• village604@adultswim.fan
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      2 days ago

      I mean, as far as murdering civilians goes it is a both sides thing. Basically every US president is guilty of war crimes against civilians. Trump is just bragging about his.

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        23 hours ago

        EXACTLY. People in the USA need to stop thinking their country was angelic until Trump came along. It’s always been a murderous menace since before its founding. Latin America is an excellent example of this, though sadly, not the only one.

        The trend line has been clear for a long long time. That country is a cancer on the world. Patriots can get touchy about it, and they will because patriots don’t tend to be all that bright in general, but their feelings aren’t worth as much as the world’s blood.

        People in the USA need to know what their country truly stands for, and has always stood for—domination.

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        21 hours ago

        Curious about the sourcing on number 8 there. The Wikipedia article on his removal states that the US supported the results of the election and condemned his removal and the coup overall. Once Zelaya was removed, Secretary of State Clinton tried to capitalize on the situation to strengthen Homduras’ dependency on US aid. I’d say that falls in a morally gray area, but it’s a far cry from an actual US backed coup.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Honduran_coup_d'état

        NGL, I originally started looking into this infographic because basically every one of those incidents involves a Republican administration except that one.

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          19 hours ago

          basically every one of those incidents involves a Republican administration

          Using military money that was allocated in the preceding year by democrats.

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            19 hours ago

            Okay? The problems highlighted in the infographic have nothing to do with how much military spending was approved, and everything to do with when and more specifically, where it was used.

            Would you be mad at republicans for approving more social service funding if Biden spent that money giving bailouts to corporations for “daycare”? (Purely hypothetical situation here)

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              15 hours ago

              So what are you saying? That American Imperialism is not the fault of America, but the fault of Republicans? Quite a convenient way to absolve yourself.

              My main point is that American Imperialism, especially in Latin America, enjoys bipartisan support.

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                15 hours ago

                My main point is that historically, there has been one particular political group in the United States which consistently does the worst shit possible to the rest of the world. Not saying they’ve never done anything good, not saying that they are the only group that has ever done bad shit. I am saying that it’s a pretty big stretch to say “both sides are the same, just look at this map” and then have 11 of the 12 listed examples being perpetrated by one group, and the 1 example by the other group is disinfo/misinfo. I think it brings serious question into the validity of saying “both sides are the same” and the validity of the document overall.

                Also, map was hard to read at a glance, when I said #8, I was referring to Honduras. I thought the numbers were a key of some sort, not a count of military interventions.

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          23 hours ago

          If only biden & his pick for doj and his immunity from prosecution as president and his knowledge of politics from 3+decades of experience had enabled him to prosecute and jail the child fucker ring.

          If only he knew of the american media beast that lives in Washington that somehow he was not able to evade or play like an instrument given his 3+ decades of experience and lived world and access to any and all of the best marketers and strategic advisors by don’t of his being president and a household name.

          Were these things different, perhaps the one side could produce effects to demonstrate in the minds of even the least news-watching simpleton thst they are, indeed, different. Alas.