I’m asking for public policy ideas here. A lot of countries are enacting age verification now. But of course this is a privacy nightmare and is ripe for abuse. At the same time though, I also understand why people are concerned with how kids are using social media. These products are designed to be addictive and are known to cause body image issues and so forth. So what’s the middle ground? How can we protect kids from the harms of social media in a way that respects everyone’s privacy?
Everyone here is going to say: “Be a parent.”
It’s a meaningless platitude.
That is not a policy idea and sounds a whole lot to me like “just recycle, bro” and we can readily look around us and see that expecting individuals to act responsibly is shitty public policy.
I understand the hysteria over providing ID’s, but understand, the social media companies already have all of your information as a user. You’re sacrificing your privacy and that of your kids by using them to begin with. Providing and ID is just a formality, and an easy one, because it’s something that (obviously) only an adult can provide.
This game is only one by not playing to begin with and disallowing any electronics in the home.
Sorry, why are you on Lemmy then if you’re non-plussed about handing over your ID? Social media sites (that I use) do not have a picture of me, or my acrtual identity.
I think that answer is obvious.
Also I think it’s naive to think you’re not already cataloged, especially given that we recently learned definitively that Google is feeding data to the government illegally without a warrant, thanks to the FBI desperately trying to look competent by publicizing doorbell camera footage for a person that didn’t have a Google account.
If Google is doing this, every corporate social media site is doing it.
Tbh not really
Well, take a moment to think about it.
I could think of some reasons maybe, but none seem to stand out. The fact that big-tech is going to increasingly flagrantly violate our privacy as a precondition to use the services is an increasingly major one.
Ask yourself why you’re on Lemmy instead of Reddit, or FB, or Twitter.
That’s what I’m getting at.
Comparing one to the other is illogical, because even though they possess similar functions, they are completely different.
There is no algorithm here, no ads, no tracking. There are actual enforced rules and human moderation. I am not having my feed tracked to sell me bullshit, and no one needs my ID.
That’s my I am here and not there.
However, the big tech companies are not asking your permission to spy on you, as has been proved by the Guthrie case.
Privacy is a big reason.
How do you even expect a decentralised service run by hobbyists to even implement age-ID in the first place?
Yes, but again, they do not have my face or my actual ID. They can make a profile from my posts and it would resemble what I believe but in theory, after long posting on Lemmy or Piefed - they could implement tools to do the same thing.
Yes, they do.
If you haven’t given it, your neighbor’s doorbell has. If you’ve used a search engine, you’ve been recorded. If you have a smart phone, they know absolutely everything about you.
You do not have privacy anymore if you are using electronics equipped with a wireless connection.
It’s silly to pretend that an ID requirement is endangering your privacy when you live in a world where you are constantly tracked.
But the bigger evil is the effect social media has on developing young brains, so I’m fine with an ID requirement as a means of locking children out, until a better solution presents itself
If they already have our information, then they don’t need our ID for any legitimate purpose.
The government has all your info but you still have to show ID to vote.
Requiring an ID is a useful way to regulate many things, like ensuring children cannot access social media.
Yes, show, not give. There is a huge difference. In person, you can show them and know that they don’t have a copy squirrelled away somewhere. With digital, you have to give them a copy, and you have no real way of knowing if they kept a copy or not. And given how untrustworthy these corpos are, they almost certainly did.