t get a great education, I can see how you might think that’s the actual color of the sun.
I’ve never considered the colour of the sun. I’m going to get my telescope out and have a look later today!
Careful of your eyes! I’m pretty sure you need a special filter or telescope for the sun
Nah it’ll be fine Ill just have a quick peek!
30+ years ago skies used to be silver in cities from smog. Going across the mountains into Los Angeles could be like going to a different planet.
I mean same for photography, tv, film and even artistic renderings.
This makes some sense. Clearly the friend is a bit of a conspiracy theorist, or trolling. There’s a decent chance they are younger too. That being said you’re the only person with a reasonable feasible explanation that might get through to the friend.
I’m going to take a different stance to a lot of the posters here.
Your friend may be showing signs of undiagnosed mental illness.
If you value him, listen to him and confront him when he has broken away from reality. But don’t argue with him. Be firm in your disagreements but don’t argue.
Be supportive of him if you can. Make sure he has a support network (parents siblings others)
Sometimes mental illness does not manifest until early adulthood.
Know your limits. Care for yourself.
Seconded. The friend is likely going through a mental illness.
But the sun is hot. You can feel the heat radiating from it.
LEDs are not hot - that’s pretty much the main reason that they’re energy efficient, they don’t waste energy as heat.
It’s not suddenly gotten colder, so if they did switch to LEDs, then they’re also artificially compensating for the heat. Which would completely defeat the purpose of switching (presumably from an incandescent bulb) to LEDs.
Also, I’m super intrigued about who is supposedly behind this sun-bulb maintenance, and more interestingly, what could possibly be powering it
LEDs are not hot
Someones never accidentally touched an LED array.
I can guarantee you an LED array as big as the sun would generate enormous amounts of heat.and would need massive amounts of cooling.
That’s fair - my experience with handling them basically stops at individual LEDs in electronics and domestic LED lightbulbs.
Have you touched strong incandescent lights?
Sure LED arrays are hot, but cooler than old lights
LED chips can’t get above 150 °C or they fail. So high-power LED lights need appropriate cooling. And the heatsink is big and thermally conductive, making it feel hotter to the touch than it is (it delivers more heat to your finger over time). Meanwhile, the glass of some bulbs can exceed 300 °C but cools down to safe levels in a minute (or less if you touch it with something) because it’s thin.
Also, 150 °C (420 K) objects do radiate heat as black-body radiation but not that much, also it’s far-IR so only detectable with thermal cameras. Meanwhile, a light bulb’s filament is 2700 K (3000 K in halogen ones) and the Sun’s surface is 6000 K, and both produce copious amounts of near-IR light that largely contributes to the heat felt on one’s skin when illuminated (although the visible light does too).
So yes, LEDs are hot.
From a human’s standpoint, we say they’re “hot”. The fact that humans can’t handle 150 °C nor 2700 °C does not mean there’s no difference between the temperature of a sausage fresh off the grill and magma. (Yes, by the time it gets to the surface, lava is too cold)
So yes, LEDs are hot.
Boiling hot, as opposed to METAL-MELTING REMOTELY-SCORCHING HELL-BLAZING INFERNO
So yes, LEDs are hot.
They also add a radiator to keep the charade
