You gonna actually lay out your case for that? Because I’m pretty sure you’re wrong, but it’s hard to say when you haven’t even offered any justification for your argument.
The regime has made overt commentary and motions of hostility toward Canada, and has vociferously stated a desire for lebensraum in Canada, Greenland, and other neighboring countries. When they talk about neo-Monroe doctrine, they’re really talking about neocolonialism. They’re “joking” until they’re not. It’s an established pattern and practice with the regime, now as well as in the first stint they had.
Hi there, you seem to be confused about how laws work in Canada. See, unlike our neighbours to the south, we have this crazy notion that civil rights do in fact matter.
That includes the right not to be subject to investigation without reasonable suspicion of a crime. There being no evidence that someone has not committed a crime is not a reasonable basis for an investigation.
Do you drive? Prove you haven’t ever committed vehicular manslaughter. Do you own bolt cutters? Prove you’ve never used them to break and enter. Do you have alcohol or weed in your home? Prove you’ve never sold them to minors. Have you ever been near a school? Prove you’re not a child rapist.
See how this works? Saying that someone was in a situation where they could have a comitted a crime cannot be the basis for a criminal investigation, or else we’d be investigating everyone, all the time.
The Alberta separatists are pathetic scumbags, but they’re not automatically criminals just because you don’t like what they did. That’s toddler logic.
I think you’re mistaking “investigation” with “prosecution” or something else. The cops can investigate literally anyone. You can hire a PI to investigate anyone.
There are limits however on what investigative actions can be legally taken by cops based on the evidence they have. Even with no evidence, they can still do things like interview people who know the POI, even follow them around in public. They can’t, for example, detain them and beat a confession out of them, or search their house willy nilly.
It’s unlikely that these dorks are leakng military info, but they should definitely be investigated. I think the real question is whether the US are using “force or violence”, which would fall under C) and A)
46 (1) Every one commits high treason who, in Canada,
(a) kills or attempts to kill Her Majesty, or does her any bodily harm tending to death or destruction, maims or wounds her, or imprisons or restrains her;
(b) levies war against Canada or does any act preparatory thereto; or
(c) assists an enemy at war with Canada, or any armed forces against whom Canadian Forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between Canada and the country whose forces they are.
Just like our government used those hate speech laws to punish musk, a canadian citizen, for doing nazi salutes on international media / supporting fascist ideals openly?
I dont see it happening. Many of our laws are just for poor people / commoners.
Hate speech is a criminal offense in Canada. Any other citizen doing a nazi salute and promoting white supremacy risks literal jail time. Hell, the guy subsequently pushed out a kiddy-porn grok tool, and still isn’t getting held accountable.
One of the functions of the courts is to basically “make examples” of public/blatant violations of the laws, to re-enforce the importance of obeying the laws to other would be criminals.
Musk lands in Canada, as he frequently does, you throw him in Jail. Max sentence is two years, so have him serve the max – I mean, the scale of his actions certainly would warrant a proper display of punishment. We threw Meng Wanzhou in jail based on the descriptions she provided for doing Wire Transfers, held her in Canada for years before she was released. So, that’s what the government’d do if Musk wasn’t a billionaire/US figure immune to all laws in Canada. Laws that only really apply to the poors.
Canada isn’t beyond going after people for crimes committed in other countries. Just look at how well we’ve repatriated and ‘forgiven’ the atrocities of people who went and joined ISIS. Or that swirly-face guy who did the whole child-sex-tourism thing in Thailand, but still got nabbed in Canada for it. Or Meng, who’s wires were sent outside of Canada, and yet she was still detained, by Canada, for years, because the US said so.
Saying “Nothing can be done!” is not the attitude Canada has taken in other scenarios. Even when the person is basically let go after a while (Meng), they still took some action. Here, Canada just shrugs, and lets the US give money to Alberta separatists, while they’re also running disinformation style campaigns and influence campaigns focused on disrupting and heightening instability in Canada: they control most of Canadas major media afterall. Musk is basically immune to accountability for his actions due to his relationship with the US administration and his giant pile of money: things that frankly, should make him a foreign agent of some sort, with far more scrutiny to his actions within Canada/impacting Canada. He practically runs an anti-Canada influence machine in X, and is openly manipulating things like Wikipedia (grokepedia) to align to the US Administrations distorted/fabricated world view. His status is similar to how Trump is immune to anything in the Epstein files, realistically, and he’s only fussed about it cause he’s a narcissist worrying about his legacy – not because he’s worried he’ll face any direct accountability for his past actions.
I agree but our criminal code is specific in that nobody can be convicted of an offense committed outside of Canada unless specifically stipulated by the law.
So like we would have to amend our laws in the legislature to specifically allow for criminal convictions of the things Musk did.
If it’s treason, then lock them up.
I agree… but the person calling them traitors does not have the authority to do that.
I believe it has to come from the gov of Alberta (traitors all as well) or the Federal gov.
I do expect some form of movement on this, strategically this is too dangerous to go unpunished
Criminal charges are federal in Canada, but charges are laid by crown prosecutors in that particular province (never by the government itself)
I do actually think 2b-e are all applicable here.
You gonna actually lay out your case for that? Because I’m pretty sure you’re wrong, but it’s hard to say when you haven’t even offered any justification for your argument.
The regime has made overt commentary and motions of hostility toward Canada, and has vociferously stated a desire for lebensraum in Canada, Greenland, and other neighboring countries. When they talk about neo-Monroe doctrine, they’re really talking about neocolonialism. They’re “joking” until they’re not. It’s an established pattern and practice with the regime, now as well as in the first stint they had.
This is why a full investigation must take place. Until then we have no proof that the meeting did not violate paragraph b.
Paragraph B is the kicker, because we do know they met with a foreign power that has stated it wants to expand into Canada.
Hi there, you seem to be confused about how laws work in Canada. See, unlike our neighbours to the south, we have this crazy notion that civil rights do in fact matter.
That includes the right not to be subject to investigation without reasonable suspicion of a crime. There being no evidence that someone has not committed a crime is not a reasonable basis for an investigation.
Do you drive? Prove you haven’t ever committed vehicular manslaughter. Do you own bolt cutters? Prove you’ve never used them to break and enter. Do you have alcohol or weed in your home? Prove you’ve never sold them to minors. Have you ever been near a school? Prove you’re not a child rapist.
See how this works? Saying that someone was in a situation where they could have a comitted a crime cannot be the basis for a criminal investigation, or else we’d be investigating everyone, all the time.
The Alberta separatists are pathetic scumbags, but they’re not automatically criminals just because you don’t like what they did. That’s toddler logic.
I think you’re mistaking “investigation” with “prosecution” or something else. The cops can investigate literally anyone. You can hire a PI to investigate anyone.
There are limits however on what investigative actions can be legally taken by cops based on the evidence they have. Even with no evidence, they can still do things like interview people who know the POI, even follow them around in public. They can’t, for example, detain them and beat a confession out of them, or search their house willy nilly.
It’s unlikely that these dorks are leakng military info, but they should definitely be investigated. I think the real question is whether the US are using “force or violence”, which would fall under C) and A)
I’m getting real sick of people ignoring 3/4 of the shit they’re supposedly quoting.
For some reason a lot of y’all wanna bend over backwards to defend this shit.
🙄
Pray tell, what would these dumbfucks even know about science enough that it’s worth leaking?
Bent so far back you’re crowning.
“anything I don’t like is treason”
© and (d) are circular, unless “high treason” is defined elsewhere. According to this, high treason is treason on its own.
High treason is defined in the previous section;
High treason
Just like our government used those hate speech laws to punish musk, a canadian citizen, for doing nazi salutes on international media / supporting fascist ideals openly?
I dont see it happening. Many of our laws are just for poor people / commoners.
I get the sentiment but I fail to see what the Judicial Branch of Canada could have done to Musk about that.
Hate speech is a criminal offense in Canada. Any other citizen doing a nazi salute and promoting white supremacy risks literal jail time. Hell, the guy subsequently pushed out a kiddy-porn grok tool, and still isn’t getting held accountable.
One of the functions of the courts is to basically “make examples” of public/blatant violations of the laws, to re-enforce the importance of obeying the laws to other would be criminals.
Musk lands in Canada, as he frequently does, you throw him in Jail. Max sentence is two years, so have him serve the max – I mean, the scale of his actions certainly would warrant a proper display of punishment. We threw Meng Wanzhou in jail based on the descriptions she provided for doing Wire Transfers, held her in Canada for years before she was released. So, that’s what the government’d do if Musk wasn’t a billionaire/US figure immune to all laws in Canada. Laws that only really apply to the poors.
The operative words here are “in Canada.”
Musk hasn’t done anything in Canada that would meet the definition of hate speech.
Canada isn’t beyond going after people for crimes committed in other countries. Just look at how well we’ve repatriated and ‘forgiven’ the atrocities of people who went and joined ISIS. Or that swirly-face guy who did the whole child-sex-tourism thing in Thailand, but still got nabbed in Canada for it. Or Meng, who’s wires were sent outside of Canada, and yet she was still detained, by Canada, for years, because the US said so.
Saying “Nothing can be done!” is not the attitude Canada has taken in other scenarios. Even when the person is basically let go after a while (Meng), they still took some action. Here, Canada just shrugs, and lets the US give money to Alberta separatists, while they’re also running disinformation style campaigns and influence campaigns focused on disrupting and heightening instability in Canada: they control most of Canadas major media afterall. Musk is basically immune to accountability for his actions due to his relationship with the US administration and his giant pile of money: things that frankly, should make him a foreign agent of some sort, with far more scrutiny to his actions within Canada/impacting Canada. He practically runs an anti-Canada influence machine in X, and is openly manipulating things like Wikipedia (grokepedia) to align to the US Administrations distorted/fabricated world view. His status is similar to how Trump is immune to anything in the Epstein files, realistically, and he’s only fussed about it cause he’s a narcissist worrying about his legacy – not because he’s worried he’ll face any direct accountability for his past actions.
I agree but our criminal code is specific in that nobody can be convicted of an offense committed outside of Canada unless specifically stipulated by the law.
So like we would have to amend our laws in the legislature to specifically allow for criminal convictions of the things Musk did.