A federal immigration officer has shot and killed a man in Minneapolis, drawing hundreds of protesters onto the frigidly cold streets in a city already shaken by another fatal shooting weeks earlier.
  • MoreMagic@feddit.org
    302·
    15 hours ago

    It’s scary to me, how fast USA turned from ”the land of freedom/opportunity” to an openly fascist state.

    • Decq@lemmy.world
      131·
      12 hours ago

      Was it fast though? Isn’t this what lots of people were talking about how fucked up the US was already but people choose to ignore because *murica first? It was pretty obvious to a lot of people it was a crap country already

    • hector@lemmy.today
      17·
      14 hours ago

      50 years? That is the time it turned from, 1971 business roundtable made the first long term game plan project 2025 is the baby of.

      It has been fucked our entire lives getting worse.

      • BanMe@lemmy.world
        5·
        13 hours ago

        Just to be clear, this was for white folks, for BIPOC it’s never been freedom and opportunity, broadly speaking.

      • PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        14 hours ago

        Sounds about right because that’s when wages stopped keeping up with inflation and wealth inequality began to rise dramatically.

    • Tiger666@lemmy.ca
      42·
      10 hours ago

      Its been fascist for over 300 years. Where do you think Hitler got all of his ideas from? Have you read Mein Kampf? The USA has always been fascists, why do you think operation paperclip happened?

    • Soup@lemmy.world
      72·
      13 hours ago

      Haha you believed it was the land of freedom and opportunity. Ah well, we all gotta learn at some point, so welcome aboard.

  • vogo13@sh.itjust.works
    45·
    23 hours ago

    It looked like an execution to me, I believe the world will see it that way within a couple days as well.

  • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    138·
    1 day ago

    Drew Evans, superintendent of the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, said during a news conference that federal officers blocked his agency from the shooting scene, and when they returned with a signed judicial warrant, they were still blocked.

    And then, despite having the police and national guard available to secure a crime scene from the murderers themselves, they threw up their hands and tutted disapprovingly.

    • Manjushri@piefed.socialEnglish
      45·
      1 day ago

      Right?! Why the fuck weren’t the agents blocking the investigation arrested for obstruction of justice?! What the hell is going on?

      • architect@thelemmy.club
        162·
        23 hours ago

        How little attention do you pay to things?

        This is a new world order. They stole the election and killed the western world order from ww2. Replaced it with a bunch of con rapist rapist pedophile fascist traitors on task to destroy America.

        Like come on. We are being occupied. They declared war on us in July 2024.

        See this is why I fucking hate democrats. How they don’t get the message_ that the event literally fucking declared war on everyone that say isn’t them_ is proof they are failure.

    • malloc@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      59·
      1 day ago

      Rule of law has eroded in the USA. Death by a thousand cuts.

      Signed warrants. Jurisdiction. This means nothing to this administration.

  • GaMEChld@lemmy.world
    8·
    20 hours ago

    Come to NYC fuckers, we’re big fans of terrorists. Bring all of you. 8 million of us want to say hi.

    • hector@lemmy.today
      7·
      15 hours ago

      The nypd is on their side and there are how many again? 40k street goons and another 30k paper pushers? I forget i is huge.

      • GaMEChld@lemmy.world
        0·
        7 hours ago

        Minneapolis is 450K population and you see the protests there. What do you think NYC will look like under the same pressure?

        • hector@lemmy.today
          1·
          6 hours ago

          I don’t think mamadami will be able to control the police well either though. Not sure how they do the city council. I know other cities that have gotten a strong left mayor the business get the city council to strip them of power and give it to a city manager if a mayor tries to take on the cops, or supports striking workers.

      • TheGoldenV@lemmy.world
        761·
        1 day ago

        Yeah, ICE ain’t leaving. TACO has no force compelling him to do so.

        I’d bet a fiver on a 3rd killing in the next couple weeks. As soon as the first person fights back it’ll be martial law.

        I really home the general strikes take off, but the movement needs leadership and direction. Fuck.

    • Nomorereddit@lemmy.today
      161·
      1 day ago

      Whoever they are ordered to, they don’t get to decide. And history is shown repeatedly that the united states president always wins when in legal battle with a governor starts.

      • Denvil@lemmy.ml
        4·
        23 hours ago

        The hierarchy means little if the common soldiers agree and band together. They’re the ones with the guns.

        • Nomorereddit@lemmy.today
          7·
          17 hours ago

          True… but armies are deliberately built so that soldiers are trained, conditioned, and drilled to follow orders, especially when they’re carrying weapons that can kill. That culture is completely different from normal civilian psychology.

          It’s like asking a group of kids to band together and kill their grandpa. Technically, yes, anything is possible, but that’s not how a normal human brain is wired to behave.

          You need a whole institution, a hierarchy, training, pressure, and a command structure to override that basic instinct. Without that, people don’t naturally just organize themselves to commit violence on command.

        • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
          3·
          20 hours ago

          The hierarchy means little if the common soldiers agree and band together. They’re the ones with the guns.

          Not the soldiers, their commanders. Soldiers won’t be able to coordinate much beyond the scope of their platoon, maybe across a company. A rogue force of company size does not a rebellion make.

          So unless a battalion command gets together and decides to rebel, it’ll be on too small of a scale to make anything but a tactical difference. And the soldiers knows this, and they know that they’ll be severely punished. I don’t know the Minnesota national guard laws and regulations, but I suspect that soldiers helping ICE kill Minnesotans, could be facing a firing squad or the gallows.

          So no, I wouldn’t be afraid of having the national guard protect Minnesotans under the command of Tim Waltz, who himself was a command sergeant major in the army national guard.

          What would be scary would be having the national guard federalised, something we’ve seen Trump do with the same enthusiasm as raping 12 year olds. And if army commanders goes against Trump, then there’d be a real civil war, when national guard units from the Dakotas, Iowa and Michigan are federalised.

    • FelixMortane@lemmy.caEnglish
      919·
      1 day ago

      What the Fck is wrong with you (direct at everyone in the US). Welcome to your “freedom” when one of your own citizens is executed by a federal organization in the gd d*mn street. Disgusting and pathetic.

      • architect@thelemmy.club
        0·
        23 hours ago

        You know whats fucking funny? Im in America because Hitler destroyed my families homeland. Raped by a pedophile. Told I was hyperbolic about the obvious bullshit in this country. Got into elections and protests and on and on and on and ended up with people think I’m paranoid and crazy, yet here we are! Turns out it’s not paranoia if they agree really out to get you… but crazy? Yea after spending this many fucking decades with all of you stupid fucking pieces of shit to end up getting possibly taken out by a pedophile all while being shit talked by fucking foreigners who helped gather the intelligence on the good Americans in the first place and helped our militaries learn how to destroy the good Americans it appears you losers forgot you needed help with you’re own fucking fascist the last time so here, if you want a reason to hate all Americans I’ll give you one. If you let them destroy the good Americans that are standing up and getting killed enjoy the fucking nuke you’ll get in return. Laugh as it takes you next.

        • goldfndr@lemmy.ml
          2·
          14 hours ago

          fucking foreigners who helped gather the intelligence on the good Americans in the first place and helped our militaries learn how to destroy the good Americans

          Could you please be more specific? (keywords please?)

  • itistime@infosec.pub
    202·
    1 day ago

    We all may feel some impulse to act, even violently, but have a great feeling of uncertainty because there are no leaders. We need direction based off of game theory, or something. We need strategies that are surgical, because be real — we are outgunned. Yes, there are gun owners on the left, but come on, you know who has the lion’s share. Not only that, but we are different in that we hesitate to harm, because it’s the last thing we want. My dad kills animals for pleasure, but I do not. Also, if you aren’t armed now, you better do so immediately, because the gun nuts are not going to blink an eye when we are inevitably denied access.

    We need real strategy. Daggers in a select few hearts may be enough to shift things.

    Are there organizations or groups that do this? They would have to do it in secret, so how could we know? So it seems we’d have to assume we couldn’t know and form our own? Honestly, please clue me in!

    • comfy@lemmy.ml
      12·
      1 day ago

      Daggers in a select few hearts may be enough to shift things.

      If you’re proposing what I think you are, it’s sounds like something we tried in the late 1800s/early 1900s. Our lesson was that this won’t solve a systemic problem, at least in isolation. Action without a surrounding social movement is lost. Just ask Luigi - despite the widespread bipartisan approval of their action, there weren’t many copycats nor long-term changes in our conditions. And, if you saw much of other Lemmy instances at the time of that event, you may have seen various people denouncing it as ‘adventurism’, despite how cathartic it was.

  • floofloof@lemmy.ca
    511·
    1 day ago

    Trump shared images of the gun that immigration officials said was recovered and said: “What is that all about? Where are the local Police? Why weren’t they allowed to protect ICE Officers?”

    Note that these are the same Republicans who have lectured us for decades about people’s right to carry guns legally.

  • malloc@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    42·
    1 day ago

    My only question: will this administration federalize Minnesota national guard?

    • s1ndr0m3@lemmy.worldEnglish
      117·
      1 day ago

      The victim’s name is Alex Pretti

      Alex Pretti was a nurse and researcher who worked for the VA. He was executed for attempting to block Nazi Gestapo from assaulting/kidnapping a woman. 8 Nazis wrestled him to the ground and then shot him 11 times. The first shot appeared to go into his back.