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Buy our fighters jets or we invade with fighter jets ?
What absolute fuck is wrong with this country
Could we possibly exchange the F-35s for store credit and purchase some to send back info America?
I mean it’s always been like this basically.
But less publiclyCanada could do something really funny and start buying chinese anti-aircraft missiles.
Close. We should build our own, and if we happen to violate Chinese IP along the way, oh well.
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Does Canada have the kind of military aerospace background to speedrun a program like that? Genuinely don’t know.
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Buying from America’s enemy sends a very different message. Just building your own missile looks like America’s vassal having pout; it’ll be used against NATO’s(read America’s) enemies anyway, essentially doing what Trump asked all NATO members and increasing their contribution to America’s sphere, for free. Cozying up to the other superpower signals that Canada actually prepared to break it off if the US doesn’t cut yall a better deal.
- Does Canada have the kind of military aerospace background to speedrun a program like that? Genuinely don’t know.
60 years ago we did. The Avro Arrow program was unexpectedly killed just as production was getting read to ramp up. Why? Who the fuck knows.
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We still do. That was a nascent effort, not some built up military industrial complex and it stil exceeded all rivals at the time.
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Why? Being a supplicant to a bully.
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Going from supplicant to one abusive superpower to another sends the wrong message. Carney’s Davos speech spelled it out for you.
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Yes. We have virtually all the skills, expertise and knowhow with a few notable exceptions. (Submarines, we could build them but at great cost and a learning curve.) We could build nukes in a year if we wanted to. The delivery system would take longer than the payload, but we could do that too.
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Chinese goods are cheap because market function and the profit motive was not of central concern, neither human rights, labour rights or environmental rights. Your claim of “cheap” is badly distorted. There were costs born by the Chinese peoples across each of these domains that don’t show up on an invoice, but the bill always comes due and is paid in full. Your definition of “cheap” is a perversion of full cost accounting to suit a narrative.
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Isn’t that similar to the shit that got Turkey kicked out of the F35 program?
Yes, except Russia instead of China.
To what extent it was the US sending other countries a message “Buy American or else” vs “We think you’ll let the radar systems send data on F-35s to Russia”, we don’t know, but if the second was a genuine concern, all the better for keeping F-35s away from your airspace.
So if they don’t buy any we’re just gonna give them out free? That’s dumb.
The Art of the Deal.
With a pilot, apparently.
“Give us money or we will attack you” is generally not something you say to an ally you want to keep. Trump is literally insane, trying to start WW3.
In his narcissistic mind, everyone else is just there for him to exploit. He literally can not comprehend any other way to do things.
It’s extortion, the only thing trump knows…
This is just robbery, we weren’t able to make our schedule and modified the price. “$27.7 billion in cost – up from its initial $19 billion.”
Yet expect them to just give us $7 billion dollars because we failed to meet the contract?
Duh. That’s how extortion works.
You think the mob ever delivered anything on time and under budget?
“Buy or weapons or else…” Maybe we should look for a more reliable supplier and close our airspace to their jet fighters.
That’s technically a declaration of war, right?
Not even close.
They’re suggesting that Canada won’t be able to defend its own airspace so US will have to be able to operate more freely in Canadian than they already do. They are saying that the NORAD agreement would need to be updated to accommodate this.
Pretty sure that is the exact explanation that Russia uses when it violates Finnish and Swedish airspace.
And neither Finland nor Sweden are at war with Russia despite it. Bullshit tactic used by fucking putin yes but act of war no.
You seem to be applying a pretty strict definition to what is actually an arbitrary term. An act of war can be anything that any nation wants to call an act of war.
So I guess we should probably just use some of the countries involved in the real life case we are talking about.
Does anyone consider violation of airspace by a nations warplanes to be in-and-of-itself an act of war or at least a proactive action worthy of escalation and retaliation? Oh yeah, the United States does. And so does Russia.
Call his bluff.
You know, like you do to allies when the commander in chief isn’t a Russian asset.
What are they going to do in Canadian airspace? like… fly around?
Pretty weird behavior for an ally.
Canada might think about halting lumber and oil shipments if they are too distracted by fighter jets overhead to work. Those jets are loud and annoying. What then? Seems like trump will chicken out and walk back his childishness like he always does.
Only winner here is Putin, same as always. What a coincidence.
I will continue to post this every time someone insinuates that someone else should murder Trump/ICE Agents/ etc. Do it yourself or better yet, you can focus on protecting you and yours instead.
In the US we have the Second Amendment. The fascists have been the ones screaming and yelling about the Second Amendment, but the truth is that all Americans have the right.
Owning a gun isn’t enough. Driving to Cabela’s and picking up a vermin killing .22 is not enough. You should buy a proper rifle, a pistol, and a knife or baton. (Bonus points for a shotgun) Then you need to train with said rifle, pistol and knife/baton. Go to a range and shoot. Look for local self defense/hand to hand combat with a weapon classes and train.
I am not advocating for violence…far from it. But I am advocating for knowledge because owning a weapon and not knowing how to use it is a recipe for disaster.
PS: If you can afford it, buy suppressors or active hearing protection. Especially for your rifles. Suppression for the common citizen isn’t about stealth like in the movies, it is about protecting your hearing. Guns are LOUD. Much louder than you expect. At the bare minimum, make sure you have quality active hearing protection.
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Lol, F-35s are in maintenance most of the time, we can use our new made in Canada gripens to patrol the sky while the F-35s wait for parts on the u reliable piece of shit.
The future is electronics warfare packages, not stealth.
The future is electronics warfare packages, not stealth.
The fact that you’re talking about the F35 and you said this kinda suggests that you don’t actually know much about the F35.
