• kadu@scribe.disroot.org
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    16 hours ago

    Now replace Windows with Linux, and fucking invest into not needing to use American-controlled CPUs as every single one of them contains a backdoor.

    I don’t understand why governments trust official matters in the hands of closed source software and suspicious hardware. Even China uses a special version of Windows 11 in public computers, this is nuts.

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      16 hours ago

      China has been working intensely for at least 2 decades to catch up, and they are still about a decade behind!

      Netherlands has ASML which is a huge advantage for European independent manufacturing, but even with that it’s an insanely expensive investment to make a realistic competitor to AMD, Intel, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Broadcom because they have loads of patents that are hard to avoid.
      Chip production is a global enterprise, and even USA isn’t independent anymore. They depend on ASML and TSMC for their most popular products in AI, Smartphones, servers, laptops and desktops. And more and more Arm is taking over from Intel/AMD.

      What we may be able to do would be using Arm and have TSMC help us with manufacturing. But to make such a project succeed is not an easy thing, we had European computer companies in the 70’s and 80’s that were heavily subsidized by governments that dominated home markets for several European countries, and they essentially all failed against international competition.
      So what we risk if we were required to use a European product funded by EU/European governments would be to have to use an overpriced under-performing technology, that would be a millstone around the neck of all of Europe.

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        16 hours ago

        they have loads of patents that are hard to avoid

        China doesn’t care about patents of outsiders.

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          Seems to me that it’s time for the rest of the world to invalidate US IP and go from there.

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          13 hours ago

          And the rules based international order has been exposed as the wink during a handshake deal. Who cares about patent law?

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        He is talking about software. A fucking video conferencing tool not controlled by American tech is no ASML level investment.

        We could at least start with this

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      Here’s my guess, and I could be completely wrong.

      All the governments use 2 sets of computers. The first, is a closed network used only internally. Open source, connected as a network, but NOT connected to outside neteorks. This uses closed source OS that they themselves develop. No backdoors. Highly secured.

      The second set is what you know. Windows 11, backdoors, easily spied on. Intentionally left open, because that’s their way to spy on the other countries.

      They leave this open, to let themselves be spied on, so that they can spy on the other side. Neither side realizing they’re both doing the same thing, and both sides just getting mostly useless info.

      Then, to throw off the trail of it being useless info, they occasionally allow a juicy bit of info into their windows computer. Just so it’s not obvious that this isn’t the real info.

      I have zero evidence, and came up with this theory after reading your comment. So I could be very wrong.

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      16 hours ago

      Ignorance, mostly. It’s sad but Chinese leaders seem to listen to their experts, while EU leaders listen to CEOs, and of large companies only.