Average U.S. retail gasoline prices crossed $3 a gallon for the first time since November on Monday as the conflict in the Middle East ​worsened, setting up a key test of public approval of President Donald ‌Trump’s decision to attack Iran, analysts said.

Tehran’s retaliation in response to U.S. and Israeli strikes has disrupted global oil supply, as it hit production facilities in neighboring countries and ships in the Strait of Hormuz, ​a key global trade route. Oil prices have surged, with Brent crude rising ​more than 5% to nearly $77 per barrel, and fuel prices moving ⁠up in tandem with the feedstock costs.

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    What’s always funny is that pipeline interruptions don’t really affect supply for many weeks. This is just panic pricing.

    And as always, prices go up instantly but takes months to drop back down.

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      It was always more expensive in California. I don’t know why but when I visited the US, I was quite shocked to see how big the price difference was between California and literally all the other states I’ve been to

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        im on the damn east coast! near a bunch of ports. Dunno why its so high in Maine it might just be state taxes kicking ass.

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            Yea but here’s the thing I spend about $400 a year on gas and $2,200 a year on property tax. and my state give me money back for being poor so +$1300. You guys have good jobs tho so idk it’s a toss up.

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                It’s the number one reason I can’t move to Texas. That property tax is insane, ya’ll think you’re California or something. Like you got public services or something.

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    Price of fuel in the USA always shocks me. Closer to $8 a gallon here in the uk.

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    That’s $1.08/L CAD. Think about that Canadians. They are complaining because their gas went up to $1.08/L 😆😅. Fuckers have no idea how good they have it. And kinda puts a spotlight on how things are here in Canada…4th largest oil producer in the world 🙄

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      Yeah, but you guys pay more because it includes taxes which go towards things like health care. We pay way more when you take into account what we don’t get.

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          In theory, but the gas tax isn’t anywhere near high enough for that so most of the money ends up coming from property taxes which ironically also aren’t high enough in the suburbs so they siphon money away from citities to pay for it

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    Really hoping it gets up to $10 a barrel. Fuck all the SUV owners and the AI companies.

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      Uh, do you realize that with costs like that EVERYTHING will get more expensive? Every single good you buy anywhere has fuel costs baked into their price.

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        Yup. But its not a flat increase, some things travel further others more efficiently. Like where I live it might affect banana costs more than apple costs.

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      Hmm.

      I own a Hyundai Sonata which is a sedan, not an SUV. The gas tank capacity is 18 gallons.

      I also own a Subaru Forester, which is an SUV and has a gas tank capacity of approximately 17 gallons.

      Difference is roughly the same between a sedan and an SUV.

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          A Forester is still an SUV. It’s classified as an SUV whether you like it or not. A crossover SUV is still an SUV. It’s a subclass, but falls under the umbrella.

          Sonata: 25/37 Forester: 26/33

          They are fairly close in stats.

          Look, I get what you’re saying. The whole thing is these vehicles are a range and people are driving what they can. To just give a blanket “fuck these people for this broad category” seems weird to me.

          I am merely pointing out nuances and I don’t understand what is triggering some people to turn into a hostile jack ass for pointing something out. 🤷‍♂️

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            The classification doesn’t determine what it actually is. It is an arbitrary label.

            SUVs and crossovers are functionally different. I don’t really give a shit that someone decided to group them together.

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              Well, I disagree with your argument about SUV classification so we will agree to disagree here.

              I think my issue is that SUV efficiency is a range just like sedans are a range, trucks, vans, compacts, etc. So at what point is it really fuck this type of car versus fuck vehicles that have this specific fuel efficiency.

              My entire point was the person I replied to said fuck SUVs and AI. Hey, I get it but SUVs aren’t the problem, vehicle efficiency is and many classes cross over into that “fuck this” point. That’s really the crux of my first reply here was that it was a broad stroke and if you’re going to say fuck something because of its contribution then maybe don’t be so broad and targeted?

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                Well, I disagree with your argument about SUV classification so we will agree to disagree here.

                That is certainly your prerogative; many people have chosen to group them together. But it does mean that the “sedan vs SUV” MPG comparison is obfuscated by a faulty premise.

                I’m curious though, what in your mind makes a Forester an SUV rather than a wagon? Disregard any external labels that others have applied. How you would classify the vehicle.

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                  I’m curious though, what in your mind makes a Forester an SUV rather than a wagon? Disregard any external labels that others have applied. How you would classify the vehicle.

                  Great question. I’ve never really thought about that, but I’d probably say size and design (boxy-ish looks). Beyond that, categorization by the companies making and rating them is what I go by.

                  But it does mean that the “sedan vs SUV” MPG comparison is obfuscated by a faulty premise.

                  What faulty premise? Do mid size and large sedans have fuel efficiency and vehicle length that cross into the small and mid size SUV range? I compared them because the original comment was essentially “I hope the high gas really fucks SUVs”. Why SUVs specifically? Which SUVs? No mention of large sedans, trucks, vans, etc.

                  My comparison was to point out that a singular broad criticism was sort of a weird idea when there are so many other factors.

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          I see. So I’m an asshole for pointing out nuances?

          Average size for American sedans is 12-18 gallons. That’s a range, but I do loooooove that you presented the low end as fact. Claps for you!

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            You’re disingenuously equating your full-size sedan and your crossover’s gas tanks and using that single piece of anecdotal (and completely unrelated) evidence to imply that the drivers of sedans are going to suffer just as much as the dumbasses that still drive gas guzzlers.

            Subcompact and compact cars generally have 8-10 gallon tanks, midsize cars generally have 10-14 gallon tanks, full size cars generally have 14-18 gallon tanks. The middle of that range is actually 13 gallons, so I was off a gallon. My b.

            I like how you limited your data specifically to American sedans to fit your narrative though, despite neither of your cars being American, and despite American sedans not being even close to the top choice for sedan drivers, not even in America.

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              I’m saying person I responded to made a blanket statement about people owning a broad category of car. I pointed out that there are nuances and taking on particular broad group isn’t probably the right take. Using broad strokes is bad.

              I’m not really sure what your stake is in being angry with your replies. If that isn’t your intent, that’s how it is coming across.

              I used American SUVs because I was trying to talk about American buyers since this seemed to be aimed at the USA with the mention of gallons (yeah, other counties use it, but come on…we know it was meant towards the USA). Yes, I misused what I was trying to say.

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        A Suburban has a 30 gallon tank, a Ford F-150 has an almost 40 gallon tank. They ain’t talking about your crossover.

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    $3.39 for 87 octane this morning in lower piedmont of Georgia. Should have topped off leaving work yesterday when it was still $2.78.

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    Oh, bohoo. Those American gas guzzler riders would probably have a nervous breakdown at a European fuel station.

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      We have too many damned US-style “trucks” here in Australia now.

      Our fuel prices have just crossed the equivalent of $5 USD/gallon ($1.90 AUD/litre); it will be interesting watching people squirm at the petrol pumps when the price inevitably increases another 50% or so.

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        We are currently at €1.85-1.90 here. The Dutch got it worse, IIRC they are at €2.60+ per litre.

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      I still have some trump ones in a drawer somewhere. Pissed off half the damn town last time I broke them out. Though they never knew who did it!

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    Nice bit of sunshine today where I live, so I’ll charge our EV with surplus power from our solar panels. 🤣

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    This is one of Iran’s main goals, IMO. They need to get the US to back down through domestic and diplomatic pressure. This war is already unpopular, but gas prices increasing will affect people who otherwise don’t give a shit about the morality of the situation, which is unfortunately quite a lot of US Americans. Hitting the wallet of the MAGA voter is fundamental.

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      I watched some local news yesterday where they covered the various explosions across the Middle East. They discussed the activity, the damage, the losses of life… then they pivoted to a local news reflection on what this all would mean for us at the gas pumps. “Gas prices expected to rise” as the chief takeaway for us to ponder how it affects us, immediately after discussions of hundreds of human beings being literally exploded. Makes me sick.

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      the US mostly self sufficient with oil, big oil wants this war so they can make extra stupid money gaming the oil futures markets.

      once you’ve reached end-stage capitalism, where there’s no real room for organic growth, all that’s left is rent-seeking and smashing windows to “increase liquidity” in the markets (from sane/smart actors who have to hedge, even if they do know it’s all a game). the ones who don’t see the full picture or are over-leveraged go out of business and act as distressed assets to be bought out by established players.

      this is what republicans do every time they’re in power, they’re abject disaster capitalists, proud in their cruelty.

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        the US mostly self sufficient with oil

        Yes, but they aren’t completely isolated from changes in wholesale oil prices, if the price of oil goes up, the shale oil producers in the US are going to increase their prices too because they can, no?

        I agree with everything else you wrote!