Easily demonstrated by many measures: Basics: they poop and don’t need anyone to clean them. They don’t scream when a predator is around because they understand what can happen. They run from predators.
Simple: they can walk and run and find food for themselves at some point to become self sufficient.
Complex: they know who momma is and live in social groups for the most part. They communicate with each other.
Human babies never do any of this, and that has all sorts of ramifications that can be interpreted as funny, sad, or even cruel.
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we never eat babies…ha ha ha! Just pulling your leg. We don’t.
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we never jail babies…ha ha ha! Oh shoot.
Don’t go imagining things, it could hurt. Just think about these things while eating your delicious hamburger. Your burger meat was once smarter than a baby and had as much feelings as a baby does and more including memories. And they were jailed their entire life and were brutally murdered and pushed thru a grinder until they were just pieces of meat.
They sure are. That said, it’s not a very high bar, babies are pretty dumb.
That said, I don’t think the reason we don’t eat babies is because of their potential intelligence … it’s because they’re humans.
Most? Maybe some and what you are describing is cognitive and physical development. Given the lifespan of an animal and human it’s a bit of a bold thought.
Take a look at any house with multiple cats and humans and you should be able to get a good take on differing level of cognitive behaviour…this is not professional advice.
prey animals also have adaptations, like precocial birth, which is a fully developed baby that can run at birth useful in areas with alot predators, camoflauge like with deer. Hares have babies that can run at birth while rabbits have altricial babies, like mice and humans they cant do any of this and are helpless.
Weird guilt tripping post without any compelling or well thought out arguments.
Thanks my best work thus far in my entire life.
I understand that this is a shower thought, but you can only jail and murder human beings.
Why?
LOL… This just in, the superior court has announced that animals will be put to trial if they commit crimes.
They poop and don’t need anyone to clean them
That’s more because of anomatomy than intelligence. Most animals don’t have butt cheeks.
A lot of baby animals need mama to lick their butt to stimulate pooping. As a volunteer you have to rub their butt with a wet tissue every few hours.
They say it’s the opposable thumb that sets us apart, but no, it’s the butt cheeks.
Walking upright is a blessing and a curse
Pro: Stamina for days
Con: Dingleberries
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I don’t think lack of intelligence is the reason most people are fine with eating animal meat and not human babies. It’s usually that humans just value animal lives less than that of other humans.
If we had to explain to a super intelligent and powerful alien why it shouldn’t eat us but eating our animals is okay we’d have a big problem.
I believe for us the “non human” aspect is most important for us and which animals are food and which are pets is a cultural thing. Because any other property besides “non human” would eg allow us to eat dumb or disabled humans or to breed special food races of humans.
We’re gonna have to beg.
You could’ve had a legit argument… instead, you said they are smart because they don’t have to wipe after they poop?
they poop and don’t need anyone to clean them.
Let a baby walk around naked shitting anywhere and it would be just as “clean”
They don’t scream when a predator is around because they understand what can happen.
The trade off for those early vocalizations is speech…
It’s worth it.
They run from predators.
Their babies don’t, because babies of any species can’t outrun predators…
Like, what the actual fuck is even your point?
None of what you’re saying is even true and there’s a million better ways to promote veganism than this nonsense
It might not really be in the spirit of the post, but it’s because of the brain. They take a lot of power to fuel, so to keep that big brain running, we have to skimp on things like mobility. Babies can be pretty dumb, but, they’ve been learning a LOT. They just can’t tell you about it yet, but they will soon, because unlike the pig, they are listening and they are learning.
Yeah, they are comparing food animals at their best against humans at their worst.
That’s kind of like saying I can do math better than Einstein can because Einstein is dead.
That’s not intelligence in prey animals. Those are instinctual actions.
I have a dog, and have seen him experience suffering. It breaks my heart to see it happen, and I would never do anything to intentionally cause him to suffer.
Yet by eating beef, pork, and chicken I supported an industry that causes similarly intelligent animals extreme suffering for their entire lives.
I’m a pescatarian for this very reason. And even as a pescatarian, I strive to eat only wild caught fish when I do eat them. I also only eat certified humane eggs, and only buy oat milk or almond milk.
I’m still guilty of eating cheese, but if there was a certified humane cheese option, I would absolutely pay extra for it.
We don’t have to cause all this unnecessary suffering for animals. We can get all of our food from other sources, or take it from animals in a humane way.
The world certainly pulls and pushes us in different ways. I don’t eat meat for many reasons including the torture and suffering part. I’m alive and totally fine, but I think there’s definitely a learning curve about the nutrition supplements needed to stay healthy. Anyway I still have some leather belts and shoes. I like art and have unflavored gelatine used in the carbon transfer process. There are a huge number of items in our every day that used to be sentient beings.
I used to have a default Costco chicken and tortillas diet. But one day this idea clicked for me…could I go one week without meat? Nothing about the whole moral thing. Just trying. So did it and I just kept doing it. The first week is definitely the hardest. If most people stopped eating meat, things would be better for everyone… The meat industry, the planet, the animals and you.
So shower thoughts on Lemmy is basically just a rant sub?
Regurgitated tat based on either something someone said yesterday or some YouTuber/tiktokers idiotic musings.
Shower thoughts in general have benn dead a whilst.
I need to bad it as every time I see it, I think oh ffs humanity does not stand a chance.
many food animals would eat a baby
